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Your reputation proceeds you Mr Playstation2.
"The sequel station" is a name I've often heard given to the Playstation2, but is this a bad thing, and does it indeed deserve it?
Let's look at SRs top ten games:
GRAND THEFT AUTO 3
TIME CRISIS 2 + OFFICIAL G-CON 2 LIGHT GUN
RESIDENT EVIL: CODE VERONICA X
THIS IS FOOTBALL 2002
GRAN TURISMO 3 A-SPEC
RED FACTION
WWF SMACKDOWN 3 JUST BRING IT!
SPY HUNTER
DAVE MIRRA FREESTYLE BMX 2
PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER
Oh dear, it's not looking good, it it? 8 of those are sequels, and one of the others is a re-hash of an old arcade game, so that leaves 1 wholly original game.
But let's look at the list more closely:
Grand Theft Auto 3:- Huge developmnt on previous games in the series, the game is much more open, and there's a whole host of extra mischief you can get yourself into!
Time Crisis 2:- I don't know a great deal about this one, but hey, it comes with a gun! Does a PSX gun work with the PS2? Was there a PSX gun? I don't even remember anymore!
RE: Code Veronica:- Not only is it a sequel, but also a port from the Dreamcast. That said the PSX RE games couldn't touch CV, so it's about time that Sony fans got to play it!
This Is Football 2002:- It's a football game, they all get an annual update!
Gran Turismo 3:- How much does this move the series on from GT2? Not really a great deal, it's just been given a huge graphical face-lift (and a very pretty one it is too). Then again it was never intended to be a sequel liek this, merely a PS2 update of GT2, that's why it was going to be called GT2000.
Red Faction:- To my knowledge this is an original. (There was no Amber Faction, was there?)
WWF Smackdown 3:- Every console is guilty of having a host of wrestling games, we can't cruxify the PS2 becasue of it, especially as it's been out a year, and this is the first one. Like football, it has to be updated, to keep all of the latest 'stars' in there.
Spy Hunter:- I haven't seen any shots of this game, but anything other than a top down, 2D car, avoiding patches of oil will shock me!
Dave Mirra BMX 2:- Extreme sports games are all the range, we're already waiting for Tony Hawks 3, do they offer much new? Well a little, and if you like that type of game, whats the harm in buying them?
Pro Evolution Soccer:- Again, it's football, it likes to come out annually. Besides is this the first ISS for the PS2?
So yes, there are a few sequels there, but they are sequels of games that appeared on the PSX. These sequels are real developments on what went before, especially now that developers are beginning to get the best from the PS2.
And when games sell so well, and are obviously popular, it's more often than not that the fans WANT a sequel.
I've nothing against sequels, and when Metal Gear Solid 2 and Final Fantasy 10 come out it won't mean they're any less special, in fact, Konami and Square have put even more into these games to please fans of the series, and to make sure that the continuing saga is one to look forward too.
"The sequel station" is a name I've often heard given to the Playstation2, but is this a bad thing, and does it indeed deserve it?
Let's look at SRs top ten games:
GRAND THEFT AUTO 3
TIME CRISIS 2 + OFFICIAL G-CON 2 LIGHT GUN
RESIDENT EVIL: CODE VERONICA X
THIS IS FOOTBALL 2002
GRAN TURISMO 3 A-SPEC
RED FACTION
WWF SMACKDOWN 3 JUST BRING IT!
SPY HUNTER
DAVE MIRRA FREESTYLE BMX 2
PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER
Oh dear, it's not looking good, it it? 8 of those are sequels, and one of the others is a re-hash of an old arcade game, so that leaves 1 wholly original game.
But let's look at the list more closely:
Grand Theft Auto 3:- Huge developmnt on previous games in the series, the game is much more open, and there's a whole host of extra mischief you can get yourself into!
Time Crisis 2:- I don't know a great deal about this one, but hey, it comes with a gun! Does a PSX gun work with the PS2? Was there a PSX gun? I don't even remember anymore!
RE: Code Veronica:- Not only is it a sequel, but also a port from the Dreamcast. That said the PSX RE games couldn't touch CV, so it's about time that Sony fans got to play it!
This Is Football 2002:- It's a football game, they all get an annual update!
Gran Turismo 3:- How much does this move the series on from GT2? Not really a great deal, it's just been given a huge graphical face-lift (and a very pretty one it is too). Then again it was never intended to be a sequel liek this, merely a PS2 update of GT2, that's why it was going to be called GT2000.
Red Faction:- To my knowledge this is an original. (There was no Amber Faction, was there?)
WWF Smackdown 3:- Every console is guilty of having a host of wrestling games, we can't cruxify the PS2 becasue of it, especially as it's been out a year, and this is the first one. Like football, it has to be updated, to keep all of the latest 'stars' in there.
Spy Hunter:- I haven't seen any shots of this game, but anything other than a top down, 2D car, avoiding patches of oil will shock me!
Dave Mirra BMX 2:- Extreme sports games are all the range, we're already waiting for Tony Hawks 3, do they offer much new? Well a little, and if you like that type of game, whats the harm in buying them?
Pro Evolution Soccer:- Again, it's football, it likes to come out annually. Besides is this the first ISS for the PS2?
So yes, there are a few sequels there, but they are sequels of games that appeared on the PSX. These sequels are real developments on what went before, especially now that developers are beginning to get the best from the PS2.
And when games sell so well, and are obviously popular, it's more often than not that the fans WANT a sequel.
I've nothing against sequels, and when Metal Gear Solid 2 and Final Fantasy 10 come out it won't mean they're any less special, in fact, Konami and Square have put even more into these games to please fans of the series, and to make sure that the continuing saga is one to look forward too.
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Alex Kidd wrote:
> Well I DID base it on the top 10 games - ie the games people want most.
What
> better indication could there be of what the PS2 has to offer?
You see these in the PS2's top 10 games to come/all ready out?
THIS IS FOOTBALL 2002
RED FACTION
SPY HUNTER
DAVE MIRRA FREESTYLE BMX 2
Well you clearly are not a PS2 owner then, there are many many better games coming that will clear the floor with these.
> Well I DID base it on the top 10 games - ie the games people want most.
What
> better indication could there be of what the PS2 has to offer?
You see these in the PS2's top 10 games to come/all ready out?
THIS IS FOOTBALL 2002
RED FACTION
SPY HUNTER
DAVE MIRRA FREESTYLE BMX 2
Well you clearly are not a PS2 owner then, there are many many better games coming that will clear the floor with these.
Alex Kidd wrote:
> Duh! My conclusion was that even if there were plenty of sequels, it's just
> developers giving the customers what they want, and they're all worthy sequels,
> rather than the poor re-hashes many expect from a sequel.
I take it no one
> bothered to read the content of the post, just read the title and assumed that
> this was a dig at the PS2.
Maybe next time I'll keep it to a paragraph, and
> only use words of less than 8 letters.
And to think I'd heard that this was
> the intelligent forum.
Well I'm going to check out the Nintendo forum, they
> might be capable of reading what I have to say.
just remember not tomove to fast and remember to wear bright colours they dont like any thing else
> Duh! My conclusion was that even if there were plenty of sequels, it's just
> developers giving the customers what they want, and they're all worthy sequels,
> rather than the poor re-hashes many expect from a sequel.
I take it no one
> bothered to read the content of the post, just read the title and assumed that
> this was a dig at the PS2.
Maybe next time I'll keep it to a paragraph, and
> only use words of less than 8 letters.
And to think I'd heard that this was
> the intelligent forum.
Well I'm going to check out the Nintendo forum, they
> might be capable of reading what I have to say.
just remember not tomove to fast and remember to wear bright colours they dont like any thing else
You will find that you are inccorect, i read the whole topic and know that it was not a stupid posy saying that the PS2 is crap and not origanal, you were saying that thats what the people want, and the games will be good.
But the fact is that its annoying when peopl come in here and call the PS2 un-original when there clearly is many new original games.
You said : Well I'm going to check out the Nintendo forum, they might be capable of reading what I have to say.
You do that, but make sure you look at all the evidence when posting first.
But the fact is that its annoying when peopl come in here and call the PS2 un-original when there clearly is many new original games.
You said : Well I'm going to check out the Nintendo forum, they might be capable of reading what I have to say.
You do that, but make sure you look at all the evidence when posting first.
Duh! My conclusion was that even if there were plenty of sequels, it's just developers giving the customers what they want, and they're all worthy sequels, rather than the poor re-hashes many expect from a sequel.
I take it no one bothered to read the content of the post, just read the title and assumed that this was a dig at the PS2.
Maybe next time I'll keep it to a paragraph, and only use words of less than 8 letters.
And to think I'd heard that this was the intelligent forum.
Well I'm going to check out the Nintendo forum, they might be capable of reading what I have to say.
I take it no one bothered to read the content of the post, just read the title and assumed that this was a dig at the PS2.
Maybe next time I'll keep it to a paragraph, and only use words of less than 8 letters.
And to think I'd heard that this was the intelligent forum.
Well I'm going to check out the Nintendo forum, they might be capable of reading what I have to say.
yeh good ridance
And you based your opnion on only 10 games, LOL!!
Come back when you have a decent arguement.
Come back when you have a decent arguement.
Now to me it seems all you have put in there are games that are sequal, so for your pleasure, here are some origanal games:
HERDY GERDY
JAK AND DAX
DEVIL MAY CRY
BURNOUT
PROJECT EDEN
TOP GUN
THE GETAWAY
and games that have already been our:
SSX
RED FRACTION
ONIMUSHA
STAR WARS STAR FIGHTER
EXTREME G 3
Shall i go on? There are many more i can name?
Sequel station? PAH!
HERDY GERDY
JAK AND DAX
DEVIL MAY CRY
BURNOUT
PROJECT EDEN
TOP GUN
THE GETAWAY
and games that have already been our:
SSX
RED FRACTION
ONIMUSHA
STAR WARS STAR FIGHTER
EXTREME G 3
Shall i go on? There are many more i can name?
Sequel station? PAH!
Alex Kidd wrote:
> Wow what an original reply.
Well what do you expect, this topic has been done to death. If you take it to an extreme all games are sequels or copies of earlier games, truly original games are few and far between.
The reason a lot of games are sequels and this applies to all consoles is the success of the original and therefore the anticipation for the sequel from us the gamers.
> Wow what an original reply.
Well what do you expect, this topic has been done to death. If you take it to an extreme all games are sequels or copies of earlier games, truly original games are few and far between.
The reason a lot of games are sequels and this applies to all consoles is the success of the original and therefore the anticipation for the sequel from us the gamers.
LOL i think i remember that game i had sonic and sensible soccer are the only ones i remember OH and spy Vs Spy
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