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Sat 28/07/01 at 01:17
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Do you smoke? Well the chances are either you have done or you know someone that does smoke and you haven't given it too much thought as to why they smoke. I know a lot of people who smoke, and despite their personality, however 'sensible' they are, I will always feel that they are in some way letting themself down, and they lose a certain amount of respect in my view. It's a disgusting habit and all cigarette advertising should be banned, the government should outlaw it or at least raise the prices even higher - to something like £10 a packet, to help deter people from buying them.

If you smoke then quit. I know it may be hard to even contemplating giving up smoking, but I really hate the stench, the fowl disgusting aura of people who prefer to kill themselves now. Just phone those quit smoking hotlines, the people can help you! I know that a hell of a lot of people develop cancer as a result of smoking and I also know that the people who do smoke should quit. 'Why should I stop smoking?' Stupid question. Get an education you fool.

I detest everything associated with it. The smell, the scent of death not too far away, and the ethical issues with the cigarette companies - they make an incredible amount of money, and the tobacco growers get paid in potatoes most probably. How much is a packet of fags? Who cares, the price you actually pay isn't in sterling. You're paying your life - so don't go looking for sympathy when you discover you have cancer or something as a result of smoking - have the will power, do the right thing and start trying to quit. Don't give up giving up as they say. And that's the main thing - cut down, treat yourself to something really nice if you manage to leave of the fags for a week, and for your own sake, and your family - don't be so god damn ignorant that you won't even listen to other people's advice.

I'm sure you know someone who smokes, and suffers from health problems as a result. They may have the smokers cough, or similar, and in us women especially - our voices turn deep - like a bloke's. Disgusting. Wrinkles and aging take place faster and smoking people just reek! It's NOT cool, it certainly isn't trendy - it just shows that you don't have the guts to try and give up.

Cigarette smoking makes your clothes smell, make asthma sufferers lives hell, and just seem to be the most anti-social activity there is. 'I only smoke to fit in!' Yeah, but I bet you all do. So, why don't you all quit together and then you'll all fit in again? 'It helps my social life!' B****x. It helps destroy your REAL LIFE.

Forget the swearing, believe you can do it and you will. Don't give up you know it's true.

I have lost some very close family members to what I thought was cancer derived from smoking, it’s not the cigarettes that cause cancer - it’s your lack of will power.

“But I smoke because I enjoy it!” That has to be the most ridiculous thing a person can say – “I kill people because I enjoy it!” same thing – your killing yourself, if you enjoy the coughing, the bad throats, painful headaches, premature aging and that oh so horrid aroma, then well, you’re beyond a joke. Smoking is not cool. It’s an antisocial activity – I’m dead certain many of you probably smoke, just remember it’s never too late to quit – if you’re young and have been bullied into smoking, as many are from peer pressure, then my advice? Seek advice – get help, talk about it to a close friend, a relative, aunt, uncle – don’t let it take your money away.

I don’t want to offend anyone – and I know some really lovely people that smoke, but who am I to tell them how to live their lives? I can’t dictate the way they live but I can help them from dying – so I’m not afraid to have a ‘heated discussion’ about it, and even help them through it.


Here’s some pretty startling factual info – take it in…

• Tobacco use kills around 120,000 people in the UK every year, about 330 every day - as if a jumbo jet crashed every day and killed all its passengers, around 20% of all deaths.

• About half of all regular cigarette smokers will eventually be killed by their habit.

• Smoking causes at least 80% of all deaths from lung cancer, around 80% of all deaths from bronchitis and emphysema and around 17% of all deaths from heart disease.

• Thirty per cent of all cancer deaths can be attributed to smoking.

• Fewer than 10% of lung cancer patients survive five years after diagnosis.

• Men in the 15-64 age group in social class 5 are three times as likely to die of lung cancer as men in social class 1. Women in social class 5 are almost twice as likely to die of lung cancer as women in social class 1.

• Smokers who smoke between 1 and 14 cigarettes a day have eight times the risk of dying from lung cancer compared to non-smokers. Smokers who smoke more than 25 cigarettes a day have 25 times this risk compared to non-smokers.

• Cigarette smoking increases the risk of having a heart attack by two or three times, compared with the risk to non-smokers.

• About 90% of cases of peripheral vascular disease which lead to amputation of one or both legs are caused by smoking - about 2000 amputations a year in the UK.

• Women who smoke and take the contraceptive pill have 10 times the risk of a heart attack, stroke or other cardiovascular disease compared with those who take the pill but are non-smokers. Smoking has also been linked with an increased likelihood of menstrual problems (although not with PMT).

• Smoking leads to an earlier menopause: on average women smokers go through the menopause up to 2 years earlier than non-smokers and are at a greater risk of developing osteoporosis.

• Smoking has been associated with increased sperm abnormalities and with impotence in men.

§ Smoking during pregnancy leads to an increased risk of:

- spontaneous abortion (miscarriage);
- bleeding during pregnancy;
- premature birth;
- low weight of babies at birth (which is associated with greater risks of ill-health and failure to thrive);
- Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (cot death).

• The risks of smoking pipes and cigars compared to cigarettes are difficult to assess - it depends on whether the smoker inhales the smoke or not. Smokers who inhale pipe and cigar smoke are just as much at risk of developing lung cancer as cigarette smokers. All cigar and pipe smokers have a higher risk than anyone else of developing cancers of the lip, mouth and throat. This risk is even greater if the smoker is also a heavy drinker.

• People who smoke and drink alcohol regularly are at greater risk of mouth and throat cancers. One study found that among consumers of both products the risk of these cancers was increased more than 35-fold among those who smoked forty or more cigarettes a day and took more than four alcoholic drinks a day.

• There are some little-publicised health problems associated with smoking. It can affect both your sense of taste and smell. Smokers are more likely to develop facial wrinkles at a younger age and have dental hygiene problems. Stomach ulcers are made worse by smoking, and wounds, including surgical incisions, in smokers take longer to heal.

• Teenage smokers experience more asthma and respiratory symptoms than non-smokers, suffer poorer health, have more school absences and are less fit.

• Giving up smoking can reduce the risk of developing many of these problems. Within 10-15 years of giving up smoking, an ex-smoker's risk of developing lung cancer is only slightly greater than that of a non-smoker. A young smoker suffering from bronchitis or emphysema who gives up may see some improvement in lung function as a result: damage to lungs caused by years of smoking is permanent but quitting smoking prevents it worsening.

• It is estimated that several hundred cases of lung cancer and several thousand cases of heart disease in non-smokers in the UK every year are caused by passive smoking.

• Exposure to other people's tobacco smoke has also been linked with the following health problems in adults:

- increased sensitivity and reduced lung function in asthmatics;
- irritation of the eye, nose and throat;
- reduced lung function in adults with no chronic chest problems.

• Passive smoking also harms babies and children, with an increased risk of lower respiratory tract infection, increased severity of asthma symptoms, more frequent occurrence of chronic coughs, phlegm and wheezing, and increased risk of cot death and chronic middle ear effusion (glue ear).

• More than 17,000 children under the age of five are admitted to hospital every year because of the effects of passive smoking.

Don’t die from this, please.
Sun 05/08/01 at 04:35
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Yep!
Sun 05/08/01 at 02:26
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It shouldn't be banned. Everyone knows the risk, and if they chose to do it, what right does anyone else have to stop them.
Passive smoking? If people know somewhere is a smoking environment, and chose to go there, again they know the risk and take it of their free will. Maybe there's an argument to ban it around children, and especially babies, eg, in the home. But a total ban is slightly insane. Maybe we need to produce a master race of non-smokers through eugenics too, and they could all be athletic geniuses with blonde hair and blue eyes...

But then again i suppose my argument boils down to if they are stupid enough to smoke, they deserve to die. Which is a little nuts. Still, in the absence of a suitable feuhrer it'll have to do.
Sat 04/08/01 at 16:29
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I agree with Sally. Smoking should be banned. It affects us all and it kills. It also leads to pollution. The only saving grace is the money it brings in for the treasury. But that is not a big enough plus side.
Wed 01/08/01 at 12:03
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Ozzy is God - and what's strange about chasing people around the street with a baguette?
Wed 01/08/01 at 10:31
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Smoking is a personal choice.

It's not illegal, and therefore just your opinion.
Same as if I decided to stand on a corner and scream that Ozzy was God and chase people waving a baguette.
Wed 01/08/01 at 10:29
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Yes, they are true facts BigSally, but as the late Bill Hicks once said;

"Non-smokers die everyday..."
Wed 01/08/01 at 08:45
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I tried smoking. I didn't appeal.

Many of my friend smoke. If I'm in a pub with them, I won't ask them to stop, I will send them outside to smoke when they visit my house though.

That's because I have a couple of lil kiddy-wids.

My wife used to be a smoker, but she quit when she became pregnant. It made her feel sick, so it was pretty easy for her. luckily she hasn't gone back to it, as to be honest, we really don'y have the money!

But hey if you enjoy it, fine.

Just one question though:

How come police officers have been known to pull over drivers for having a drink from a bottle of cola whilst driving, or eating a chocolate bar, but it's quite fine to hold a cigarette?

Or even quite fine to LIGHT a cigarette whilst you drive?

Surely this is more dangerous than having a quick drink. Oh and I mean non-alcoholic drink. Or popping a bit of KitKat into your mouth?

Isn't it?
Tue 31/07/01 at 10:21
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I was watching a program lkast night on smoking in public places. They were trying to ban smoking in restaurants and bars as well as on the streets. What would a smoker do if that was the case? Go home for a cigarete? I like the idea of smoking and non-smoking sections so you have a choice but not the idea of bans.
Mon 30/07/01 at 23:50
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Lol
Mon 30/07/01 at 23:47
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Out cycling (and having a sneaky cigarette)

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