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Japanese import Gamecubes will be able to use US GC software after you do a bit of DIY on your Gamecube.
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http://cube.ign.com/news/38874.html
Japanese import Gamecubes will be able to use US GC software after you do a bit of DIY on your Gamecube.
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Mystique wrote:
>the sega crapcast used normal CDs
and I thought Simon_nintendo was bias!
>the sega crapcast used normal CDs
and I thought Simon_nintendo was bias!
In the land of the rising sun they have dedicated teams of people who work REALLY hard to crack the lastest software and hardware. They scan through pages of code to create patches etc so that games can be cracked, and they stop at nothing to hack consoles.
You say that you'll need some kind of special machine to read the disks to actually be able to copy the games. I think i'm right in thinking that to rip Dreamcast games you just connect a fire-wire or something to the console, use some software from somewhere and they can be ripped. I don't know exactly how they do it, but it's something like that. Anyway, I guess a similar technique could be used to do the Gamecube! Still there's the matter of actually putting the games onto disks! HA HA! I think Nintendo have done a good job there. It's gonna be a tuff cooky to crack the problem that the cd's won't fit. The only way I could see pirates getting round this problem, is to either make you have to have a Panasonic Gamecube, or to have a CD/DVD player addon, much like the Doctor 64! I guess there's some bods over in Japan etc working on one as we speak and it'll appear on Lik-Sang shortly!
As for the Dreamcast using normal cd's. I'm pretty sure they had some sort of special DVD type CD which held like 3gigs. I can't be bother to look it up at the moment as i'm quite tired. Anyway, the reason that people were able to fit the games onto normal CD's to copy them, is because some games don't use all the space on the CD which is available to them, or the main reason is that all the sound is changed from sterio to mono, which dramatically reduces the space a game takes up.
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You say that you'll need some kind of special machine to read the disks to actually be able to copy the games. I think i'm right in thinking that to rip Dreamcast games you just connect a fire-wire or something to the console, use some software from somewhere and they can be ripped. I don't know exactly how they do it, but it's something like that. Anyway, I guess a similar technique could be used to do the Gamecube! Still there's the matter of actually putting the games onto disks! HA HA! I think Nintendo have done a good job there. It's gonna be a tuff cooky to crack the problem that the cd's won't fit. The only way I could see pirates getting round this problem, is to either make you have to have a Panasonic Gamecube, or to have a CD/DVD player addon, much like the Doctor 64! I guess there's some bods over in Japan etc working on one as we speak and it'll appear on Lik-Sang shortly!
As for the Dreamcast using normal cd's. I'm pretty sure they had some sort of special DVD type CD which held like 3gigs. I can't be bother to look it up at the moment as i'm quite tired. Anyway, the reason that people were able to fit the games onto normal CD's to copy them, is because some games don't use all the space on the CD which is available to them, or the main reason is that all the sound is changed from sterio to mono, which dramatically reduces the space a game takes up.
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Cooky wrote:
> attention that the Dreamcast used special disks aswell. Something like a 3gig
> disk :)
the sega crapcast used normal CDs
> attention that the Dreamcast used special disks aswell. Something like a 3gig
> disk :)
the sega crapcast used normal CDs
Poor countries, including those that are under developed, but devloped enough to have games consoles, are the biggest pffenders of piracy. Some countries are even supporting (albeit unofficially) piracy.
AliBoy wrote:
> Strafex wrote:
Compared to the PS2 and Xbox, the Gamecube will be
>
> virtually piracy free.
As of yet I am unsure to whether the GC uses software
> coding to attempt to prevent Piracy. I know the PS2 and X-Box do but Im not sure
> if the GC does (I could be wrong) so if people copy the optical disks (it is
> possible to do this) then they may well run as normal.
What are they going to copy them onto then?
Like Darkness said, DVD's don't fit in the drive.
As for the panasonic one, all they'd have to do is make a little device that checks whether a Movie or Game is being played.
Then all it needs it an ultrasound or radiation scanner to detect the size of the disk.
That way, it'll stop a game from being played unless it's an optical disk.
I know that hackers will try and remove this detector it should be connected to the CPU, stopping the machine from working should it be removed.
They'll find a way around it eventually but think about it:
They'll need to find a device that reads off optical disks, They'll need to copy it onto a DVD.
They'll need to work out how to stop the machine detecting the copied DVD.
All that effort might be worthwhile in the long run but:
The numbers of this panasonic machine are extremely limited and the market would be so small that it's barely worthwhile doing.
Operations will be so small that Nintendo won't lose hardly anything.
The PS2 and Xbox are much much easier to hack in comparison, and EVERY PS2/Xbox owner will be a potential customer, not just the limited few with the special "DVD edition".
Like I said, there's bound to be small scale piracy but compared to the big black market's of the PS2 and Xbox, it'll be no more than a smudge.
> Strafex wrote:
Compared to the PS2 and Xbox, the Gamecube will be
>
> virtually piracy free.
As of yet I am unsure to whether the GC uses software
> coding to attempt to prevent Piracy. I know the PS2 and X-Box do but Im not sure
> if the GC does (I could be wrong) so if people copy the optical disks (it is
> possible to do this) then they may well run as normal.
What are they going to copy them onto then?
Like Darkness said, DVD's don't fit in the drive.
As for the panasonic one, all they'd have to do is make a little device that checks whether a Movie or Game is being played.
Then all it needs it an ultrasound or radiation scanner to detect the size of the disk.
That way, it'll stop a game from being played unless it's an optical disk.
I know that hackers will try and remove this detector it should be connected to the CPU, stopping the machine from working should it be removed.
They'll find a way around it eventually but think about it:
They'll need to find a device that reads off optical disks, They'll need to copy it onto a DVD.
They'll need to work out how to stop the machine detecting the copied DVD.
All that effort might be worthwhile in the long run but:
The numbers of this panasonic machine are extremely limited and the market would be so small that it's barely worthwhile doing.
Operations will be so small that Nintendo won't lose hardly anything.
The PS2 and Xbox are much much easier to hack in comparison, and EVERY PS2/Xbox owner will be a potential customer, not just the limited few with the special "DVD edition".
Like I said, there's bound to be small scale piracy but compared to the big black market's of the PS2 and Xbox, it'll be no more than a smudge.
Nintendo and Panasonic are experimenting with doubled layered discs at the moment, I think. Which, in case you didn't know, gives double the storage space.
Two words: Panasonic Version!
Also i'd like to bring it to peoples attention that the Dreamcast used special disks aswell. Something like a 3gig disk or something, i can't remembre. Well they were copied easily enough weren't they!?!
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Also i'd like to bring it to peoples attention that the Dreamcast used special disks aswell. Something like a 3gig disk or something, i can't remembre. Well they were copied easily enough weren't they!?!
:)
Recordable DVD's?
no!
The optical disk is much smaller than a DVD. A DVD would not fit in the drive. OK, so you could have your GC linked up to a DVD player,which is chipped, the GC is chipped, and after that you could have bought 20 official GC games!
no!
The optical disk is much smaller than a DVD. A DVD would not fit in the drive. OK, so you could have your GC linked up to a DVD player,which is chipped, the GC is chipped, and after that you could have bought 20 official GC games!
Nintendo Outsmarted again!!!!
Going that the Gamecubes not going to be released in the UK till next March, I think Nintendo might have a chance to correct this slight mishap! OH well! Time will tell!
:)
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