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Do you smoke? Well the chances are either you have done or you know someone that does smoke and you haven't given it too much thought as to why they smoke. I know a lot of people who smoke, and despite their personality, however 'sensible' they are, I will always feel that they are in some way letting themself down, and they lose a certain amount of respect in my view. It's a disgusting habit and all cigarette advertising should be banned, the government should outlaw it or at least raise the prices even higher - to something like £10 a packet, to help deter people from buying them.
If you smoke then quit. I know it may be hard to even contemplating giving up smoking, but I really hate the stench, the fowl disgusting aura of people who prefer to kill themselves now. Just phone those quit smoking hotlines, the people can help you! I know that a hell of a lot of people develop cancer as a result of smoking and I also know that the people who do smoke should quit. 'Why should I stop smoking?' Stupid question. Get an education you fool.
I detest everything associated with it. The smell, the scent of death not too far away, and the ethical issues with the cigarette companies - they make an incredible amount of money, and the tobacco growers get paid in potatoes most probably. How much is a packet of fags? Who cares, the price you actually pay isn't in sterling. You're paying your life - so don't go looking for sympathy when you discover you have cancer or something as a result of smoking - have the will power, do the right thing and start trying to quit. Don't give up giving up as they say. And that's the main thing - cut down, treat yourself to something really nice if you manage to leave of the fags for a week, and for your own sake, and your family - don't be so god damn ignorant that you won't even listen to other people's advice.
I'm sure you know someone who smokes, and suffers from health problems as a result. They may have the smokers cough, or similar, and in us women especially - our voices turn deep - like a bloke's. Disgusting. Wrinkles and aging take place faster and smoking people just reek! It's NOT cool, it certainly isn't trendy - it just shows that you don't have the guts to try and give up.
Cigarette smoking makes your clothes smell, make asthma sufferers lives hell, and just seem to be the most anti-social activity there is. 'I only smoke to fit in!' Yeah, but I bet you all do. So, why don't you all quit together and then you'll all fit in again? 'It helps my social life!' B****x. It helps destroy your REAL LIFE.
Forget the swearing, believe you can do it and you will. Don't give up you know it's true.
I have lost some very close family members to what I thought was cancer derived from smoking, it’s not the cigarettes that cause cancer - it’s your lack of will power.
“But I smoke because I enjoy it!” That has to be the most ridiculous thing a person can say – “I kill people because I enjoy it!” same thing – your killing yourself, if you enjoy the coughing, the bad throats, painful headaches, premature aging and that oh so horrid aroma, then well, you’re beyond a joke. Smoking is not cool. It’s an antisocial activity – I’m dead certain many of you probably smoke, just remember it’s never too late to quit – if you’re young and have been bullied into smoking, as many are from peer pressure, then my advice? Seek advice – get help, talk about it to a close friend, a relative, aunt, uncle – don’t let it take your money away.
I don’t want to offend anyone – and I know some really lovely people that smoke, but who am I to tell them how to live their lives? I can’t dictate the way they live but I can help them from dying – so I’m not afraid to have a ‘heated discussion’ about it, and even help them through it.
Here’s some pretty startling factual info – take it in…
• Tobacco use kills around 120,000 people in the UK every year, about 330 every day - as if a jumbo jet crashed every day and killed all its passengers, around 20% of all deaths.
• About half of all regular cigarette smokers will eventually be killed by their habit.
• Smoking causes at least 80% of all deaths from lung cancer, around 80% of all deaths from bronchitis and emphysema and around 17% of all deaths from heart disease.
• Thirty per cent of all cancer deaths can be attributed to smoking.
• Fewer than 10% of lung cancer patients survive five years after diagnosis.
• Men in the 15-64 age group in social class 5 are three times as likely to die of lung cancer as men in social class 1. Women in social class 5 are almost twice as likely to die of lung cancer as women in social class 1.
• Smokers who smoke between 1 and 14 cigarettes a day have eight times the risk of dying from lung cancer compared to non-smokers. Smokers who smoke more than 25 cigarettes a day have 25 times this risk compared to non-smokers.
• Cigarette smoking increases the risk of having a heart attack by two or three times, compared with the risk to non-smokers.
• About 90% of cases of peripheral vascular disease which lead to amputation of one or both legs are caused by smoking - about 2000 amputations a year in the UK.
• Women who smoke and take the contraceptive pill have 10 times the risk of a heart attack, stroke or other cardiovascular disease compared with those who take the pill but are non-smokers. Smoking has also been linked with an increased likelihood of menstrual problems (although not with PMT).
• Smoking leads to an earlier menopause: on average women smokers go through the menopause up to 2 years earlier than non-smokers and are at a greater risk of developing osteoporosis.
• Smoking has been associated with increased sperm abnormalities and with impotence in men.
§ Smoking during pregnancy leads to an increased risk of:
- spontaneous abortion (miscarriage);
- bleeding during pregnancy;
- premature birth;
- low weight of babies at birth (which is associated with greater risks of ill-health and failure to thrive);
- Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (cot death).
• The risks of smoking pipes and cigars compared to cigarettes are difficult to assess - it depends on whether the smoker inhales the smoke or not. Smokers who inhale pipe and cigar smoke are just as much at risk of developing lung cancer as cigarette smokers. All cigar and pipe smokers have a higher risk than anyone else of developing cancers of the lip, mouth and throat. This risk is even greater if the smoker is also a heavy drinker.
• People who smoke and drink alcohol regularly are at greater risk of mouth and throat cancers. One study found that among consumers of both products the risk of these cancers was increased more than 35-fold among those who smoked forty or more cigarettes a day and took more than four alcoholic drinks a day.
• There are some little-publicised health problems associated with smoking. It can affect both your sense of taste and smell. Smokers are more likely to develop facial wrinkles at a younger age and have dental hygiene problems. Stomach ulcers are made worse by smoking, and wounds, including surgical incisions, in smokers take longer to heal.
• Teenage smokers experience more asthma and respiratory symptoms than non-smokers, suffer poorer health, have more school absences and are less fit.
• Giving up smoking can reduce the risk of developing many of these problems. Within 10-15 years of giving up smoking, an ex-smoker's risk of developing lung cancer is only slightly greater than that of a non-smoker. A young smoker suffering from bronchitis or emphysema who gives up may see some improvement in lung function as a result: damage to lungs caused by years of smoking is permanent but quitting smoking prevents it worsening.
• It is estimated that several hundred cases of lung cancer and several thousand cases of heart disease in non-smokers in the UK every year are caused by passive smoking.
• Exposure to other people's tobacco smoke has also been linked with the following health problems in adults:
- increased sensitivity and reduced lung function in asthmatics;
- irritation of the eye, nose and throat;
- reduced lung function in adults with no chronic chest problems.
• Passive smoking also harms babies and children, with an increased risk of lower respiratory tract infection, increased severity of asthma symptoms, more frequent occurrence of chronic coughs, phlegm and wheezing, and increased risk of cot death and chronic middle ear effusion (glue ear).
• More than 17,000 children under the age of five are admitted to hospital every year because of the effects of passive smoking.
Don’t die from this, please.
If you smoke then quit. I know it may be hard to even contemplating giving up smoking, but I really hate the stench, the fowl disgusting aura of people who prefer to kill themselves now. Just phone those quit smoking hotlines, the people can help you! I know that a hell of a lot of people develop cancer as a result of smoking and I also know that the people who do smoke should quit. 'Why should I stop smoking?' Stupid question. Get an education you fool.
I detest everything associated with it. The smell, the scent of death not too far away, and the ethical issues with the cigarette companies - they make an incredible amount of money, and the tobacco growers get paid in potatoes most probably. How much is a packet of fags? Who cares, the price you actually pay isn't in sterling. You're paying your life - so don't go looking for sympathy when you discover you have cancer or something as a result of smoking - have the will power, do the right thing and start trying to quit. Don't give up giving up as they say. And that's the main thing - cut down, treat yourself to something really nice if you manage to leave of the fags for a week, and for your own sake, and your family - don't be so god damn ignorant that you won't even listen to other people's advice.
I'm sure you know someone who smokes, and suffers from health problems as a result. They may have the smokers cough, or similar, and in us women especially - our voices turn deep - like a bloke's. Disgusting. Wrinkles and aging take place faster and smoking people just reek! It's NOT cool, it certainly isn't trendy - it just shows that you don't have the guts to try and give up.
Cigarette smoking makes your clothes smell, make asthma sufferers lives hell, and just seem to be the most anti-social activity there is. 'I only smoke to fit in!' Yeah, but I bet you all do. So, why don't you all quit together and then you'll all fit in again? 'It helps my social life!' B****x. It helps destroy your REAL LIFE.
Forget the swearing, believe you can do it and you will. Don't give up you know it's true.
I have lost some very close family members to what I thought was cancer derived from smoking, it’s not the cigarettes that cause cancer - it’s your lack of will power.
“But I smoke because I enjoy it!” That has to be the most ridiculous thing a person can say – “I kill people because I enjoy it!” same thing – your killing yourself, if you enjoy the coughing, the bad throats, painful headaches, premature aging and that oh so horrid aroma, then well, you’re beyond a joke. Smoking is not cool. It’s an antisocial activity – I’m dead certain many of you probably smoke, just remember it’s never too late to quit – if you’re young and have been bullied into smoking, as many are from peer pressure, then my advice? Seek advice – get help, talk about it to a close friend, a relative, aunt, uncle – don’t let it take your money away.
I don’t want to offend anyone – and I know some really lovely people that smoke, but who am I to tell them how to live their lives? I can’t dictate the way they live but I can help them from dying – so I’m not afraid to have a ‘heated discussion’ about it, and even help them through it.
Here’s some pretty startling factual info – take it in…
• Tobacco use kills around 120,000 people in the UK every year, about 330 every day - as if a jumbo jet crashed every day and killed all its passengers, around 20% of all deaths.
• About half of all regular cigarette smokers will eventually be killed by their habit.
• Smoking causes at least 80% of all deaths from lung cancer, around 80% of all deaths from bronchitis and emphysema and around 17% of all deaths from heart disease.
• Thirty per cent of all cancer deaths can be attributed to smoking.
• Fewer than 10% of lung cancer patients survive five years after diagnosis.
• Men in the 15-64 age group in social class 5 are three times as likely to die of lung cancer as men in social class 1. Women in social class 5 are almost twice as likely to die of lung cancer as women in social class 1.
• Smokers who smoke between 1 and 14 cigarettes a day have eight times the risk of dying from lung cancer compared to non-smokers. Smokers who smoke more than 25 cigarettes a day have 25 times this risk compared to non-smokers.
• Cigarette smoking increases the risk of having a heart attack by two or three times, compared with the risk to non-smokers.
• About 90% of cases of peripheral vascular disease which lead to amputation of one or both legs are caused by smoking - about 2000 amputations a year in the UK.
• Women who smoke and take the contraceptive pill have 10 times the risk of a heart attack, stroke or other cardiovascular disease compared with those who take the pill but are non-smokers. Smoking has also been linked with an increased likelihood of menstrual problems (although not with PMT).
• Smoking leads to an earlier menopause: on average women smokers go through the menopause up to 2 years earlier than non-smokers and are at a greater risk of developing osteoporosis.
• Smoking has been associated with increased sperm abnormalities and with impotence in men.
§ Smoking during pregnancy leads to an increased risk of:
- spontaneous abortion (miscarriage);
- bleeding during pregnancy;
- premature birth;
- low weight of babies at birth (which is associated with greater risks of ill-health and failure to thrive);
- Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (cot death).
• The risks of smoking pipes and cigars compared to cigarettes are difficult to assess - it depends on whether the smoker inhales the smoke or not. Smokers who inhale pipe and cigar smoke are just as much at risk of developing lung cancer as cigarette smokers. All cigar and pipe smokers have a higher risk than anyone else of developing cancers of the lip, mouth and throat. This risk is even greater if the smoker is also a heavy drinker.
• People who smoke and drink alcohol regularly are at greater risk of mouth and throat cancers. One study found that among consumers of both products the risk of these cancers was increased more than 35-fold among those who smoked forty or more cigarettes a day and took more than four alcoholic drinks a day.
• There are some little-publicised health problems associated with smoking. It can affect both your sense of taste and smell. Smokers are more likely to develop facial wrinkles at a younger age and have dental hygiene problems. Stomach ulcers are made worse by smoking, and wounds, including surgical incisions, in smokers take longer to heal.
• Teenage smokers experience more asthma and respiratory symptoms than non-smokers, suffer poorer health, have more school absences and are less fit.
• Giving up smoking can reduce the risk of developing many of these problems. Within 10-15 years of giving up smoking, an ex-smoker's risk of developing lung cancer is only slightly greater than that of a non-smoker. A young smoker suffering from bronchitis or emphysema who gives up may see some improvement in lung function as a result: damage to lungs caused by years of smoking is permanent but quitting smoking prevents it worsening.
• It is estimated that several hundred cases of lung cancer and several thousand cases of heart disease in non-smokers in the UK every year are caused by passive smoking.
• Exposure to other people's tobacco smoke has also been linked with the following health problems in adults:
- increased sensitivity and reduced lung function in asthmatics;
- irritation of the eye, nose and throat;
- reduced lung function in adults with no chronic chest problems.
• Passive smoking also harms babies and children, with an increased risk of lower respiratory tract infection, increased severity of asthma symptoms, more frequent occurrence of chronic coughs, phlegm and wheezing, and increased risk of cot death and chronic middle ear effusion (glue ear).
• More than 17,000 children under the age of five are admitted to hospital every year because of the effects of passive smoking.
Don’t die from this, please.
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yeh thx i didnt think any one would say that at all....
My point is (im sorry you couldnt understand this)
Is that we were all polite enough to allow her, she knew very well that no one wanted her to smoke (theyre only kidding themselves when they ask), but she still had to make us feel awkward just because she couldnt go five mins without feeding her addiction
My point is (im sorry you couldnt understand this)
Is that we were all polite enough to allow her, she knew very well that no one wanted her to smoke (theyre only kidding themselves when they ask), but she still had to make us feel awkward just because she couldnt go five mins without feeding her addiction
Damn straight DavidD - "again how dare she." Answer? because you said it was ok...now who hasn't got the will power?
Many people feel strongly about this.
Take cover - Goatboy will reply...!!!
>Dan scampers away, and sits in a rock, hidden from the outside world, watching Goatboy knaw away at DavidD's ankles - then notices a demonic puffin sitting beside him<
Blah Blah Blah
Many people feel strongly about this.
Take cover - Goatboy will reply...!!!
>Dan scampers away, and sits in a rock, hidden from the outside world, watching Goatboy knaw away at DavidD's ankles - then notices a demonic puffin sitting beside him<
Blah Blah Blah
I find smoking to be pathetic and just shows a weak will.
People who smoke gain no benefits from it.
Smokers hardly ever care if there smoke is making someone feel ill they have a "its a free country attitude" which it is but you dont see me going up to you and breathing in your face after ive had say garlic do you ?
no cos its damn right rude.
As for it being a free country, if in a public place im sitting down and im expected to move because someone sits next to me and starts to smoke i no longer have teh choice as to wether i do or dont smoke in that spot at that time,
the person has made up my mind for me.
How GODDAMN DARE they.
At a meal with my freinds out of 11 of us one of us wants to smoke and asks is it ok fo rme to smoke "every" single one of us didnt want her to smoke but we all said its ok because we feel out of order for sayin no. She couldnt care that we have to put up with it but i bet that if i had said "yes i dont wont you to smoke" she would have been
p$%$ed with me. again how dare she.
When people say they enjoy smoking all they enjoy is the
temporary relievance of teh symptoms of addiction smoking.
The best ive heard is that it calms a persons nerves.
LOL at the sad saps.
If you weren't addicted in the first place your nerves would be fine.
Dont get me wrong of course i have freinds and family who smoke and for some of these i put up with it because everything isnt black and white but its the attitude that its more of a right for a smoker to smoke than what it is for me not to breath without feeling ill
People who smoke gain no benefits from it.
Smokers hardly ever care if there smoke is making someone feel ill they have a "its a free country attitude" which it is but you dont see me going up to you and breathing in your face after ive had say garlic do you ?
no cos its damn right rude.
As for it being a free country, if in a public place im sitting down and im expected to move because someone sits next to me and starts to smoke i no longer have teh choice as to wether i do or dont smoke in that spot at that time,
the person has made up my mind for me.
How GODDAMN DARE they.
At a meal with my freinds out of 11 of us one of us wants to smoke and asks is it ok fo rme to smoke "every" single one of us didnt want her to smoke but we all said its ok because we feel out of order for sayin no. She couldnt care that we have to put up with it but i bet that if i had said "yes i dont wont you to smoke" she would have been
p$%$ed with me. again how dare she.
When people say they enjoy smoking all they enjoy is the
temporary relievance of teh symptoms of addiction smoking.
The best ive heard is that it calms a persons nerves.
LOL at the sad saps.
If you weren't addicted in the first place your nerves would be fine.
Dont get me wrong of course i have freinds and family who smoke and for some of these i put up with it because everything isnt black and white but its the attitude that its more of a right for a smoker to smoke than what it is for me not to breath without feeling ill
Ironic title,
Interesting post,
My view?
I read "Goatboy's" posts here - he and "Dan2K1" seem to make the most sense - my view on public smoking
Well, if you smoke then you may not be allowed to smoke in the home, I don't smoke, but I have nothing against smokers, yes it does kill, and yes it is bad for you, but many smokers are lovely people. But where can smokers smoke?
FOR smoking in public places:
Those who smoke need to smoke because it is addictive, and maybe they will need to smoke in a public place, there may not be any other places available for them to smoke.
Some people smoke to socialise, and often in pubs many people smoke, I think the idea of having smoking and non smoking sections in restaurants is a good policy - that way those who wish to smoke can do so, those who wish to stay away, do not have to.
Smoking in general, should not be banned completely - that would be stupid as smoking brings the government much, much money for spending on the country, but smoking does kill - it is very controversial as I have said.
AGAINST smoking in public places:
Those who do not smoke, or suffer from the smoke given out will not want to inhale this in a public place, it does smell foul, and it could damage them. People with asthma will want a ban most probably.
Smoking in public could be seen as rude - if no one else is smoking, then perhaps if you are on a bus or something then you will not appreciate one person lighting up and making the bus fumigated.
Suggestions?
In public places such as towns and shopping centres there are already some restrictions - enclosed areas yes, they should ban smoking, but open air it's not so bad I feel.
Smoking on public transport is already banned, but many people do like to smoke anyway, so an outright ban is not the way to go about it.
Thanks for reading
Interesting post,
My view?
I read "Goatboy's" posts here - he and "Dan2K1" seem to make the most sense - my view on public smoking
Well, if you smoke then you may not be allowed to smoke in the home, I don't smoke, but I have nothing against smokers, yes it does kill, and yes it is bad for you, but many smokers are lovely people. But where can smokers smoke?
FOR smoking in public places:
Those who smoke need to smoke because it is addictive, and maybe they will need to smoke in a public place, there may not be any other places available for them to smoke.
Some people smoke to socialise, and often in pubs many people smoke, I think the idea of having smoking and non smoking sections in restaurants is a good policy - that way those who wish to smoke can do so, those who wish to stay away, do not have to.
Smoking in general, should not be banned completely - that would be stupid as smoking brings the government much, much money for spending on the country, but smoking does kill - it is very controversial as I have said.
AGAINST smoking in public places:
Those who do not smoke, or suffer from the smoke given out will not want to inhale this in a public place, it does smell foul, and it could damage them. People with asthma will want a ban most probably.
Smoking in public could be seen as rude - if no one else is smoking, then perhaps if you are on a bus or something then you will not appreciate one person lighting up and making the bus fumigated.
Suggestions?
In public places such as towns and shopping centres there are already some restrictions - enclosed areas yes, they should ban smoking, but open air it's not so bad I feel.
Smoking on public transport is already banned, but many people do like to smoke anyway, so an outright ban is not the way to go about it.
Thanks for reading
And so say all of us.
We smoke because we enjoy it, that simple.
We smoke because we enjoy it, that simple.
I smoke and have done on and off for about a year and a half. It feels good, so I do it. As for the health problems I'm planning on someone finding a cure for cancer in the next 30 years. If they don't... well at least I enjoyed my life.
Would I stop smoking if I had a kid?
Don't know.
I do know that I wouldn't smoke around it - that's not on. Much the same as I don't smoke anywhere except my house, my car or a restaurant after eating if it has a seperate smoking section and nobody else is eating nearby.
When I'm at my girlfriend's place, I go sit outside because she doesn't, and I don't want her home smelling of fags.
My mum quit after 40 years, she used Zyban and stopped just like that *clicks fingers*
So it can be done, this is a woman that has gone from 20-30 a day to 0 for the past 4 months.
I'm proud of her and tell her so, but I just don't want to give up.
It's not easy to understand if you're a non-smoker, imagine someone told you to give up your car.
It's the same thing, essential if you're addicted, and you can always take a bus.
I take great pain to ensure I don't inflict my smoking on other people, but I do resent it when people start moaning, because it's never to my face. (this is in general, not at anyone here that has posted, so don't worry).
If you are going to come up to me and start getting in my face, we'll got toe to toe and discuss why you are wearing logo clothes made by children, or leather coats...everyone has an aspect of them that can be criticised.
But smoking, lately, has been the thing it's ok to persecute and despise.
Well, I'm standing up for smokers everywhere.
Leave us alone, we pay for them, we smoke them, we die of cancer.
I'm happy with that, it's my body, my choice and my money.
Don't know.
I do know that I wouldn't smoke around it - that's not on. Much the same as I don't smoke anywhere except my house, my car or a restaurant after eating if it has a seperate smoking section and nobody else is eating nearby.
When I'm at my girlfriend's place, I go sit outside because she doesn't, and I don't want her home smelling of fags.
My mum quit after 40 years, she used Zyban and stopped just like that *clicks fingers*
So it can be done, this is a woman that has gone from 20-30 a day to 0 for the past 4 months.
I'm proud of her and tell her so, but I just don't want to give up.
It's not easy to understand if you're a non-smoker, imagine someone told you to give up your car.
It's the same thing, essential if you're addicted, and you can always take a bus.
I take great pain to ensure I don't inflict my smoking on other people, but I do resent it when people start moaning, because it's never to my face. (this is in general, not at anyone here that has posted, so don't worry).
If you are going to come up to me and start getting in my face, we'll got toe to toe and discuss why you are wearing logo clothes made by children, or leather coats...everyone has an aspect of them that can be criticised.
But smoking, lately, has been the thing it's ok to persecute and despise.
Well, I'm standing up for smokers everywhere.
Leave us alone, we pay for them, we smoke them, we die of cancer.
I'm happy with that, it's my body, my choice and my money.
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