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Mon 29/10/01 at 00:24
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On another topic-
Turbonutter wrote:

Maybe the PS2 hasn't lived up to expectations so far, but it definitely will by the
> end of next month.



First part of that sentence, very true indeed, sceptical in most part for the rest.

But I've a bit of advice for PS2 potential buyer's.
The console is a must buy at the moment, considering what you get: PS, PS2 and DVD Player, not bad at all.

As for the games?, well that's the downer, they do suck mostly, for the moment anyway, I own the following and played most releases, but do remember- it is personal preference and 'MY opinion' as a Multi Format Gamer.

They are:

Gran Turismo 3: Great at first, great graphics 'only' in parts. Why oh Why could the graphics not have the frame rate and smoothness of the replays? mmm?
And Monotonous! This game is it!

SSX: Fabulous! Probably the only game I play the most on my PS2. The Graphics are great yes, but weren't we promised of more from the PS2?
From what Iv'e played ( H-o-u-r-s) the Dreamcast would shift this baby along with ease with no problem and that's the thing, It doesn't push the console enough in visuals, the gameplay more than make's up for it though.

Resident Evil Code Veronica X: Same as Dreamcast Version, but with a boost in gameplay. But one thing I have to ask, why did they make the visuals more murkier? I preferred the crisp look of the DC Original!

StarWars Starfighter: Boy was this game a let-down for me, really!
I concider myself a Starwars Fanatic and this game dissapoints in all departments.
This game is Boring!
Even the dysmal N64 Shadow's of the Empire is better.
Graphics tend to lose their visual quality too when the action heats up, or when more than one visual hits the screen, framerate gets jerky etc. Just play the game in combat sequences to see what I mean.
And what happened to the Textures we are so used to on the ships in the films? Flat dreary polygon's spoil the fun.
It has the lighting effect's, which are great, but put this up against Gamecube's Rogue Leader to see what a real console would do with the franchise.


And what have I got to look forward to in the future for PS2?
Well we have Devil may cry which looks promising, gameplay ozzing in quality (But with 'could look better graphics').

GTA 3 again one for the gameplay, visuals could have been better.

Final Fantasy 10: Now this is one that lives up to the PS2 name. Fantastic.

Metal Gear Solid 2: Probably the one that will put other PS2 Developer's to shame and teach them how to do good visuals on the system.

But generally, I know, I have a downbeat attitude for the PS2's games, But that's 'My opinion' I own a Dreamcast with 30 'something' game's for it; and with that console I've seen better looking game's and played better games for it than what I have played or seen for PS2.

And seeing games for Gamecube with tremendous visuals opens your eye's too. And I suppose that doesn't help when you look at PS2 Game's.
Anyway, again It's my opinion, don't get worked up about it or let it put you off the PS2, for those that haven't got it, go and get it, put the graphics behind you. It mightn't be all there for Gamecube type quality but hey, you get two console's in one, a DVD and Metal Gear Solid 2 that you'll not see on Gamecube. mmmm, can't wait!
Mon 29/10/01 at 01:14
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I don't know why you didn't like Starfighter. It's a fantastic game, but could be longer. Having said that, I still haven't got gold on all missions.

Also remember that graphics aren't everything and from what I've seen in Edge, the GameCube's aren't much better (if at all).
Mon 29/10/01 at 00:44
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Hmmmm..... this sounds like it was written by a sore Dreamcast owner. I can't help but doubt his PS2 ownership, as for the replies, I find it strange that you can base a consoles strength on games you've not played, especially seeing as the PS2 has apparently not lived up to expectations. What with Nintendos last console having been so dismal, I personally would not be in such a hurry to put my faith in Nintendo. But then again.... these are just my opinions. I wouldn't expect any of you to agree.
Mon 29/10/01 at 00:36
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The Game wrote:
> I don't think i'll ever switch my allegiance from Nintendo to Sony... or
> Microsoft...

I admit there are a few exclusive games that I wouldn't mind on
> Gamecube, but they're nothing that Mario, PIKMIN, Zelda and Luigi's Mansion
> can't more than compensate for... I am DEFINITELY getting a Gamecube... The PS2
> is just an intermediary but primarily a DVD for the family... I think they'd
> rather have a extra games console rather than a Fancy DVD that they won't use so
> much anyway...

Or you could buy a better Philips DVD player for 100.
Heh.
Mon 29/10/01 at 00:34
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Posts: 4,986
I don't think i'll ever switch my allegiance from Nintendo to Sony... or Microsoft...

I admit there are a few exclusive games that I wouldn't mind on Gamecube, but they're nothing that Mario, PIKMIN, Zelda and Luigi's Mansion can't more than compensate for... I am DEFINITELY getting a Gamecube... The PS2 is just an intermediary but primarily a DVD for the family... I think they'd rather have a extra games console rather than a Fancy DVD that they won't use so much anyway...

Game
Mon 29/10/01 at 00:27
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Posts: 14,738
Finally, someone who talks sense.

Well done mate, nice topic, clear and something for everyone to read. Who knows. MGS2 may find its way onto the GameCube... I am certainly not saying it won't!

And then, with GTA3 and MGS2, the GameCube will be cheaper and overall, the better console.

Bravo.
Mon 29/10/01 at 00:24
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Posts: 1,193
On another topic-
Turbonutter wrote:

Maybe the PS2 hasn't lived up to expectations so far, but it definitely will by the
> end of next month.



First part of that sentence, very true indeed, sceptical in most part for the rest.

But I've a bit of advice for PS2 potential buyer's.
The console is a must buy at the moment, considering what you get: PS, PS2 and DVD Player, not bad at all.

As for the games?, well that's the downer, they do suck mostly, for the moment anyway, I own the following and played most releases, but do remember- it is personal preference and 'MY opinion' as a Multi Format Gamer.

They are:

Gran Turismo 3: Great at first, great graphics 'only' in parts. Why oh Why could the graphics not have the frame rate and smoothness of the replays? mmm?
And Monotonous! This game is it!

SSX: Fabulous! Probably the only game I play the most on my PS2. The Graphics are great yes, but weren't we promised of more from the PS2?
From what Iv'e played ( H-o-u-r-s) the Dreamcast would shift this baby along with ease with no problem and that's the thing, It doesn't push the console enough in visuals, the gameplay more than make's up for it though.

Resident Evil Code Veronica X: Same as Dreamcast Version, but with a boost in gameplay. But one thing I have to ask, why did they make the visuals more murkier? I preferred the crisp look of the DC Original!

StarWars Starfighter: Boy was this game a let-down for me, really!
I concider myself a Starwars Fanatic and this game dissapoints in all departments.
This game is Boring!
Even the dysmal N64 Shadow's of the Empire is better.
Graphics tend to lose their visual quality too when the action heats up, or when more than one visual hits the screen, framerate gets jerky etc. Just play the game in combat sequences to see what I mean.
And what happened to the Textures we are so used to on the ships in the films? Flat dreary polygon's spoil the fun.
It has the lighting effect's, which are great, but put this up against Gamecube's Rogue Leader to see what a real console would do with the franchise.


And what have I got to look forward to in the future for PS2?
Well we have Devil may cry which looks promising, gameplay ozzing in quality (But with 'could look better graphics').

GTA 3 again one for the gameplay, visuals could have been better.

Final Fantasy 10: Now this is one that lives up to the PS2 name. Fantastic.

Metal Gear Solid 2: Probably the one that will put other PS2 Developer's to shame and teach them how to do good visuals on the system.

But generally, I know, I have a downbeat attitude for the PS2's games, But that's 'My opinion' I own a Dreamcast with 30 'something' game's for it; and with that console I've seen better looking game's and played better games for it than what I have played or seen for PS2.

And seeing games for Gamecube with tremendous visuals opens your eye's too. And I suppose that doesn't help when you look at PS2 Game's.
Anyway, again It's my opinion, don't get worked up about it or let it put you off the PS2, for those that haven't got it, go and get it, put the graphics behind you. It mightn't be all there for Gamecube type quality but hey, you get two console's in one, a DVD and Metal Gear Solid 2 that you'll not see on Gamecube. mmmm, can't wait!

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