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It seems our Hylian-Hero has taken a turn... and one that 25% of IGN-Cube readers aren't too happy with, although if we listen to reason there is many a reason as to why Nintendo went right at the fork.
The main reason was the direction of the francise. From the village towns and fending of flying bugs in Link's Awakening we were warped ever so quickly to The Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask where gloomy dungeons and scary scenes took over. So with this franchise that is suposed to be for kids we have gloomier than usual dungeons and 12ft monsters with multi-coloured tails.... not good. I'm not saying OOT was bad, BUT a Gamecube sister wasn't what Miyamoto wanted.
Okay so the SW2000 screens were good, and I for one wouldn't have shunned a lovely pre-rendered Zelda with FMV and lots of cool graphics... what I would have shunned is a spruced up ZELDA: OOT clone with a different storyline... 'The Legend of Celda' is much more original and with the 'toon-shading' some different doors are opened... of course some have closed but at least where Zelda is concerned we're on new ground.
I admit my first impressions weren't good, BUT after a couple of hours of thinking (and crying hysterically.. :D), I suddenly realised that the game would be packed with originality and greatness. The graphics are something new to Zelda but it doesn't mean for one second that the gameplay, which some believe made Zelda, with be traded in for humour and babyness. The comic humor in the game will have attracted a lot more people to the game and if a cartoon 'Celda' means parents wrap-up Gamecubes for their kids for Christmas 2002 then good! Because everyone deserves to experience it.
One of the main reaons I didn't buy, rent or even take a second look at Majoras Mask was because of the gloomy look. No, I'm not scared of it, but I just wasn't interested in a gloomy game... how can such a miserable looking game cheer anyone up!? I'm glad that Celda isn't like the other Zeldas that, over the years, have portrayed more and more gloomyness... And for those of you who're saying: "Pah, it isn't graphics that make the game!" Then give The Legend of 'Celda' a chance! The game has no reason to play any worse and to add some humor to the game to cancel out all the miserableness that has infected the franchise over the past few years... GOOD!
What you have to remember is that Nintendo aren't slacking off... the game, according to experts, is made well and despite the cartoonyness it fits together well with solids hitting and realtime shadows. Okay so Riding in the field in OOT might not be beaten by riding a cartoon horse with over-sized nostrils but where old records still stand new ones will be created and I guarantee 'The Legend of Celda' will have many pro's and it WILL be enjoyed by all... well... all who have a decent sense of humour and are up for playing a decent game!
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The main reason was the direction of the francise. From the village towns and fending of flying bugs in Link's Awakening we were warped ever so quickly to The Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask where gloomy dungeons and scary scenes took over. So with this franchise that is suposed to be for kids we have gloomier than usual dungeons and 12ft monsters with multi-coloured tails.... not good. I'm not saying OOT was bad, BUT a Gamecube sister wasn't what Miyamoto wanted.
Okay so the SW2000 screens were good, and I for one wouldn't have shunned a lovely pre-rendered Zelda with FMV and lots of cool graphics... what I would have shunned is a spruced up ZELDA: OOT clone with a different storyline... 'The Legend of Celda' is much more original and with the 'toon-shading' some different doors are opened... of course some have closed but at least where Zelda is concerned we're on new ground.
I admit my first impressions weren't good, BUT after a couple of hours of thinking (and crying hysterically.. :D), I suddenly realised that the game would be packed with originality and greatness. The graphics are something new to Zelda but it doesn't mean for one second that the gameplay, which some believe made Zelda, with be traded in for humour and babyness. The comic humor in the game will have attracted a lot more people to the game and if a cartoon 'Celda' means parents wrap-up Gamecubes for their kids for Christmas 2002 then good! Because everyone deserves to experience it.
One of the main reaons I didn't buy, rent or even take a second look at Majoras Mask was because of the gloomy look. No, I'm not scared of it, but I just wasn't interested in a gloomy game... how can such a miserable looking game cheer anyone up!? I'm glad that Celda isn't like the other Zeldas that, over the years, have portrayed more and more gloomyness... And for those of you who're saying: "Pah, it isn't graphics that make the game!" Then give The Legend of 'Celda' a chance! The game has no reason to play any worse and to add some humor to the game to cancel out all the miserableness that has infected the franchise over the past few years... GOOD!
What you have to remember is that Nintendo aren't slacking off... the game, according to experts, is made well and despite the cartoonyness it fits together well with solids hitting and realtime shadows. Okay so Riding in the field in OOT might not be beaten by riding a cartoon horse with over-sized nostrils but where old records still stand new ones will be created and I guarantee 'The Legend of Celda' will have many pro's and it WILL be enjoyed by all... well... all who have a decent sense of humour and are up for playing a decent game!
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Hopefully, Miyamoto will release another version of Zelda on the Gamecube a few years down the line, with the inital graphics engine shown is Spaceworld last year. Maybe it's Nintendo's plan - to release a "kiddy" version of Zelda, then later on release a more, grown up version. I hope. 'Cos I don't like the screenshots, although I haven't seen the movie yet.
I saw the Zelda running on video and I have to say that I agree that you have to see it actually moving. Screen shots dont do it justice.
Miyamoto said that too many people where copying his ideas and he was sick of it, especially in the Zelda genre where we have PS2's dark cloud aiming towards the look of the series (even though the game is supposed to be attrocious).
It is also to be noted that the GC Zelda leans heavily on the Zeldas of old, even the music in the video is from the Super Nes 'a link to the past'.
I doubt it will be anything other than fantastic.
Im looking forward to it...but the guys face! Come on Miyamoto!
Miyamoto said that too many people where copying his ideas and he was sick of it, especially in the Zelda genre where we have PS2's dark cloud aiming towards the look of the series (even though the game is supposed to be attrocious).
It is also to be noted that the GC Zelda leans heavily on the Zeldas of old, even the music in the video is from the Super Nes 'a link to the past'.
I doubt it will be anything other than fantastic.
Im looking forward to it...but the guys face! Come on Miyamoto!
I like the new look, im not sure about the pre school Link look, but I think it looks good otherwise. The still shots don't do it justice you need to see it moving.
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Maybe this is a sign that Miamoto-san is running
out of ideas? Possibly.
Or maybe its a sign that Mr Miyamoto is not afraid to use new ideas.
Maybe this is a sign that Miamoto-san is running
out of ideas? Possibly.
Or maybe its a sign that Mr Miyamoto is not afraid to use new ideas.
It makes more sense if it's a bright lovely day and then you see totally out of place bad guys sneaking about. It shows a contrast, which is a good thing I would say. Why are there no bad guys who live in bright flower surrounded blue castles with great sun light reflections showing the beauty of it and at night the moon light makes it look even better? They should do that some time. Ganon was a wimp in OOT anyway. They really need to make a challenging bad guy, not too difficult but difficult enough that there's no real specific system you can use to defeat him.
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Well well well, Nintendo have gone all cel-shaded.
Personally, I think this is a bad idea. Graphics are the main contributor to the atmosphere of a game and they certainly matter. If you've got a zelda-themed storyline and gameplay, the cel-shading is working against it and you end up with a mixture of styles. I think this will just seem wrong and maybe it will be less-well recieved by GameCube owners. Maybe this is a sign that Miamoto-san is running out of ideas? Possibly.
Personally, I think this is a bad idea. Graphics are the main contributor to the atmosphere of a game and they certainly matter. If you've got a zelda-themed storyline and gameplay, the cel-shading is working against it and you end up with a mixture of styles. I think this will just seem wrong and maybe it will be less-well recieved by GameCube owners. Maybe this is a sign that Miamoto-san is running out of ideas? Possibly.
It sets the atmosphere, the game wouldn't be right if it didn't, Would it? It would make no sense if some gibbos were walking about in the middle of a bright and gorgeous day!
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