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Sun 31/08/03 at 23:22
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I don't know if it's Nintendo or if it's just me!

Sure, I don't get excited and possessed by games quite the way I used to, but Nintendo don't make exciting games quite the way they used to either.

It started with Pikmin and Luigi's Mansion.
Great games, but very short and seemed pretty underdone.
"Fair enough," I thought "Nintendo got these out in time for the launch and are concentrating on their bigger titles."

Mario comes out.
Fantastic at first... but so shortlived and again it seemed underwhelming. Although it was a lot slicker and more playable than Mario 64, I actually found it shorter and less challenging.
Seeing as Mario 64 was Nintendo's first attempt at 3D platforming 6 years ago, you probably expect a HUGE amount of improvement in the new more powerful Gamecube.
It seemed a bit more like a spin-off.

Same with Zelda.
I wasn't put off at all by the Cel Shaded graphics.
I thought that it was a great idea.
Thing is, after develloping this super smooth, groundbreaking new game engine, Nintendo then filled it with sea, and filled the land with mostly watered down elements of previous Zelda games.
Again, the basic game engine (controls and basic gameplay and graphics) were fantastic, but when it came to designing the rest of the game, it seemed pretty much "make do".


Not such a bad thing, because they are still great games, but it's hard to believe that this is the same Nintendo that pushed to be at the very forefront of gaming, to always be a giant step ahead of anything the competition could offer.
Each of these games have shown the potential to be such a game, just not followed through.

Maybe it's our fault, like Dringo said. For years fans have been complaining about high prices and large gaps between releases, so Nintendo are now rushing, but I don't think it's JUST gamer requests...
Nintendo themselves admitted going for a more profitable marketing scheme.



Still, it's not just Nintendo's loss of enthusiesm for making great games that's causing this. I've started to go off games anyway.
I suppose after the delights of Goldeneye, nothing would ever impress in the same way, but Nintendo were still managing to impress me with Majora's Mask and Rare's Conker managed to surprise me in a way that I didn't think the N64 was still capable off.


Perhaps I overhyped to myself what the Gamecube's new power would mean for games...
And it's not just the Gamecube either.
Although I really like Halo on the Xbox, not THAT much considering the hype - not to a Goldeneye standard.

Anyways, too the point.
Whether Nintendo can't be arsed or whether I'm just growing out of games, one fact remains - new games aren't really impressing me anymore.
For some reason, I'm finding myself look to the mediocre but cheaper selection of older games.

Anyway, seeing as new games aren't really impressing me (although I expect I'll get a little fun out of the likes of Mario Kart and F-Zero), I'm looking forward to the systems death so I can pick up loads of games dirt cheap, cheaper than ever.

Quantity can make up for quality!









So erm...

what do you all think? :-S
Tue 02/09/03 at 20:39
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J-42 wrote:
> Zelda, .... shorter than i anticipated ....
>
> Metroid - Not one of my favourite, ....
>
> Super Smash Bros. not repetitive, despite what some say....
>
> Mario Part 4 - Not good one player, ....


You don't really make a great argument... ;^)
Tue 02/09/03 at 20:32
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Nintendo are by no means losing their touch. For example:

Zelda, although shorter than i anticipated had some twists, the graphics were great, and gameplay was extremely impressive.

Metroid - Not one of my favourite, never the less , it was a very well selling game.

Super Smash Bros. Frantic fun sums it up. A huge laugh to play, and not repetitive, despite what some say.

Mario Part 4 - Not good one player, but multi player is fantastic.

In the future there is games like Mario Kart, F ZERO, Mario Golf. I disagree that Nintendo are not producing good enough games.
Tue 02/09/03 at 17:16
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DreamWarBird wrote:

> Well when u do a 9 to 5 job, you eat then pub, then bed then work
> again.

That's a very monotonous life you lead.
Tue 02/09/03 at 15:36
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Nah im just messing around :p

Just that spend alot of time at the pub, when 4 years ago i was playing on my Playstation/Dreamcast/N64.
Tue 02/09/03 at 15:33
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DreamWarBird wrote:
> Well when u do a 9 to 5 job, you eat then pub, then bed then work
> again.

*makes solemn promise to self never to be like this, ever*
Tue 02/09/03 at 15:20
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Tiltawhirl wrote:
> DreamWarBird wrote:
> Ive grown out of gaming, cause im old enough for the pub.
>
> You spend all your spare time in the pub then do you?

Well when u do a 9 to 5 job, you eat then pub, then bed then work again.
Tue 02/09/03 at 15:15
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DreamWarBird wrote:
> Ive grown out of gaming, cause im old enough for the pub.

You spend all your spare time in the pub then do you?
Tue 02/09/03 at 15:12
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Ive grown out of gaming, cause im old enough for the pub.
Tue 02/09/03 at 11:01
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I've gotten fed-up with gaming, also.

6 months ago, I couldn't wait for the new Mario Kart, XIII, 1080 and other games that're now only week-away, really... But now, I really don't seem to care.

I barely play my GameCube as it is. And I can't really be bothered to spend money on games like I used to, only a few months ago.
The only time I really play it now is to update Winning Eleven 6, or for a quick multiplayer on Monkey Ball or something.


I'm not even tempted to play through The Wind Waker a second-time - despite how much I loved the game in the first place!


I like the "shortness" of the modern-day Nintendo game, though.
When I'm in the mood for playing a game, I now know it'll only take me a matter of weeks before I finish it and can move-on and enjoy 'real life', unlike Ocarina of Time, which took a too-big-a-chunk from my life when I finally got to play it, last year.

I don't want to spend half my spare-time playing games.
There are so-many 'better' things to do, instead.


To tell you the truth, I don't reckon I could be bothered to finish a "large" game again - no matter how great it may be.
Mon 01/09/03 at 21:58
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oh yeah... :)

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