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Sun 29/07/01 at 16:56
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Looking at the title you’ll probably be thinking that this topic is about people cheating in games. Using cheats for invincibility for example or manipulating something or other to give you extra power. Or something along those lines. Well that’s not what this topic is about. This is about the GAMES THEMSELVES cheating.

Mario Kart 64 is probably the best example I’ve seen of this. Have you noticed that when you use a mushroom or a golden mushroom, that you don’t get very far away from the computer players. If you haven’t noticed, go and play and see for yourself. You seen that? Good. Now there are two sides to this argument so I’m going to express both of them.

Firstly I could argue that this is extremely annoying. Which it is. The fact that you use a turbo boost only to get nowhere is extremely tiresome. I know it frustrates me greatly, it frustrates my sister as well when she plays on it.

But then again I could argue that the game only does this to add an extra incentive to the game. To make it more challenging. Which, of course, it does. If and when you win the race you feel a little bit better because you won even though the computer was cheating. In this sense it’s a good thing, but the fact is that the computers cheating.

You think this is the only time it happens? MK64 again, if the computer player gets hit with something they get blown up like you do, but then they speed off at full speed without needing to build it up at all. Whereas you have to build up your speed until it peaks again. This is VERY annoying to me.

It’s not only in Mario Kart that cheating occurs. In the original Excitebike on the NES, when you crash your rider gets flung from the bike and so has to leg it back and jump on again. When the computer players crash though, they stay on their bike and resume driving immediately. It’s quite disturbing to see cheating like this so early on the life of video games.

As I’ve said. This can sometimes be good, because it makes it tougher and so prolongs the lastability. But surely cheating’s wrong, I mean weren’t you told by your parents that cheating is bad and immoral when you were young? I was.
So why is it there? Do the developers and creators of the games put this in on purpose? Do they intentionally frustrate people by allowing certain privileges to computer controlled characters? Or is it merely a bug?

RBS
Mon 30/07/01 at 18:17
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Whatever time_warp you only started to know me in year 7 so shove off.
Mon 30/07/01 at 18:19
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and plus i had a 64 at the start of year 7 (okay it was second hand, but things were tough now dont even try to get me any more, back off you gaming freak!!!!
Mon 30/07/01 at 18:22
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( i'm on a role here so dont try to stop me)

Time_Warp. Okay i havent had as many consoles as you, but i have a computer, duh!!, so why dont you go and play on the millions of consoles you have in your house

Leave me alone oaky
Mon 30/07/01 at 18:26
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Oaky. Not mocking.
Mon 30/07/01 at 18:31
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I know that i'm not exactely the most popular guy here, no let me think about it, i'm hardly popular at all no-one likes me not even by best friend at school (Time_Warp)
Mon 30/07/01 at 18:36
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but let me just say that i've had my time in gaming. But i ran out of money (i'm very poor) and had to stop so sorry i lashed out

opps
Mon 30/07/01 at 19:40
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RastaBillySkank wrote:

The riders in Excitebike
> 64 crash :-D

Haven't played it.

I haven't bought an n64 for ages. My last one was in Christmas. Perfect Dark.

Saving all my cash for GameCube.
;)
Mon 30/07/01 at 19:44
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Despite my name I cheat a lot on all my Zelda games but they have been completed at least twice already and have everything done and dusted.

Like on OoT I like now just messing around with my xplorer 64 cartridge becuase once the game is done, it is boring!

But I hate thats where your opponents are supposedly as powerful or weaker than you and they dont have the same recovery time as you or have a larger health bar 4 times as long as yours!!!
Mon 30/07/01 at 19:44
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GasMask wrote:
> RastaBillySkank wrote:

The riders in Excitebike
> 64 crash
> :-D

Haven't played it.

I haven't bought an n64 for ages. My
> last one was in Christmas. Perfect Dark.

Saving all my cash for
> GameCube.
;)

Lol. Well I'm only going to buy one more game. I've already saved more than enough for a GC console and I've chosen 5 games for GAD wins, 3 of which are launch games. Seeing as I probably won't be able to get a GC console by itself I'll buy one with Luigi's Mansion and voila!!

Err... anyway, the only other game I'm getting for my 64 is gonna be Paper Mario. Seriosuly, if you EVER have enough money, buy Excitebike and Paper Mario. Excitebike is an AWESOME game and Paper Mario looks brilliant.
Mon 30/07/01 at 19:47
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RastaBillySkank wrote:
> GasMask wrote:
> RastaBillySkank wrote:

The riders in
> Excitebike
> 64 crash
> :-D

Haven't played it.

I
> haven't bought an n64 for ages. My
> last one was in Christmas.
> Perfect Dark.

Saving all my cash for
> GameCube.
;)

Lol.
> Well I'm only going to buy one more game. I've already saved more
> than enough for a GC console and I've chosen 5 games for GAD wins, 3
> of which are launch games. Seeing as I probably won't be able to get
> a GC console by itself I'll buy one with Luigi's Mansion and
> voila!!

Err... anyway, the only other game I'm getting for my 64
> is gonna be Paper Mario. Seriosuly, if you EVER have enough money,
> buy Excitebike and Paper Mario. Excitebike is an AWESOME game and
> Paper Mario looks brilliant.

I want to get maybe 1-2 games for my N64, but at the minute I am completely playing through all of my games and making sure everything that is possible has been done on them!!

And then it will probably be Indiana Jones and the Infernal machines, and Aidyn chronicles, which is actually not to shabby after renting it out.

Hopefully they should last me until I have a few GBA games and nearing the release of the GC!!

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