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A recent news report suggests that the N5 has been put on hold for the forseeable future. A Dow jones news wire reports the following news:
OSAKA (Nikkei)--Nintendo Co. (7974.OK) has decided not to release a new video game console to follow its current GameCube for the time being, the Nihon Keizai Shimbun reported in its Tuesday edition.
The home-use game machine and software developer will instead diversify games and sell newly developed peripherals mainly for the GameCube. It will make games for the current model more appealing, while rivals Sony Corp. (6758.TO) and Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) plan to debut high-performance next-generation consoles that can be also used for non-game content such as movies and music.
Nintendo plans to release peripherals as early as 2005. Although details aren't yet known, these devices are expected to diversify playing styles by improving the gaming experience and connections with hand-held units rather than improve graphics and sound quality.
The decision to withhold the release of a new console was made because while the game market is contracting and becoming more diverse, "customers are fully satisfied with the performance of the current model," President Satoru Iwata said.
Nintendo will continue in-house development of a new home-use game machine for release in the future, but for the current future will add functions to the GameCube."
No longer releasing an N5 before PS3/Xenon then? Instead making add-ons to extend the Cube's lifespan.. the 32x, Mega CD and the 64DD spring to mind.. I agree the Cube-Europe, that by making non-standard peripherals essential to the playing of some games you split your userbase and make the Cube seem less attractive than the brand-spanking new rivals it'll have.
It would seem that the N5 has been indefinately postponed.. what are Nintendo doing!?
A recent news report suggests that the N5 has been put on hold for the forseeable future. A Dow jones news wire reports the following news:
OSAKA (Nikkei)--Nintendo Co. (7974.OK) has decided not to release a new video game console to follow its current GameCube for the time being, the Nihon Keizai Shimbun reported in its Tuesday edition.
The home-use game machine and software developer will instead diversify games and sell newly developed peripherals mainly for the GameCube. It will make games for the current model more appealing, while rivals Sony Corp. (6758.TO) and Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) plan to debut high-performance next-generation consoles that can be also used for non-game content such as movies and music.
Nintendo plans to release peripherals as early as 2005. Although details aren't yet known, these devices are expected to diversify playing styles by improving the gaming experience and connections with hand-held units rather than improve graphics and sound quality.
The decision to withhold the release of a new console was made because while the game market is contracting and becoming more diverse, "customers are fully satisfied with the performance of the current model," President Satoru Iwata said.
Nintendo will continue in-house development of a new home-use game machine for release in the future, but for the current future will add functions to the GameCube."
No longer releasing an N5 before PS3/Xenon then? Instead making add-ons to extend the Cube's lifespan.. the 32x, Mega CD and the 64DD spring to mind.. I agree the Cube-Europe, that by making non-standard peripherals essential to the playing of some games you split your userbase and make the Cube seem less attractive than the brand-spanking new rivals it'll have.
It would seem that the N5 has been indefinately postponed.. what are Nintendo doing!?
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Maverick42 wrote:
> Strafio wrote:
> Personally, I don't see the point in another Nintendo console.
>
> I don't think Nintendo do either, other than the fact that it is
> essential if they wish to maintain any hold on the home console
> market. A sad fact, but very true.
A hold for the sake of a hold is a pointless.
All they'd do is spend a fortune trying to be Microsoft and Sony, without the hefty resources to back it up and without enough other forms of revenue to fall back on and possibly end up like Sega.
Besides, I think that keeping the Gamecube budget will largen their share of the market. People will see the new Xbox 2's and PS3's at £300+ and see that the Gamecube is just £99 with a game, and a HUGE back catalogue of classics.
Even though a great deal of people would still choose their Playstations and Xbox's first, it might only be a matter of time until they find that they can afford a Gamecube as well, being so cheap.
It's the perfect console for 4 player games, Nintendo are still the best games maker around, even if they don't quite put in the effort they used to, and if Nintendo DID release and expensive new console, I can't see any major ways of them making it a worthwhile purchase, after all, the Gamecube can handle pretty much all their needs for now.
The area where there IS plenty of room for improvement is the handheld market, and Nintendo are possibly concentrating on that now.
The IQue (is that what it's called? the thing that plays N64 and Snes games) was a stroke of genius, finding a way to make a profitable business system in the capital of piracy (people will still find ways around it but it'll be a lot harder and possibly trackable).
If Nintendo meant what they said about "not directly competing" then the Gamecube has more than enough life left to last another 4-5 years.
The N64 wasn't good enough when I couldn't play Perfect Dark without all that awful slowdown.
I've yet to find a game that the Gamecube can't handle.
> Strafio wrote:
> Personally, I don't see the point in another Nintendo console.
>
> I don't think Nintendo do either, other than the fact that it is
> essential if they wish to maintain any hold on the home console
> market. A sad fact, but very true.
A hold for the sake of a hold is a pointless.
All they'd do is spend a fortune trying to be Microsoft and Sony, without the hefty resources to back it up and without enough other forms of revenue to fall back on and possibly end up like Sega.
Besides, I think that keeping the Gamecube budget will largen their share of the market. People will see the new Xbox 2's and PS3's at £300+ and see that the Gamecube is just £99 with a game, and a HUGE back catalogue of classics.
Even though a great deal of people would still choose their Playstations and Xbox's first, it might only be a matter of time until they find that they can afford a Gamecube as well, being so cheap.
It's the perfect console for 4 player games, Nintendo are still the best games maker around, even if they don't quite put in the effort they used to, and if Nintendo DID release and expensive new console, I can't see any major ways of them making it a worthwhile purchase, after all, the Gamecube can handle pretty much all their needs for now.
The area where there IS plenty of room for improvement is the handheld market, and Nintendo are possibly concentrating on that now.
The IQue (is that what it's called? the thing that plays N64 and Snes games) was a stroke of genius, finding a way to make a profitable business system in the capital of piracy (people will still find ways around it but it'll be a lot harder and possibly trackable).
If Nintendo meant what they said about "not directly competing" then the Gamecube has more than enough life left to last another 4-5 years.
The N64 wasn't good enough when I couldn't play Perfect Dark without all that awful slowdown.
I've yet to find a game that the Gamecube can't handle.
That article is bogus, I was reading an article about the NDS being a third console to go with the GBA2 and GC2/N5, so the N5 will definetly be needed for this triforce of consoles is to be completed before all other companies get their consoles out in 2005/6.
Strafio wrote:
> Personally, I don't see the point in another Nintendo console.
I don't think Nintendo do either, other than the fact that it is essential if they wish to maintain any hold on the home console market. A sad fact, but very true.
> Personally, I don't see the point in another Nintendo console.
I don't think Nintendo do either, other than the fact that it is essential if they wish to maintain any hold on the home console market. A sad fact, but very true.
Personally, I don't see the point in another Nintendo console.
EVERY Nintendo game made so far has been technically flawless.
No slowdown, no ugly graphics, no limitations in terms of power.
The only issues I've had is the content, or lack thereof, in the games.
Games don't get more playable than Mario Sunshine, Zelda: Windwaker, Smash Brothers Melée and Pikmin, and they don't get looking sweeter than Starfox Adventures.
Personally, if Nintendo made a more powerful console, i don't see how they'd make use of it.
MS and Sony, on the other hand, have hugely ambitious online plans, among other things which would make large use of the power. Also, their consoles have always been a little bit more about third party support, who don't enjoy optimising their games towards one particular console (and more power would mean they could make a blinding game without having to make blindingly complicated efficient coding).
And Nintendo have always said that they have their own corner of the market, independant from Sony and Microsoft.
Making and launching a new console is expensive.
Now the Gamecube is established and hasn't touched any of it's limitations, why move on?
I think Nintendo could make more by milking the Gamecube as a budget console. Gradually lowering the price of its games and peripherals as it gains back the costs from advertising and devellopment and then it'll be a nice, pure, risk-free, steady profit from there on, while the two corporate giants try to knock each other out of the business.
EVERY Nintendo game made so far has been technically flawless.
No slowdown, no ugly graphics, no limitations in terms of power.
The only issues I've had is the content, or lack thereof, in the games.
Games don't get more playable than Mario Sunshine, Zelda: Windwaker, Smash Brothers Melée and Pikmin, and they don't get looking sweeter than Starfox Adventures.
Personally, if Nintendo made a more powerful console, i don't see how they'd make use of it.
MS and Sony, on the other hand, have hugely ambitious online plans, among other things which would make large use of the power. Also, their consoles have always been a little bit more about third party support, who don't enjoy optimising their games towards one particular console (and more power would mean they could make a blinding game without having to make blindingly complicated efficient coding).
And Nintendo have always said that they have their own corner of the market, independant from Sony and Microsoft.
Making and launching a new console is expensive.
Now the Gamecube is established and hasn't touched any of it's limitations, why move on?
I think Nintendo could make more by milking the Gamecube as a budget console. Gradually lowering the price of its games and peripherals as it gains back the costs from advertising and devellopment and then it'll be a nice, pure, risk-free, steady profit from there on, while the two corporate giants try to knock each other out of the business.
Dringo wrote:
> With a Swish.
Dringo, go to the music thread, and see my Minidisc topic, i have a problem... Thanks
> With a Swish.
Dringo, go to the music thread, and see my Minidisc topic, i have a problem... Thanks
With a Swish.
Maverick42 wrote:
> This is most likely bogus.
Dringo wrote:
> The article is crap, NOA have released a statement... avalible on IGN
> calling the article bogus...
Swish!
Mav scores again.
> This is most likely bogus.
Dringo wrote:
> The article is crap, NOA have released a statement... avalible on IGN
> calling the article bogus...
Swish!
Mav scores again.
"Launch at the same time as our competitors."
Eh well there's a relief.
Eh well there's a relief.
He probably said something along the lines of, "The main focus at this year's E3 will be on new accessories" and the reports just decided it meant no N5.
That's what normally happens in these cases. Key figures in Nintendo are always mis-quoted.
That's what normally happens in these cases. Key figures in Nintendo are always mis-quoted.
Yeah of course I know they are the same company, but NOJ is the holding company, it calls the shots. NOA does what it is told.
I also see they had the PR people out to deny it. But the fact remains, Iwata said something along those lines. When exactly, or why, I don't know. But he said it. And the fact he even said it is scary enough.
I also see they had the PR people out to deny it. But the fact remains, Iwata said something along those lines. When exactly, or why, I don't know. But he said it. And the fact he even said it is scary enough.
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