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Ok, I'm writing this completely off the top of my head, so bear with me, hopefully it'll all make sense in the end.
Right, now that warning is out of the way I can get on with it:
Geekiness is related to computer games BIG TIME. but in this post I'm not going to comment on how comouter games are seen by people out side of the industry. I'm going to concentrate on geekiness from inside the gaming "club".
Most people on here, who read this, will have at least some interest in games, so hopefully, together, we can figure out an answer to this simple question:
Why is it considered "geeky" to sit and play MS Train Sim all night, yet it's not considered "geeky" to sit and play Counter Strike all night? They are both games, they both allow you to do things you can't (easily) do in real life.
Is it because shooting people is considered MANLY and HARD and COOL?
I would have thought that as gamers are already considered "geeks" by most of the press and other outsiders, that this kind of prejudice wouldn't be happening within our "gaming group".
I'm just as guilty of it as anyone else. I've taken the mick out of Train Sim in a number posts, as have others. But why do we do it? A HUGE number of people have train sets and stuff set up in their lofts and garages, probably more so than flight sim enthusiasts. Yet flight sim people aren't ridiculed like Train Sim people. It;s not just Train Sim, The Sims also comes under this "geeky" label.
However "geeky" it is considered, Train Sim will sell well, *yet no one will admit to buying a copy!!*. It's the same with The Sims, that game and its expansion packs are always in the top ten. Why?
Could it be that these games have the biggest online communities? Where people who like the same thing (Trains, The Sims etc) get together without fear of reprisal?
I just typed The Sims into google, this came up:
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,330,000
1,330,000 pages!?!? Thats A LOT of fans, add ons and web sites out there.
It would seem the meek are content to sit and rule their virtual world, rather than take part in the real one. And who can blame them?
Right, now that warning is out of the way I can get on with it:
Geekiness is related to computer games BIG TIME. but in this post I'm not going to comment on how comouter games are seen by people out side of the industry. I'm going to concentrate on geekiness from inside the gaming "club".
Most people on here, who read this, will have at least some interest in games, so hopefully, together, we can figure out an answer to this simple question:
Why is it considered "geeky" to sit and play MS Train Sim all night, yet it's not considered "geeky" to sit and play Counter Strike all night? They are both games, they both allow you to do things you can't (easily) do in real life.
Is it because shooting people is considered MANLY and HARD and COOL?
I would have thought that as gamers are already considered "geeks" by most of the press and other outsiders, that this kind of prejudice wouldn't be happening within our "gaming group".
I'm just as guilty of it as anyone else. I've taken the mick out of Train Sim in a number posts, as have others. But why do we do it? A HUGE number of people have train sets and stuff set up in their lofts and garages, probably more so than flight sim enthusiasts. Yet flight sim people aren't ridiculed like Train Sim people. It;s not just Train Sim, The Sims also comes under this "geeky" label.
However "geeky" it is considered, Train Sim will sell well, *yet no one will admit to buying a copy!!*. It's the same with The Sims, that game and its expansion packs are always in the top ten. Why?
Could it be that these games have the biggest online communities? Where people who like the same thing (Trains, The Sims etc) get together without fear of reprisal?
I just typed The Sims into google, this came up:
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,330,000
1,330,000 pages!?!? Thats A LOT of fans, add ons and web sites out there.
It would seem the meek are content to sit and rule their virtual world, rather than take part in the real one. And who can blame them?
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So no one else has a comment on this then?
Because of the Train Spotter link.
People are buying it, but they're treating it like animal porno and not telling anyone they have it.
Me?
That game costs £49, I won't pay that for any game.
People are buying it, but they're treating it like animal porno and not telling anyone they have it.
Me?
That game costs £49, I won't pay that for any game.
I've put my feelings of Brasseye in the thread started by Ant over in the films forum.
Going back to the geekiness thing. There are probably more kids who play with train sets than there are kids who play war.
Train Sim isn't a trainspotting game. It's a train driving game in the same way as MS Flight Sim is about flying planes, not spotting them. But why is Flight Sim not ridiculed as much as Train Sim?
Going back to the geekiness thing. There are probably more kids who play with train sets than there are kids who play war.
Train Sim isn't a trainspotting game. It's a train driving game in the same way as MS Flight Sim is about flying planes, not spotting them. But why is Flight Sim not ridiculed as much as Train Sim?
I don't care.
Why?
Because I am evolved and intelligent.
This will fall back into the old "Video games inspire violence?" debate, which has been proved to be absolute poppycock.
I was a kid once, and I watched Star Wars, The Longest Day, all manner of things with violent imagery.
I played war, I played video games.
No effect on me.
But then I'm one of the few that thinks Brasseye is genius.
GO figure
Why?
Because I am evolved and intelligent.
This will fall back into the old "Video games inspire violence?" debate, which has been proved to be absolute poppycock.
I was a kid once, and I watched Star Wars, The Longest Day, all manner of things with violent imagery.
I played war, I played video games.
No effect on me.
But then I'm one of the few that thinks Brasseye is genius.
GO figure
But do you think it's wrong that Shooting people is seen as fun?
Is this the right message to be giving kids?
Is this the right message to be giving kids?
Why is Train Sim geeky and Counterstrike isn't?
Because Counter-strike is top multi-player fun, a laugh.
Trainspotters (who this is aimed at) ARE geeks. It's a worldwide understood fact of life.
Trainspotters are anorak wearing, bearded virgins with too much free time and not enough mates.
You can't argue that fact.
Because Counter-strike is top multi-player fun, a laugh.
Trainspotters (who this is aimed at) ARE geeks. It's a worldwide understood fact of life.
Trainspotters are anorak wearing, bearded virgins with too much free time and not enough mates.
You can't argue that fact.
Well I admit that I have the Sims and use many of the web sites for new things etc, but I would never buy Train Simulator just becuase it doesn't appeal to me sitting with a train.
Geeky? I don't think that you can stereotype gamers as being geeks anymore as most people do own a games console and/or PC which they play games on.
Geeky? I don't think that you can stereotype gamers as being geeks anymore as most people do own a games console and/or PC which they play games on.
Ok, I'm writing this completely off the top of my head, so bear with me, hopefully it'll all make sense in the end.
Right, now that warning is out of the way I can get on with it:
Geekiness is related to computer games BIG TIME. but in this post I'm not going to comment on how comouter games are seen by people out side of the industry. I'm going to concentrate on geekiness from inside the gaming "club".
Most people on here, who read this, will have at least some interest in games, so hopefully, together, we can figure out an answer to this simple question:
Why is it considered "geeky" to sit and play MS Train Sim all night, yet it's not considered "geeky" to sit and play Counter Strike all night? They are both games, they both allow you to do things you can't (easily) do in real life.
Is it because shooting people is considered MANLY and HARD and COOL?
I would have thought that as gamers are already considered "geeks" by most of the press and other outsiders, that this kind of prejudice wouldn't be happening within our "gaming group".
I'm just as guilty of it as anyone else. I've taken the mick out of Train Sim in a number posts, as have others. But why do we do it? A HUGE number of people have train sets and stuff set up in their lofts and garages, probably more so than flight sim enthusiasts. Yet flight sim people aren't ridiculed like Train Sim people. It;s not just Train Sim, The Sims also comes under this "geeky" label.
However "geeky" it is considered, Train Sim will sell well, *yet no one will admit to buying a copy!!*. It's the same with The Sims, that game and its expansion packs are always in the top ten. Why?
Could it be that these games have the biggest online communities? Where people who like the same thing (Trains, The Sims etc) get together without fear of reprisal?
I just typed The Sims into google, this came up:
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,330,000
1,330,000 pages!?!? Thats A LOT of fans, add ons and web sites out there.
It would seem the meek are content to sit and rule their virtual world, rather than take part in the real one. And who can blame them?
Right, now that warning is out of the way I can get on with it:
Geekiness is related to computer games BIG TIME. but in this post I'm not going to comment on how comouter games are seen by people out side of the industry. I'm going to concentrate on geekiness from inside the gaming "club".
Most people on here, who read this, will have at least some interest in games, so hopefully, together, we can figure out an answer to this simple question:
Why is it considered "geeky" to sit and play MS Train Sim all night, yet it's not considered "geeky" to sit and play Counter Strike all night? They are both games, they both allow you to do things you can't (easily) do in real life.
Is it because shooting people is considered MANLY and HARD and COOL?
I would have thought that as gamers are already considered "geeks" by most of the press and other outsiders, that this kind of prejudice wouldn't be happening within our "gaming group".
I'm just as guilty of it as anyone else. I've taken the mick out of Train Sim in a number posts, as have others. But why do we do it? A HUGE number of people have train sets and stuff set up in their lofts and garages, probably more so than flight sim enthusiasts. Yet flight sim people aren't ridiculed like Train Sim people. It;s not just Train Sim, The Sims also comes under this "geeky" label.
However "geeky" it is considered, Train Sim will sell well, *yet no one will admit to buying a copy!!*. It's the same with The Sims, that game and its expansion packs are always in the top ten. Why?
Could it be that these games have the biggest online communities? Where people who like the same thing (Trains, The Sims etc) get together without fear of reprisal?
I just typed The Sims into google, this came up:
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,330,000
1,330,000 pages!?!? Thats A LOT of fans, add ons and web sites out there.
It would seem the meek are content to sit and rule their virtual world, rather than take part in the real one. And who can blame them?
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