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Can Microsoft not think up any ideas of a new crime gang game.Why do Microsoft have to copy PS2?
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Hedfix wrote:
> D-Pad too small,
Ok, maybe for you, but if we're speaking comparitively here, then that's blatently not true. A quick comparison shows that it's bigger than those on the Controller S and Official GameCube controllers, and the same size as the Offical Xbox pad. Whatsmore, the inverted four triangles works the best when compared to Microsoft's meshed D-Pad, and Nintendo's conventional. It seems to go hand in hand with the GTA car handling.
> analogue stick placement is seriously outdated now.
That's an exaggeration. As a controller based solely on the original PSX design, it was always not going to work for certain genres. Agreed, with the current analogue stick position, is a poor controller for platformers, but it can be a real joy to use for games like Tony Hawk's and beat 'em ups. With GTA, it could be better, but the intuitive design on the developer's part means it isn't really a problem.
> Basically the console could have done with another, alternative,
> official controller rather than just a "if it ain't broke don't
> fix it" approach from Sony.
It was a tough job for Sony though - as the PS2 offered backwards compatability with PSX games, they had to make the controller work accordingly.
> The controller is the biggest hurdle for me because, quite frankly,
> it's not up to scratch compared to the controllers offered by
> Nintendo and Microsoft.
Well, I'd say that the Controller S and GameCube Official controllers beat it, but it's still better than Microsoft's poorly designed original.
> If Sony churn out the same pad and offer no alternative when the PS3
> come round I will not be purchasing it.
I'd be annoyed, but it wouldn't put me off the console.
> D-Pad too small,
Ok, maybe for you, but if we're speaking comparitively here, then that's blatently not true. A quick comparison shows that it's bigger than those on the Controller S and Official GameCube controllers, and the same size as the Offical Xbox pad. Whatsmore, the inverted four triangles works the best when compared to Microsoft's meshed D-Pad, and Nintendo's conventional. It seems to go hand in hand with the GTA car handling.
> analogue stick placement is seriously outdated now.
That's an exaggeration. As a controller based solely on the original PSX design, it was always not going to work for certain genres. Agreed, with the current analogue stick position, is a poor controller for platformers, but it can be a real joy to use for games like Tony Hawk's and beat 'em ups. With GTA, it could be better, but the intuitive design on the developer's part means it isn't really a problem.
> Basically the console could have done with another, alternative,
> official controller rather than just a "if it ain't broke don't
> fix it" approach from Sony.
It was a tough job for Sony though - as the PS2 offered backwards compatability with PSX games, they had to make the controller work accordingly.
> The controller is the biggest hurdle for me because, quite frankly,
> it's not up to scratch compared to the controllers offered by
> Nintendo and Microsoft.
Well, I'd say that the Controller S and GameCube Official controllers beat it, but it's still better than Microsoft's poorly designed original.
> If Sony churn out the same pad and offer no alternative when the PS3
> come round I will not be purchasing it.
I'd be annoyed, but it wouldn't put me off the console.
I too reckon the XBox pad is really comfortable. Fits in the hands well, without having to scrunch your fingers up to touch the buttons and thumb-sticks. This was a problem with the GC pad. It is too small so you have to bend your fingers when you want to use the L & R buttons, and I find my thumb hurts when using the analogue stick.
Dudes... You're forgetting about the SNES controllers :D
X box pad is the best. It fits my hands. And I prefer the original. The PS controllers just hurt my hands. I liked the DC pad, only problem was the top of the analogue stick hurt your thumb after a while. And I suppose after 4+ hours of squeezing the triggers your hands started to feel a bit sore. But generally good.
GC pad is... not as good as hoped.
GC pad is... not as good as hoped.
The Xbox D-PAD is terrible on Dead or Alive 3. Aside from that I haven't had alot of problems with it. The next Xbox pad I get will probably be the wireless unofficial pad which is modelled on the S controller and it has a rumble feature unlike the Wavebird.
*S-controller not S-pad
D'oh!
D'oh!
Yeah the Xbox controller seems to be a blend of the N64 and dreamcast controllers. The only problem I have with it is the D-pad, I always have problems with D-pad's on controllers though.
I really found using the D-pad troublesome with RAW as that game uses the D-pad as the main movement control. Luckily the S-pad has a much better D-pad.
I really found using the D-pad troublesome with RAW as that game uses the D-pad as the main movement control. Luckily the S-pad has a much better D-pad.
The Dreamcast one causes me problems and I get severe cramp when playing Virtua Tennis 2. The position of the buttons and the boney style structure just irritates my hands. Very poorly designed and thankfully the Xbox controller was more rounded and overall quite a comofy controller.
I'd say my favourite is the N64 pad as it seemed to fit everything. Then it's a tie between the Xbox controller and the Cube controller. Then as I have said before it's every other controller ever invented (minus 1 ), including the rollerball, and then finally the doorstop people call a playstation controller.
For me the GameCube controller is the most comfortable and then the PS2 and Xbox one are cloesly tied. For overall control the PS2 pad probably pips the Xbox controller however for FPS games the Xbox controller runs out as my favourite. Overall however the GameCube controller is definitley the pick of the bunch for me.
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