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The hype surrounding those two massive releases - Harry Potter and Lord of The Rings - is beginning to get to me, and not because of all the loot J K Rowling and Christopher Tolkein will have rolling in. It's because the quality of the books is getting lost in all this. People are going to go and watch Lord of The Rings and see a different story than Tolkein wrote. They've changed it, and the biggest difference is that Arwen will not be mooning about Rivendell, worrying about Aragorn like she should be. No, those film producers have gone all feminist and made Arwen a warrior-princess, running amok with a band of elven archers. Yep, sounds good to me, guys, but have you forgotten, you are basing this on a BOOK? This means your script is already there for you. OK, so some padding may have to be cut, but you can't significantly change it. It just isn't the story!
Sigh, these won't matter to the little kids. They'll trot into the cinema and gasp at pretty elfs and dwarfs. They'll hiss at orcs, boo at the Dark Riders and cheer Frodo. But they won't have the slightest what it all means. If Frodo or Bilbo refer to Smaug, or Dale, none of the little kids holding their Lord of The Rings popcorn will understand. But that won't matter, there's a shiny ring to look at! Oooo...
The same, gladly, isn't true of Harry Potter. Most of the kids have read the books, and this is why the Harry Potter phenomona is so widely regarded - it has got kids reading again. My parents are avid readers, and they got me reading at an early age. I read Lord of the Rings for the first time aged 9, and I'm grateful to my parents for that. But these kids aren't expanding their reading reportorie. I actually saw a kid ask for the latest Harry Potter book at Waterstones the other day when I was queuing with Terry Pratchett's latest offering in my hands. The assistant said no, and kindly refered to some remarkably similiar titles, with similiar appeal. Brian Jacques, for example. His Redwall sagas were one of my favourites from 10-12. This kids looked about old enough for that. But the kid looked angry at the assistant and walked from the shop. No doubt McDonalds was tempting him from round the corner. I was going to say something, but then I remembered I'm 16 and therefore shouldn't be seen in a bookshop, so I dutifully ducked my head and paid for my book, then stashed it in a O'Neill bag and ran from the store ;-)
Ok, so at least kids are reading. I love Harry Potter too, which isn't child-like. It's a great series, and deserves the sucess it has. Good for light-reading, so to speak, when I'm tired and my Terry Goodkind novel looks a bit too long-winded. This has made it possible for a movie to be made, and, thankfully, JK Rowling has had her hands tightly on the reins from the word go. Speilburg wanted to direct this movie, and I've heard rumours he wanted Haley Joel Osment as Harry Potter. That oh-so American kid from Sixth Sense and A.I? No thanks! JK has seen to it that the cast is British - John Cleese, Richard Harris, Maggie Smith and so on. Well done, her. The movie won't have been changed at all! I wonder what would have happened had JRR Tolkein still been alive now? No corruption of Arwen's character, I bet!
So, my point is : The literature is going to be lost. A stream of marketing has been unleased. I went babysitting the other day, and they had the TV turned off. What? Then I noticed "Mystery at Hogwarts" boardgame on the floor. Ah, I thought, and got my book out. Then they said I could be the green hat, and have Filch's card. Well, thats an offer no one can refuse ;-). Actually, it was quite fun. Quasi-Cleudo, sort of. I've seen Harry Potter everything, including perscription Harry Potter glasses. Oh, please. Kids no longer swop Pokemon cards, they swop Harry for Hermione, and hope not to get Snape in the next packet. Lord of the Rings hysteria hasn't really hit yet, but I bet it will.
If only they movie clerks could ask " Are you 12" AND "Have you read the book?", then entry for Lord of the Rings would be great. I'd be surrounded by people grumbling about how Arwen isn't moping. Super.
So, what do you fellow movie fans think? Dicuss, please.Maybe I'm not old before my time? Doubt it.
Cheers, Stryke.
Sigh, these won't matter to the little kids. They'll trot into the cinema and gasp at pretty elfs and dwarfs. They'll hiss at orcs, boo at the Dark Riders and cheer Frodo. But they won't have the slightest what it all means. If Frodo or Bilbo refer to Smaug, or Dale, none of the little kids holding their Lord of The Rings popcorn will understand. But that won't matter, there's a shiny ring to look at! Oooo...
The same, gladly, isn't true of Harry Potter. Most of the kids have read the books, and this is why the Harry Potter phenomona is so widely regarded - it has got kids reading again. My parents are avid readers, and they got me reading at an early age. I read Lord of the Rings for the first time aged 9, and I'm grateful to my parents for that. But these kids aren't expanding their reading reportorie. I actually saw a kid ask for the latest Harry Potter book at Waterstones the other day when I was queuing with Terry Pratchett's latest offering in my hands. The assistant said no, and kindly refered to some remarkably similiar titles, with similiar appeal. Brian Jacques, for example. His Redwall sagas were one of my favourites from 10-12. This kids looked about old enough for that. But the kid looked angry at the assistant and walked from the shop. No doubt McDonalds was tempting him from round the corner. I was going to say something, but then I remembered I'm 16 and therefore shouldn't be seen in a bookshop, so I dutifully ducked my head and paid for my book, then stashed it in a O'Neill bag and ran from the store ;-)
Ok, so at least kids are reading. I love Harry Potter too, which isn't child-like. It's a great series, and deserves the sucess it has. Good for light-reading, so to speak, when I'm tired and my Terry Goodkind novel looks a bit too long-winded. This has made it possible for a movie to be made, and, thankfully, JK Rowling has had her hands tightly on the reins from the word go. Speilburg wanted to direct this movie, and I've heard rumours he wanted Haley Joel Osment as Harry Potter. That oh-so American kid from Sixth Sense and A.I? No thanks! JK has seen to it that the cast is British - John Cleese, Richard Harris, Maggie Smith and so on. Well done, her. The movie won't have been changed at all! I wonder what would have happened had JRR Tolkein still been alive now? No corruption of Arwen's character, I bet!
So, my point is : The literature is going to be lost. A stream of marketing has been unleased. I went babysitting the other day, and they had the TV turned off. What? Then I noticed "Mystery at Hogwarts" boardgame on the floor. Ah, I thought, and got my book out. Then they said I could be the green hat, and have Filch's card. Well, thats an offer no one can refuse ;-). Actually, it was quite fun. Quasi-Cleudo, sort of. I've seen Harry Potter everything, including perscription Harry Potter glasses. Oh, please. Kids no longer swop Pokemon cards, they swop Harry for Hermione, and hope not to get Snape in the next packet. Lord of the Rings hysteria hasn't really hit yet, but I bet it will.
If only they movie clerks could ask " Are you 12" AND "Have you read the book?", then entry for Lord of the Rings would be great. I'd be surrounded by people grumbling about how Arwen isn't moping. Super.
So, what do you fellow movie fans think? Dicuss, please.Maybe I'm not old before my time? Doubt it.
Cheers, Stryke.
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Damn. I bow to Wolfhound and confess my ignorance of the LotR film, and beg you to accept my apologies. Let's gave a LotR little trivia shoot, shall we? For the crack of it, so to speak.
Let's start off easy. Where does Legolas come from?
Let's start off easy. Where does Legolas come from?
And I learnt something the other day, which I never knew!
The Harry Potter character is Irish, not British!, J.K Rowling said herself.
The Harry Potter character is Irish, not British!, J.K Rowling said herself.
Stryke wrote:
> The hype surrounding those two massive releases - Harry Potter and Lord of The
> Rings - is beginning to get to me, and not because of all the loot J K Rowling
> and Christopher Tolkein will have rolling in.
Nope, Christopher sold the rights a good bit now to 'Saul Zaents'(I hope I have that right) some entertainment group. So now the Tolkien family have no rights to the books, characters, names etc..
As for the changing of the Film, they could have left it the way it was in the book!
Now we see Aragorn attacking Ringwraiths on top of Weathertop and even setting them on fire,....That didn't happpen, he only used the fire to ward them off!
And as for weather top, since when did it become an areaa where Sam, Frodo and Aragorn camped out?, plus it was supposed to be very open, not with a little building on top.
Plus Frodo rode across the stream! not Arwen Carrying him!!.
And since when did Aragorn give the Hobbits their Swords too?? But yet that happens in the Film as well! Geez!!
What happened to sticking to the book, that was promised?
> The hype surrounding those two massive releases - Harry Potter and Lord of The
> Rings - is beginning to get to me, and not because of all the loot J K Rowling
> and Christopher Tolkein will have rolling in.
Nope, Christopher sold the rights a good bit now to 'Saul Zaents'(I hope I have that right) some entertainment group. So now the Tolkien family have no rights to the books, characters, names etc..
As for the changing of the Film, they could have left it the way it was in the book!
Now we see Aragorn attacking Ringwraiths on top of Weathertop and even setting them on fire,....That didn't happpen, he only used the fire to ward them off!
And as for weather top, since when did it become an areaa where Sam, Frodo and Aragorn camped out?, plus it was supposed to be very open, not with a little building on top.
Plus Frodo rode across the stream! not Arwen Carrying him!!.
And since when did Aragorn give the Hobbits their Swords too?? But yet that happens in the Film as well! Geez!!
What happened to sticking to the book, that was promised?
Now that is being funny, Tarrantman. You humour has defeated me. Have you seen YH's humourous e-mail in FOG Chat, bout trains? Now that is funny.
Tell yourself what you need to Captain Stryke, but I know I am a funny man!
Listen to my knock knock joke and tremble....
"Knock Knock
(who's there?)
Dorris the interupting cow!
(Dorris the interu.......)
MOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"
Actually that one doesn't really work in text.....
*Tarrantman heads back to the drawing board, where he draws pictures of happy apples*
Listen to my knock knock joke and tremble....
"Knock Knock
(who's there?)
Dorris the interupting cow!
(Dorris the interu.......)
MOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"
Actually that one doesn't really work in text.....
*Tarrantman heads back to the drawing board, where he draws pictures of happy apples*
I am the Tarrant wrote:
> He read one of my post and laughed like a crazy person with a tennis ball
He
> read one of your posts and tutted at your futile attempts to be my equal, it
> wasn't even funny
Lol. You are inequal to me in every way, Tarrantman. Kid Rock is a WWF junkie, and we know what things they like...
;-)
> He read one of my post and laughed like a crazy person with a tennis ball
He
> read one of your posts and tutted at your futile attempts to be my equal, it
> wasn't even funny
Lol. You are inequal to me in every way, Tarrantman. Kid Rock is a WWF junkie, and we know what things they like...
;-)
I am the Tarrant wrote:
> Best not mention the bit were Kahlan wins "miss world" and Zedd
> develops a helpful type of anti-freeze from his own beard.
How did Kid Rock ever think you were funnier than me? ;-)
> Best not mention the bit were Kahlan wins "miss world" and Zedd
> develops a helpful type of anti-freeze from his own beard.
How did Kid Rock ever think you were funnier than me? ;-)
Probably best, yeah.
Or the bit where Richard admits he's actually a fish.
Or the bit where Richard admits he's actually a fish.
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