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Tue 11/09/01 at 19:25
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One of the questions that plagues my life this, “why is Britney so fi…..” oh sorry, wrong question. What I meant to say was, “should games have more than one genre? “Someone call the men in white coats” I hear you say. *No! Dear god let me explain!* What exactly do I mean??? Well listen up and I will tell you.

Have you ever for example, been playing a first person shooter and thought, “heh! That car looks cool, driving it would be cooler though”? If you say you haven’t you are probably lying, delusional or both! If truth be told I bet we would all love for a game like this, a FPS where you could hop into a car and seamlessly enter a racing game.

This is something that has never been done, seamlessly joining two game genres, without having separate levels or sub games. After claiming this I am probably going to get a lot of stick and examples from you lot, but if you think long and hard you will probably find I am right…..either that or the words Falcone: Into the Maelstrom, Bounty Hunter and X-Box have just come out of your mouth *typed by your fingers*.

For those of you who haven’t been informed, Falcone: ITM and Bounty Hunter are two very similar games, both being released on X-Box, the former on Ps2 as well, the latter X-Box exclusive. Falcone: ITM is being developed by Point Blank and Bounty Hunter by Warthog. Its amazing that both of these revolutionary games are being developed at the same time, but also being revolutionary for the same reason.

Revolutionary??? Why? Well if you read the title or this far you will know that these games are obviously cross genre. Which two genres though? FPS and Space arcade shooter. The two games obviously have different storylines, but they have the same basic premise.

Both games are FPS/Space arcade shooters that seamlessly join the two genres. Take for example you are flying your ship into a space station, people inside could start shooting at your ship. You now have two options, land your ship and blow them sky high or you can take them out using the guns mounted in the ship. The more ways to kill people the better I say.

So why is it that this two genre game thing has only just come about? Well if you look at the formats of the games I would say it is because of technical limitations. In what way? Well its mainly due to the fact that both parts of the game have to be running at the same time. If this wasn’t happening, when you left your ship the next section would have to be loaded in, ruining the whole concept of the two games.

Now obviously I can’t say whever the two games I have mentioned will be any good, you never can be certain, but if they are I can see a market opening up for this type of game. So the question I ask you is, “Do you think that this type of game has the potential to be a success?” I know I do, but do you?
Wed 12/09/01 at 21:43
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You mean like Grandtheft Auto.

Captain Planet's switch from foot to vehicle was also done mid level.


It's been done before but who's to say that these games won't do it better.

I've no idea becuase I've never played/read about them.
Wed 12/09/01 at 21:03
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Hmmm, it is kinda weird though dont you think?
Wed 12/09/01 at 16:56
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Strafex wrote:
> Ah, two genres sellotaped together...

>ill old news.
>perfect Dark on the Gameboy had you doing all sorts of things.

>Plenty of 16bit games too.
>Captain Planet had you on foot (platforming) most
> of the time but there were some objectives that could only be done in a vehicle you'd fly.

Yes you are right, but the thing is, they have seperate levels in them. This isn't the same as the games I have mentioned. They aren't seperated by levels, the change in genre occurs during the same level, seemlessly. You see?
Wed 12/09/01 at 16:21
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Iguana wrote:
> No, no you lot don’t understand what Triple H is trying to say.
> Although the games you have mentioned do indeed have different parts
> of different genres in them, but Falcone: ITM and Bounty Hunter have
> two complete genres within them. Sometimes a level could start with
> you in your ship, and you start the level by fighting in space with
> the main ships defence ships. Nice you have completed all of your
> objectives in space you can find a pre determined point to smash
> into. This allows you acess inside and you can then get out of the
> ship and run about in First person. Seemlessly…..the most important
> part. There is no loading or anything, just get out of your ship and
> you are sucked into a FPS level. Do you see what he means now?

I understood that, it was just expanded is all. Why else do you think I mentioned Mafia as a game that has outdoor areas, a real time "living" city and the ability to go between driving a car and moving about in first person at any time. Another game that comes into this group could be Star Wars: Galaxies which is intended to be a persistent on-line world in which you will be able to be a RPG type character based in the Star Wars universe. They intend to have later add ons allowing you to fly starfighters (maybe even starships as a group, though that's just my idea, no evidence of this) and such thus making it possible to play an online RPG then go into an Online space combat sim in the same game.
Wed 12/09/01 at 16:15
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Ah, two genres sellotaped together...

Still old news.
Perfect Dark on the Gameboy had you doing all sorts of things.

Plenty of 16bit games too.
Captain Planet had you on foot (platforming) most of the time but there were some objectives that could only be done in a vehicle you'd fly.
Wed 12/09/01 at 16:08
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No, no you lot don’t understand what Triple H is trying to say. Although the games you have mentioned do indeed have different parts of different genres in them, but Falcone: ITM and Bounty Hunter have two complete genres within them. Sometimes a level could start with you in your ship, and you start the level by fighting in space with the main ships defence ships. Nice you have completed all of your objectives in space you can find a pre determined point to smash into. This allows you acess inside and you can then get out of the ship and run about in First person. Seemlessly…..the most important part. There is no loading or anything, just get out of your ship and you are sucked into a FPS level. Do you see what he means now?
Wed 12/09/01 at 14:16
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Zelda isn't an RPG, but it could be said that it's a platform adventure. Although to be honest most of the platforming is just levels and these days every type of game has various levels. There's not really any platformers around nowadays because they have become a different type of adventure game.

Apparently I've won 7 gameadays, so I think I've already been noticed. Only 15 to go to draw level (it'll probably be more soon). I would write more reviews only they are too limited (only 4000 characters, if only I had realised my Smash brothers review would have been much less cut. I wish I had the uncut version around).
Wed 12/09/01 at 13:28
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I can name Smash Brothers as one - Platforming Fighter
And possibly Zelda (Platforming RPG)

They're all around if you know where to look.

How about Worms?

The Platformer(there was plenty of jumping and manouvering)/Strategy(tactics are vital in this game)/Shoot em up(guns, and big ones)

They're everywhere!
Wed 12/09/01 at 08:38
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Agent under fire is supposed to be a fps and driving sim but i think the reason games aren't of mixed genre is because what usually happens is you end up with a rubbish game not worked on enough in the needed areas.
Tue 11/09/01 at 23:19
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Well keep this standard you're working at now, and you'll soon be noticed.

I just wonder how you could write so much in a reply, and then do as much the next day.

;-)

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