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1) What speed is the optimum Live connection? i.e, what minimum does it need to run without too much lag etc?
2) Any dodgy ISPs?
3) Can I order a Brodband package now, and then activate it in a week or so when my line is activated? I.e plug everything in, and then 'activate' a BB account on the same day the lines are activated.
4) Why did the 2-month free trial have to expire end of March? B*stards.
2) Any dodgy ISPs?
3) Can I order a Brodband package now, and then activate it in a week or so when my line is activated? I.e plug everything in, and then 'activate' a BB account on the same day the lines are activated.
4) Why did the 2-month free trial have to expire end of March? B*stards.
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Can't speak for all brands, but with the Origo router, when that orange light flashes, that is you connected.
The WAN connection is the Wide Area Network, as opposed to a Local Area Network. And the biggest WAN in the world is of course the internet. So if it is getting information from it, then it does seem you are connected.
If you didn't try it already, just have a go. Worst comes to worst you won't get anywhere.
The WAN connection is the Wide Area Network, as opposed to a Local Area Network. And the biggest WAN in the world is of course the internet. So if it is getting information from it, then it does seem you are connected.
If you didn't try it already, just have a go. Worst comes to worst you won't get anywhere.
ooo. The 'Link' light on my router is on. Hmm. In the manual it says - -this means the router is recieving information from the WAN connection'.
Muh? I wanty to play. My friends connection was activated a week earlier than anyone was expecting...maybe me too?
Muh? I wanty to play. My friends connection was activated a week earlier than anyone was expecting...maybe me too?
Monday is the date my line shall finally be activated, so I finally will be on Live from Monday. Yay.
Yeah there was one with my Origo router as well. But it was grey, so I replaced it with luminescent blue. Luminescent green for the PC. And a luminescent purple crossover cable for system link.
They were cheap, it isn't a fashion statement.
They were cheap, it isn't a fashion statement.
Cyclone wrote:
> Just ordering stuff now, should be on Live next weekend.
>
> Final, final question - the router - does it come with cables, or do
> I need to buy two cables to link the router to the PC and Xbox, or
> one?
you usually get a cable with it, I got one with my linksys one.
> Just ordering stuff now, should be on Live next weekend.
>
> Final, final question - the router - does it come with cables, or do
> I need to buy two cables to link the router to the PC and Xbox, or
> one?
you usually get a cable with it, I got one with my linksys one.
Just ordering stuff now, should be on Live next weekend.
Final, final question - the router - does it come with cables, or do I need to buy two cables to link the router to the PC and Xbox, or one?
Final, final question - the router - does it come with cables, or do I need to buy two cables to link the router to the PC and Xbox, or one?
Yup that's it. With the origo routers it as simple as typing your username and password into the router, which saves it, and that is you.
Been exploring my PC.
I have an Ethernet port on the back, and henceforth I logically guess I have a network card lodged in there somewhere, which is useful. Therefore, this is my perception over the whole thing;
ADSL from the phone socket ---> Into the router ----> one cable leading to the PC Ethernet port ---> a second leading to the Xbox Ethernet port ---> Live sign up.
Plus sorting out the network on the PC, but that'll be easy I'm guessing.
I have an Ethernet port on the back, and henceforth I logically guess I have a network card lodged in there somewhere, which is useful. Therefore, this is my perception over the whole thing;
ADSL from the phone socket ---> Into the router ----> one cable leading to the PC Ethernet port ---> a second leading to the Xbox Ethernet port ---> Live sign up.
Plus sorting out the network on the PC, but that'll be easy I'm guessing.
Thanks NB, that's exactly what I needed.
Now I need money.
Lame.
Cheers.
Now I need money.
Lame.
Cheers.
OK well some questions then.
ADSL? Or cable? Or wireless?
If you get ADSL, which I assume you would, most likely you would get a standard USB modem. Well, see, that won't really do.
A USB modem will only plug into a USB port on a computer. Now you CAN do it like this if you use something called ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). This is quite simple in theory, you have an internet connection on the PC and you connect another PC (or Xbox) to it using a cable.
It works, but you need some stuff. First up you need a network card. Some computers come supplied with them, some don't. It'll have a port like the one on the back of the Xbox, normally with an LED next to it. If you have one of these, all you need is a crossover cable.
Crossover cables are like normal ethernet/network/RJ45 cables, but have the wires inside crossed over, so that two computers can be linked directly. Normal cables only work via a router or switch.
However, there are downsides to this seemingly simple method. The main one is that you would need the PC on whenever you go on Live.
Once in a blue moon, you get ethernet ADSL modems. They connect via an ethernet socket, this being on the network card. These are rare, though cable modems nearly always connect like this. With one of these you would just unplug the modem from the PC and plug it into the Xbox and bingo. I have to confess, I'm not sure whether that would be a normal network cable or a cross over cable, but it wouldn't matter as it would come with it.
What most people use though is a router. This lets you build your own little network. You have an internet connection into the router (I'll come back to this in a minute) and from the router, wires to each of the PCs. Or Xboxes. Or PS2s. Normal network cables incidentally.
So, lesson number 84: Routers.
You can get routers that don't have their own modem, all they do is take in an internet connection and share it out amongst other PCs. These are the cheapest, but you will need an ethernet modem to connect into it to give you this possibility.
The easier option is the router with the build in ADSL modem. That way all you do is plug a wire into the router, and the other end into the phone socket. Then you take network cables straight from the router to the PCs, where they connect via network cards.
I would recommend this: [Removed: Advertising other sites]. I recommended it to Alastair. He seems to find it OK. And to Hedfix as well. I have the bigger brother, the wireless version, which is great when I don't open it up and play with the innards.
If you don't have a network card: [Removed: Advertising other sites]
And of course: [Removed: Advertising other sites].
That's the best way of doing it as far as most sane people are concerned. Never tried ICS with Windows XP, with Windows ME it refused to work, even when I did really hard core techy things to it.
Any questions just ask.
ADSL? Or cable? Or wireless?
If you get ADSL, which I assume you would, most likely you would get a standard USB modem. Well, see, that won't really do.
A USB modem will only plug into a USB port on a computer. Now you CAN do it like this if you use something called ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). This is quite simple in theory, you have an internet connection on the PC and you connect another PC (or Xbox) to it using a cable.
It works, but you need some stuff. First up you need a network card. Some computers come supplied with them, some don't. It'll have a port like the one on the back of the Xbox, normally with an LED next to it. If you have one of these, all you need is a crossover cable.
Crossover cables are like normal ethernet/network/RJ45 cables, but have the wires inside crossed over, so that two computers can be linked directly. Normal cables only work via a router or switch.
However, there are downsides to this seemingly simple method. The main one is that you would need the PC on whenever you go on Live.
Once in a blue moon, you get ethernet ADSL modems. They connect via an ethernet socket, this being on the network card. These are rare, though cable modems nearly always connect like this. With one of these you would just unplug the modem from the PC and plug it into the Xbox and bingo. I have to confess, I'm not sure whether that would be a normal network cable or a cross over cable, but it wouldn't matter as it would come with it.
What most people use though is a router. This lets you build your own little network. You have an internet connection into the router (I'll come back to this in a minute) and from the router, wires to each of the PCs. Or Xboxes. Or PS2s. Normal network cables incidentally.
So, lesson number 84: Routers.
You can get routers that don't have their own modem, all they do is take in an internet connection and share it out amongst other PCs. These are the cheapest, but you will need an ethernet modem to connect into it to give you this possibility.
The easier option is the router with the build in ADSL modem. That way all you do is plug a wire into the router, and the other end into the phone socket. Then you take network cables straight from the router to the PCs, where they connect via network cards.
I would recommend this: [Removed: Advertising other sites]. I recommended it to Alastair. He seems to find it OK. And to Hedfix as well. I have the bigger brother, the wireless version, which is great when I don't open it up and play with the innards.
If you don't have a network card: [Removed: Advertising other sites]
And of course: [Removed: Advertising other sites].
That's the best way of doing it as far as most sane people are concerned. Never tried ICS with Windows XP, with Windows ME it refused to work, even when I did really hard core techy things to it.
Any questions just ask.
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