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Nintendo's share price is falling faster than a leaf in autumn. Why? The industry is pointing the finger at the poor sales of the Gamecube, citing all the surplus stock sitting on the warehouse shelves.
Nintendo are a big company, of course, but they are pretty worried about the fairly hefty fall in their company's profits by about 37 percent. Even their usual fallback on the handheld market is now being threatened by Sony's new handheld Playstation, currently being readied for release over the next year, and their Pokemon franchise, which is slowing down of late.
The news is that they want to ditch the Cube and try again, but doing this would drastically affect their company image. This was a company founded on trust, when they took back faulty NES consoles without arguement and replaced them with new ones in Japan it made their sales jump through the roof.
Whatever way they decide to stay afloat, it looks bad for the true gamers who were hoping and believing that there could be room for 3 consoles in the market. E3 showed that some companies are cutting back again on their Gamecube titles, despite earlier efforts from Nintendo to gain support from big players like EA Games. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
Nintendo are a big company, of course, but they are pretty worried about the fairly hefty fall in their company's profits by about 37 percent. Even their usual fallback on the handheld market is now being threatened by Sony's new handheld Playstation, currently being readied for release over the next year, and their Pokemon franchise, which is slowing down of late.
The news is that they want to ditch the Cube and try again, but doing this would drastically affect their company image. This was a company founded on trust, when they took back faulty NES consoles without arguement and replaced them with new ones in Japan it made their sales jump through the roof.
Whatever way they decide to stay afloat, it looks bad for the true gamers who were hoping and believing that there could be room for 3 consoles in the market. E3 showed that some companies are cutting back again on their Gamecube titles, despite earlier efforts from Nintendo to gain support from big players like EA Games. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
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A low end PC can not run Splinter Cell and even on a top end PC the Xbox looks sharper. I have seen it on the PC and the Xbox version runs smoother and the graphics are sharper.
er-no wrote:
> I said it now. Right then. And you can't deny I am wrong, for the
> insides of an XBox are the insides of a low-end PC from Comet.
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Still selling more than Gamecube though.
Face it, despite your insider knowledge from looking at games sales, nobody is touching the Gamecube.
How do I know this?
Sales figures, plummeting share prices and CEOs admitting "they got it wrong"
> I said it now. Right then. And you can't deny I am wrong, for the
> insides of an XBox are the insides of a low-end PC from Comet.
---
Still selling more than Gamecube though.
Face it, despite your insider knowledge from looking at games sales, nobody is touching the Gamecube.
How do I know this?
Sales figures, plummeting share prices and CEOs admitting "they got it wrong"
Tiltawhirl wrote:
> Updated wrote:
> How many "kids" are playing The Getaway? How many parents
> would buy their younger kids a PS2 once they saw "adult"
> games like The Getaway?
>
> Hundered of thousands, probably millions.
>
> If you seriously don't think that kiddies play crap like 'The Getaway'
> then you're even more ignorant than I originally imagined.
>
> As for the parents, half of them should be slapped.
My little brother is 12 years old, he owns the Getaway, GTA Vice City and State Of Emergancy. And no my parents do not deserve to be slapped because they arent retarded enough to think that games such as these make my lil bro go and steal cars. They make him feel cool, so let him play them, personally they have no real depth and bore me within 20 minutes but thats me.
> Updated wrote:
> How many "kids" are playing The Getaway? How many parents
> would buy their younger kids a PS2 once they saw "adult"
> games like The Getaway?
>
> Hundered of thousands, probably millions.
>
> If you seriously don't think that kiddies play crap like 'The Getaway'
> then you're even more ignorant than I originally imagined.
>
> As for the parents, half of them should be slapped.
My little brother is 12 years old, he owns the Getaway, GTA Vice City and State Of Emergancy. And no my parents do not deserve to be slapped because they arent retarded enough to think that games such as these make my lil bro go and steal cars. They make him feel cool, so let him play them, personally they have no real depth and bore me within 20 minutes but thats me.
I said it now. Right then. And you can't deny I am wrong, for the insides of an XBox are the insides of a low-end PC from Comet.
er-no wrote:
> Actually. The GC has sold less but overall I would say per console its
> software sales are more. I take this from the look into the software
> sales at GAME and also the pre-owned, with the GameCube having a large
> section, which means that software sales are high.
>
> Where as the XBox, well thats not a console. Its a mid-range PC.. no
> no, its not a low end PC.
The XBox is a mid-range PC or a low end PC??? Depends on when you say it. In another 6 months time, XBox will look even more low end, since pc performance moves on so quickly.
> Actually. The GC has sold less but overall I would say per console its
> software sales are more. I take this from the look into the software
> sales at GAME and also the pre-owned, with the GameCube having a large
> section, which means that software sales are high.
>
> Where as the XBox, well thats not a console. Its a mid-range PC.. no
> no, its not a low end PC.
The XBox is a mid-range PC or a low end PC??? Depends on when you say it. In another 6 months time, XBox will look even more low end, since pc performance moves on so quickly.
Actually. The GC has sold less but overall I would say per console its software sales are more. I take this from the look into the software sales at GAME and also the pre-owned, with the GameCube having a large section, which means that software sales are high.
Where as the XBox, well thats not a console. Its a mid-range PC.. no no, its not a low end PC.
Where as the XBox, well thats not a console. Its a mid-range PC.. no no, its not a low end PC.
Tiltawhirl wrote:
> The
> majority of PS2 owners are casual gamers who will buy maybe 4 games a
> year, when they can be bothered.
In my experience, people with PS2s buy and have far more games than GC or Xbox owners. Mainly because it is their only console, and there are a lot of games at around £20, and they have a high turnover rate of new games, because they aren't high quality games, and so they get bored of them quickly and buy a new one.
But I also know people who have PS2s with just GTA3 and Vice City and perhaps one other game.
You can't really generalise here.
> The
> majority of PS2 owners are casual gamers who will buy maybe 4 games a
> year, when they can be bothered.
In my experience, people with PS2s buy and have far more games than GC or Xbox owners. Mainly because it is their only console, and there are a lot of games at around £20, and they have a high turnover rate of new games, because they aren't high quality games, and so they get bored of them quickly and buy a new one.
But I also know people who have PS2s with just GTA3 and Vice City and perhaps one other game.
You can't really generalise here.
Updated wrote:
> There are some people who have grown up with Nintendo and stick to it
> (hard core gamers). But which type of gamer makes up the majority of
> the buying public? Box shifting is about appealing to as many people
> as possible. This is how Sony has built up it's large user base.
I realise that, but I wasn't talking about that.
Saying that Ps2 owners are genrally older than Cube owners is absoloute garbage. If anything, the younger console buyers are more likely to be put off Nintendo because they think it's imature and it doesn't have enough guns.
> There are some people who have grown up with Nintendo and stick to it
> (hard core gamers). But which type of gamer makes up the majority of
> the buying public? Box shifting is about appealing to as many people
> as possible. This is how Sony has built up it's large user base.
I realise that, but I wasn't talking about that.
Saying that Ps2 owners are genrally older than Cube owners is absoloute garbage. If anything, the younger console buyers are more likely to be put off Nintendo because they think it's imature and it doesn't have enough guns.
Tiltawhirl wrote:
> Updated wrote:
> PS2, and XBox
> appeal to older gamers (notice the increase in "adult"
> games
> recently). These people are more likely to splash the cash, and
> "impulse buy". This is where the money is made.
>
> That's bullsh*t man.
>
> The fact is that younger console buyers are drawn to the PS2 with
> promise of being 'cool' and buying mature games. I bet if you did a
> survey of all PS2 owners and all the Cube owners, there'd be just as
> high percentage if not higher of older Cube owners as there are on
> PS2. I seem to remember reading somewhere that in terms of software
> sales, Cube owners own more games than PS2 and Xbox users. The
> majority of PS2 owners are casual gamers who will buy maybe 4 games a
> year, when they can be bothered.
>
> The fact is that a lot of Cube's target audience will be people who
> have grown up with Nintendo all their life and are my definition of
> hardcore gamers..
There are some people who have grown up with Nintendo and stick to it (hard core gamers). But which type of gamer makes up the majority of the buying public? Box shifting is about appealing to as many people as possible. This is how Sony has built up it's large user base.
> Updated wrote:
> PS2, and XBox
> appeal to older gamers (notice the increase in "adult"
> games
> recently). These people are more likely to splash the cash, and
> "impulse buy". This is where the money is made.
>
> That's bullsh*t man.
>
> The fact is that younger console buyers are drawn to the PS2 with
> promise of being 'cool' and buying mature games. I bet if you did a
> survey of all PS2 owners and all the Cube owners, there'd be just as
> high percentage if not higher of older Cube owners as there are on
> PS2. I seem to remember reading somewhere that in terms of software
> sales, Cube owners own more games than PS2 and Xbox users. The
> majority of PS2 owners are casual gamers who will buy maybe 4 games a
> year, when they can be bothered.
>
> The fact is that a lot of Cube's target audience will be people who
> have grown up with Nintendo all their life and are my definition of
> hardcore gamers..
There are some people who have grown up with Nintendo and stick to it (hard core gamers). But which type of gamer makes up the majority of the buying public? Box shifting is about appealing to as many people as possible. This is how Sony has built up it's large user base.
Updated wrote:
> How many "kids" are playing The Getaway? How many parents
> would buy their younger kids a PS2 once they saw "adult"
> games like The Getaway?
Hundered of thousands, probably millions.
If you seriously don't think that kiddies play crap like 'The Getaway' then you're even more ignorant than I originally imagined.
As for the parents, half of them should be slapped.
> How many "kids" are playing The Getaway? How many parents
> would buy their younger kids a PS2 once they saw "adult"
> games like The Getaway?
Hundered of thousands, probably millions.
If you seriously don't think that kiddies play crap like 'The Getaway' then you're even more ignorant than I originally imagined.
As for the parents, half of them should be slapped.
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