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At last Nintendo seem to have got it right. The price cut of the CUBE to £79.99 is a fantastic lifeline for the console. The release of some of the most anticipated games in the next 2 months and the fantastic advertising campaign that (I hope) Nintendo have up their sleeve for the run up to Christmas. This should help put the cube to at least the number 2 position in the console sales race! But if the US is anything to go by it might even be the number one this Christmas in the UK.
As i've already said Nintendo just need that absolute killer ad campaign in the run up to crimbo for the likes of mario kart, 1080 and f-zero to make it the best Christmas ever!
I just cannot wait to see those sales figures for the next few months.
As i've already said Nintendo just need that absolute killer ad campaign in the run up to crimbo for the likes of mario kart, 1080 and f-zero to make it the best Christmas ever!
I just cannot wait to see those sales figures for the next few months.
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Well Zelda hung around for ages.
Well we'll just have to wait and see where Mario Kart charts on the all systems formats chart week after release...
Cyclone wrote:
> I think not. Practicly every person my age (well, boys, and a few
> girls) I know has played Mario Kart, and several are interested in
> the new one. But then again, I only know so many people. I think
> however, people have not decided to ignore Mario and chums. Thats a
> stupid thing to say IMO. Mario Kart should sell very very nicely.
Funnily enough, I was having a conversation with my friend (an incredibly hardcore PC-only gamer) about the GameCube price-drop. Predictably, he launched into a rant about how PC gaming 'rules all' and he wouldn't pay £80 for any console on the market.
Upon flicking open the latest GamesTM to the Double Dash preview, however, his eyes lit up. "Admittedly, out of all the games I've played on consoles, you've got to credit Mario Kart. I loved that game." Sure, it's not enough to make him buy a GC, but watching a strongly PC FPS orientated gamer get excited about a Mario Kart sequel (while overlooking every other console game in the mag), just proves the extent of that game's power.
> I know that, but it appears to offer the same content as GTA. Most
> morons won't give a toss if its got good scores or not. They'll get
> it.
Of course. To Joe Public, True Crime is better than GTA by default because it's newer and has better graphics. Noticing the game's on GameCube won't make them want to buy one, but will cancel out the urgent need to buy an Xbox/PS2 just to play GTA. It gives the Cube a fairer chance.
> I think not. Practicly every person my age (well, boys, and a few
> girls) I know has played Mario Kart, and several are interested in
> the new one. But then again, I only know so many people. I think
> however, people have not decided to ignore Mario and chums. Thats a
> stupid thing to say IMO. Mario Kart should sell very very nicely.
Funnily enough, I was having a conversation with my friend (an incredibly hardcore PC-only gamer) about the GameCube price-drop. Predictably, he launched into a rant about how PC gaming 'rules all' and he wouldn't pay £80 for any console on the market.
Upon flicking open the latest GamesTM to the Double Dash preview, however, his eyes lit up. "Admittedly, out of all the games I've played on consoles, you've got to credit Mario Kart. I loved that game." Sure, it's not enough to make him buy a GC, but watching a strongly PC FPS orientated gamer get excited about a Mario Kart sequel (while overlooking every other console game in the mag), just proves the extent of that game's power.
> I know that, but it appears to offer the same content as GTA. Most
> morons won't give a toss if its got good scores or not. They'll get
> it.
Of course. To Joe Public, True Crime is better than GTA by default because it's newer and has better graphics. Noticing the game's on GameCube won't make them want to buy one, but will cancel out the urgent need to buy an Xbox/PS2 just to play GTA. It gives the Cube a fairer chance.
Belldandy wrote:
> To me though, games like Mario Kart aren't what Nintendo needs right
> now. It's great for fans of Mario, but everyone else has long since
> decided to ignore Mario and chums.
I think not. Practicly every person my age (well, boys, and a few girls) I know has played Mario Kart, and several are interested in the new one. But then again, I only know so many people. I think however, people have not decided to ignore Mario and chums. Thats a stupid thing to say IMO. Mario Kart should sell very very nicely.
As far as party gaming goes Sony
> has it sewn up with several new dance games and the eye toy. Nintendo
> should have been the ones with something like eyetoy but all they've
> done is the e-reader which looks like it won't get a European release
> anyway, and is SO obviously designed with the old GBA in mind and not
> the SP.
The Eyetoy is annoying. Its been hailed as 'revolutionary' by the press, and thats because it appeared on the PS2. If it was on Cube, it'd still be loved, but by a few million less people.
> Yes I have said GTA won't, IMO, be a major system seller for Xbox,
> but the plethora of exclusives will be - Star Wars KOTOR stormed the
> all formats chart knocking Eyetoy off a 4 week #1 slot - and whilst
> the GC has True Crime you're forgetting that;
>
> A) It's multiformat - not cube exclusive.
> B) From all account it's crap.
>
I know that, but it appears to offer the same content as GTA. Most morons won't give a toss if its got good scores or not. They'll get it.
> To me though, games like Mario Kart aren't what Nintendo needs right
> now. It's great for fans of Mario, but everyone else has long since
> decided to ignore Mario and chums.
I think not. Practicly every person my age (well, boys, and a few girls) I know has played Mario Kart, and several are interested in the new one. But then again, I only know so many people. I think however, people have not decided to ignore Mario and chums. Thats a stupid thing to say IMO. Mario Kart should sell very very nicely.
As far as party gaming goes Sony
> has it sewn up with several new dance games and the eye toy. Nintendo
> should have been the ones with something like eyetoy but all they've
> done is the e-reader which looks like it won't get a European release
> anyway, and is SO obviously designed with the old GBA in mind and not
> the SP.
The Eyetoy is annoying. Its been hailed as 'revolutionary' by the press, and thats because it appeared on the PS2. If it was on Cube, it'd still be loved, but by a few million less people.
> Yes I have said GTA won't, IMO, be a major system seller for Xbox,
> but the plethora of exclusives will be - Star Wars KOTOR stormed the
> all formats chart knocking Eyetoy off a 4 week #1 slot - and whilst
> the GC has True Crime you're forgetting that;
>
> A) It's multiformat - not cube exclusive.
> B) From all account it's crap.
>
I know that, but it appears to offer the same content as GTA. Most morons won't give a toss if its got good scores or not. They'll get it.
I think you underestimate the popularity of Mario Kart.
EVERYONE loves mario kart.
Seriously.
EVERYONE loves mario kart.
Seriously.
Mario Kart is as big a name as any other video game franchise. Mates of mine who drooled over GTA and said the Cueb was crap time and time again can't wait for Mario Kart.
Perhaps not Mario, Pikmin, Pokemon or Zelda, but Mario Kart is a very big game. Plus, to me, the GameCube has loads and loads of brilliant exclusive XMas titles, and more than I can see on the XBox or PS2.
Perhaps not Mario, Pikmin, Pokemon or Zelda, but Mario Kart is a very big game. Plus, to me, the GameCube has loads and loads of brilliant exclusive XMas titles, and more than I can see on the XBox or PS2.
To me though, games like Mario Kart aren't what Nintendo needs right now. It's great for fans of Mario, but everyone else has long since decided to ignore Mario and chums. As far as party gaming goes Sony has it sewn up with several new dance games and the eye toy. Nintendo should have been the ones with something like eyetoy but all they've done is the e-reader which looks like it won't get a European release anyway, and is SO obviously designed with the old GBA in mind and not the SP.
Yes I have said GTA won't, IMO, be a major system seller for Xbox, but the plethora of exclusives will be - Star Wars KOTOR stormed the all formats chart knocking Eyetoy off a 4 week #1 slot - and whilst the GC has True Crime you're forgetting that;
A) It's multiformat - not cube exclusive.
B) From all account it's crap.
One thing that I think Nintendo should do now is drop the GBA SP price. 89.99 seems so expensive now when someone could buy a GC for 79.99 ! Maybe a bit of an own goal there...though Nintendo have that market safely in their grasp until the PSP arrives as the N-Gage is effectively dead on release.
Yes I have said GTA won't, IMO, be a major system seller for Xbox, but the plethora of exclusives will be - Star Wars KOTOR stormed the all formats chart knocking Eyetoy off a 4 week #1 slot - and whilst the GC has True Crime you're forgetting that;
A) It's multiformat - not cube exclusive.
B) From all account it's crap.
One thing that I think Nintendo should do now is drop the GBA SP price. 89.99 seems so expensive now when someone could buy a GC for 79.99 ! Maybe a bit of an own goal there...though Nintendo have that market safely in their grasp until the PSP arrives as the N-Gage is effectively dead on release.
And yet GTA has been out for 2 years already, and isn't all that fresh anymore. Sure it will sell quite a bit, but won't be an earth mover. You yourself said in the XBox forum that many people will have played it on PS2, or something to that effect.
True Crime is coming to GC, and it may not be as good (we don't know as of yet) but for 'those kids', its the same thing, with more in it, and that all important violence.
Mario Kart carries more weight than any other game coming out this Christmas.
True Crime is coming to GC, and it may not be as good (we don't know as of yet) but for 'those kids', its the same thing, with more in it, and that all important violence.
Mario Kart carries more weight than any other game coming out this Christmas.
Xbox has the GTA double pack for the first time, meaning two great games for £34.99, neither of which has any equivalent on the GC. Plus Nintendo has lost numerous Christmas releases just as Sony and MS have done as well.
From my experience parents don't just go out an buy the cheapest thing, they go out and buy what their little terrors ask for, which - given the current market - will be whatever has the violent/gangster/bloody/18Rated/"mature" games on it.
Such is the price gaming pays for wanting to go mainstream.
It was far better when gaming was the preserve of a minority - Nintendo stood a chance then.
From my experience parents don't just go out an buy the cheapest thing, they go out and buy what their little terrors ask for, which - given the current market - will be whatever has the violent/gangster/bloody/18Rated/"mature" games on it.
Such is the price gaming pays for wanting to go mainstream.
It was far better when gaming was the preserve of a minority - Nintendo stood a chance then.
Dringo wrote:
>>
> With many smash hit titles due on Gamecube this Christmas including
> Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg, F Zero GX and Mario Kart Double
> Dash!! It is perfectly likely that the next 3 months could place
> Nintendo right back into the console war.
>
> Nintendo have already confirmed a whole host of titles due for the
> first half of 2004 and beyond in europe. Including the return of
> massive Playstation franchise' Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy and
> the long awaited finale to the Resident Evil series. Nintendo's home
> grown champions including Mario 128, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Donkey
> Konga, Pikmin 2, Starfox 2, various Zelda titles, various Pokemon
> games and Animal crossing 2 will also help ensure a successfull 2004.
> Not to mention more exclusive content from Capcom, upcoming shooter
> Geist and Pilotwings... with still many more titles to be confirmed.
> It is safe to say Nintendo are here to stay, especially with the
> likes of new Metroid and Zelda... all due within the next year or 2.
>
>
Put it like that and you can't help but dance.
>>
> With many smash hit titles due on Gamecube this Christmas including
> Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg, F Zero GX and Mario Kart Double
> Dash!! It is perfectly likely that the next 3 months could place
> Nintendo right back into the console war.
>
> Nintendo have already confirmed a whole host of titles due for the
> first half of 2004 and beyond in europe. Including the return of
> massive Playstation franchise' Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy and
> the long awaited finale to the Resident Evil series. Nintendo's home
> grown champions including Mario 128, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Donkey
> Konga, Pikmin 2, Starfox 2, various Zelda titles, various Pokemon
> games and Animal crossing 2 will also help ensure a successfull 2004.
> Not to mention more exclusive content from Capcom, upcoming shooter
> Geist and Pilotwings... with still many more titles to be confirmed.
> It is safe to say Nintendo are here to stay, especially with the
> likes of new Metroid and Zelda... all due within the next year or 2.
>
>
Put it like that and you can't help but dance.
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