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Mon 24/09/01 at 16:50
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Did anyone else see Watchdog the other day??? If you didn't and you use BT Internet Anytime (like me) this may interest you.

All the high usage users (me included, of course) were recently given a new number to dial up, ending in 004 instead of 001. I changed to this number and discovered it was absolute crap. I mean really bad. Most of the time I can't even connect, and when I do it drops regularly and is very slow. I sent them a complaint and and carried on, putting up with it. It isn't on, I pay 」15 a month to be able to use the internet when I want, and they are giving me what they promised. So I watched Watchdog the other day and apparently this is all a big BT scam. BT are giving all the high usage users this new number to put them off and make them think "This is crap, I'm getting Broadband." and then they make a fortune. Well, I want Broadband, but I ain't gettin off BT! Stuff them

Ah well, just my rant for the day.
Wed 26/09/01 at 00:38
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Yes, heh, Andi is right...but then, to link two hubs together for expansion, you need a crossover cable..
Wed 26/09/01 at 00:35
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Rob!

You idiot!

I know more than you!

Crossover cables only connect two computers. as the title suggests the wires are crossed over so you just need the wires plugged into the cards. to use a hub you need standard (not crossover) cables.
Tue 25/09/01 at 23:06
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No problem...I really need to stop procrastinating though. Damn project work, only a few weeks in to Year 10 and we've already got assessments and coursework set..
Tue 25/09/01 at 23:00
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Nice one. Cheers for the help.
Over and out.
Tue 25/09/01 at 22:56
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Yeah, any sort of modem is fine, just a method of connecting to the internet on one PC.
Tue 25/09/01 at 22:54
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I'm presuming that hubs don't need a cable modem? A 56k will do?
Tue 25/09/01 at 22:50
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Ok, quick description of my setup - 4 machines, all running Win2k, all connected to the same hub. One of them has the cable modem connected, has internet connection sharing enabled, and is assigned 192.168.1.1 (easy reference).

All the other machines on the network are set to use 192.168.1.1 as the gateway, and all internet requests go via that to the outside world. Just enable internet connection sharing on the machine with the modem, assign it an IP address, have the others use that as the gateway, and set the subnet masks on all of them to 255.255.255.0
Tue 25/09/01 at 22:41
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I've got two PCs linked directly via two NICs and a crossover cable. (v fast and v easy, just plug 'em in and any you go) But I've only got one phoneline. And I want them both to have internet access.

I know you can do it if you you install Win2K server and set up a domain and proper network etc. Server/Client & DHCP/TCP-IP. Been there, done that.

Just wondered if I could do it peer-to-peer. Give the hub/switch/whatever the IP address and connect the two PCs via that. Or something. See what I'm getting at?
Tue 25/09/01 at 20:10
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I think you need an rj45 hub and some crossover cables, but I'm not 100% on that.

To get broadband, you need to be near a BT exchange and BT have to be willing to put a line in for you. After that, you need an ADSL modem of some sort. It's about 」70 for installation, and then rental's about 」25 / month. Go to http://www.broadband-cable.co.uk to check for availability.
Tue 25/09/01 at 19:45
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If all you want to do is set up file/print/connection sharing, then you don't need anything more than a hub and a bit of rj45. Win2k is definately preferable for networking, 9x tends to take over and try to make you do what it wants, 2k has much better control (and has a built in dhcp service for larger networks).

For any small LAN (up to 30-40 boxen), a hub or two should be fine, just plug each computer in to it and mess around with the setup a bit...I can give you an exact guide on doing this if you want it, I've done it too many times now..

Once you get past a certain number of PCs, you'll start to get noticeable slowdown (moreso in games situations due to the dependance on uninterupted data streams and effects of packet loss), because hubs send the data to all other computers connected, whether they requested it or not. Switches only send it where it's needed, thus preventing the network from getting overloaded with data packets.

As I said, this isn't really an issue for small networks, just needs to be taken in to consideration when working on a larger scale, especially for gaming. Basically, if you want to set up a small network, you will need:

NIC in each PC (Network card),
RJ45 hub (preferably 10/100mbit with at least enough ports for the number of PCs you want, and a socket which will allow expansion if you need it - port one can often be used to link hubs with a crossover cable),
Length of RJ45 or UTP cable for each box,
Washing up liquid bottle.

Have a look around, you can pick up small hubs for ~」30 and cables for a few quid...Stick a network card in each PC, cable from each PC to the hub, and then enter the joys of Windows Notworking.

To be fair, it's a lot easier in 2k, not too hard to work out. Shout if you want any help.

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