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Yes, you heard me... Sega are the FOG. The reason? Well... think of it like this. There is a games market of 100million people out there. Pretty big eh. However, until now Sega could only sell games to the 6million people with a DC. oh.
Now that's changed. Sega are one of the biggest developers in the world. Think about it. They have 10 departments. Each one can produce twice as many games as a normal developer. Want more proof? Name a genre. Now, think of games that are the best in the genre... one of these will be a sega game.
It is estimates that by 2003 Sega will be the second biggest games publisher in the world after Ninty. Overtaking Namco in the process.
That company is going places... might even buy shares in them:)
Sonic
Now that's changed. Sega are one of the biggest developers in the world. Think about it. They have 10 departments. Each one can produce twice as many games as a normal developer. Want more proof? Name a genre. Now, think of games that are the best in the genre... one of these will be a sega game.
It is estimates that by 2003 Sega will be the second biggest games publisher in the world after Ninty. Overtaking Namco in the process.
That company is going places... might even buy shares in them:)
Sonic
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AM1: Wow Entertainment
AM2: (Kept original name)
AM3: Hitmaker
AM4: Amusement Vision
AM5: Sega Rosso
AM6: Smilebit
AM7: Overworks
AM8: Sonic Team (yey!)
AM9: United Game Artists.
Aren't I knowledgable?
AM2: (Kept original name)
AM3: Hitmaker
AM4: Amusement Vision
AM5: Sega Rosso
AM6: Smilebit
AM7: Overworks
AM8: Sonic Team (yey!)
AM9: United Game Artists.
Aren't I knowledgable?
Wòókiee Møn§†€R wrote:
BLAH BLAH...
soory about that wookie... my mistake.
Sonic
BLAH BLAH...
soory about that wookie... my mistake.
Sonic
SonicRav wrote:
> Actually Wookie, you have made a grave
> error. I was talking about Sega's 2k and 2k1 series. Like NBA2k1,
> NFL2k1, and the hockey one.
Not reall an error, as you didn't state which games you were talking about.
> All of which were very similar to EAs
> games, and (from what I've heard) superior over all
Not being a particular fan of Sega's, I don't really keep up with their software, so - fair enough - I'm unable to comment on the '2K1' series.
Before anyone jumps on me, I don't *dislike* Sega, I've just found that their games generally don't appeal to me. I do still own a Game Gear, but haven't played it for years. The same applies to Nintendo, though I did also own an original Gameboy.
> Actually Wookie, you have made a grave
> error. I was talking about Sega's 2k and 2k1 series. Like NBA2k1,
> NFL2k1, and the hockey one.
Not reall an error, as you didn't state which games you were talking about.
> All of which were very similar to EAs
> games, and (from what I've heard) superior over all
Not being a particular fan of Sega's, I don't really keep up with their software, so - fair enough - I'm unable to comment on the '2K1' series.
Before anyone jumps on me, I don't *dislike* Sega, I've just found that their games generally don't appeal to me. I do still own a Game Gear, but haven't played it for years. The same applies to Nintendo, though I did also own an original Gameboy.
Super Gohan wrote:
> SonicRav wrote:
> Super Gohan, one thing that almost everyone
> here gets totally wong.
> The Master system was not big at all.
> In the 8 bit era there were
> about 20 different consoles. The
> NES sold 8 times more than all of
> these consoles put together-
> including the Master system.
I never actually said the Master
> System was as successful as the NES, but I was merely saying that it
> was really the only worthy competition that the NES had.
and my point: the NES had NO competition.. not even from Sega!
Sonic
> SonicRav wrote:
> Super Gohan, one thing that almost everyone
> here gets totally wong.
> The Master system was not big at all.
> In the 8 bit era there were
> about 20 different consoles. The
> NES sold 8 times more than all of
> these consoles put together-
> including the Master system.
I never actually said the Master
> System was as successful as the NES, but I was merely saying that it
> was really the only worthy competition that the NES had.
and my point: the NES had NO competition.. not even from Sega!
Sonic
SonicRav wrote:
> Super Gohan, one thing that almost everyone here gets totally wong.
> The Master system was not big at all. In the 8 bit era there were
> about 20 different consoles. The NES sold 8 times more than all of
> these consoles put together- including the Master system.
I never actually said the Master System was as successful as the NES, but I was merely saying that it was really the only worthy competition that the NES had.
> Super Gohan, one thing that almost everyone here gets totally wong.
> The Master system was not big at all. In the 8 bit era there were
> about 20 different consoles. The NES sold 8 times more than all of
> these consoles put together- including the Master system.
I never actually said the Master System was as successful as the NES, but I was merely saying that it was really the only worthy competition that the NES had.
TheMorrigan wrote:
> Out of all Nintendo are the tops for Games, Sega second and Rare
> third, but the question is where does Sony fall into here?... Last?
As many have pointed out, Sony don't make games... they just have a few 2nd parties. Mind you, they USED to make some pretty smashing consoles ;)
Sonic
> Out of all Nintendo are the tops for Games, Sega second and Rare
> third, but the question is where does Sony fall into here?... Last?
As many have pointed out, Sony don't make games... they just have a few 2nd parties. Mind you, they USED to make some pretty smashing consoles ;)
Sonic
Super Gohan, one thing that almost everyone here gets totally wong. The Master system was not big at all. In the 8 bit era there were about 20 different consoles. The NES sold 8 times more than all of these consoles put together- including the Master system.
In the 16bit era, Ninty almost did the same. They had games like Mario and Zelda... and Sega had nothing to compete with...
Until Naka-san made sonic the hedgehog... which didn't do very well. BUT! Sonic 2 was huge, and put Sega on par with Ninty.
Sonic
In the 16bit era, Ninty almost did the same. They had games like Mario and Zelda... and Sega had nothing to compete with...
Until Naka-san made sonic the hedgehog... which didn't do very well. BUT! Sonic 2 was huge, and put Sega on par with Ninty.
Sonic
Out of all Nintendo are the tops for Games, Sega second and Rare third, but the question is where does Sony fall into here?... Last?
Wòókiee Møn§†€R wrote:
Will it fall though?
Sega and EA
> prodice different types of sports games. Sega's tend to be more on
> the arcadey side, while EA tend to go (or rather, attempt to go) for
> the simulation type of thing.
Compare, for example, Virtua
> Striker to FIFA. Me and the guys at work have spent countless lunch
> hours (and pund coins!) at one of the local pubs playing VS2. But
> we still enjoy our league competitions on FIFA - something you can't
> do on VS.
Actually Wookie, you have made a grave error. I was talking about Sega's 2k and 2k1 series. Like NBA2k1, NFL2k1, and the hockey one. All of which were very similar to EAs games, and (from what I've heard) superior over all
Sonic
They are both highly enjoyable games, but for very
> different reasons. I'm sure Sega are capable of making some very
> good simulations if they put their mind to it, but a sports sim is
> not something you really associate with them... for the moment, at
> least.
They'll certainly give EA some competition - any major
> software company would; but I don't think they'll have a direct,
> major impact on EA. I think both companies will do well, for
> different reasons.
Will it fall though?
Sega and EA
> prodice different types of sports games. Sega's tend to be more on
> the arcadey side, while EA tend to go (or rather, attempt to go) for
> the simulation type of thing.
Compare, for example, Virtua
> Striker to FIFA. Me and the guys at work have spent countless lunch
> hours (and pund coins!) at one of the local pubs playing VS2. But
> we still enjoy our league competitions on FIFA - something you can't
> do on VS.
Actually Wookie, you have made a grave error. I was talking about Sega's 2k and 2k1 series. Like NBA2k1, NFL2k1, and the hockey one. All of which were very similar to EAs games, and (from what I've heard) superior over all
Sonic
They are both highly enjoyable games, but for very
> different reasons. I'm sure Sega are capable of making some very
> good simulations if they put their mind to it, but a sports sim is
> not something you really associate with them... for the moment, at
> least.
They'll certainly give EA some competition - any major
> software company would; but I don't think they'll have a direct,
> major impact on EA. I think both companies will do well, for
> different reasons.
Sega are brilliant developers, giving us some of the most original games to date. Let's take a good look at Sega for the moment. They have been through a lot haven't they really.
In the past, there were only two console developers (not to far back in the past), Sega and Nintendo. When Nintendo brought out the NES, Sega released the Master System. Both of these consoles are still remembered today (if not, they should be). This is where the console market really kicked off. This is where the mascots really began, with Mario for Nintendo, and Sonic for Sega. It was a great battle between the two console developers.
Then Sega released the Megadrive, the next step up from the Master System. This probably still stands as the most successful console that they have made. This was gaming at it's best. And the competition heated up again when Nintendo released the SNES, the next step up from the NES, and the only competition that the Megadrive had. The SNES was a great console, there is no doubt about that, but it wasn't as successful as the Megadrive.
Sega tried to capitalise on this success by bringing out add-ons, but each of these flopped, didn't they. The Mega-CD was an add-on that made FMV possible for the games, and was on a CD format and not cartridge, but people just didn't seem that interested. Then there was the 32X, the add-on that gave the Megadrive 32-bit capabilities, but this didn't really hit it off, with a lot of the games just old Megadrive games revamped.
So then what was next for Sega, ah yes, the Saturn. Sega's 32-bit console, seemed a really good console, with some good games, and the promise of a 3D Sonic game just had Sega fans drooling. But, in comes a new console developer, giants Sony, with their Playstation. People were amazed by the likes of Wipeout, and chose to side with this console instead. The Saturn soon became the out-of-favour console, with everyone buying the Playstation. Eventually, Sega were forced to stop producing Saturns, because they were loosing too much money. Shame really, it was a great console.
Sega did try again though, with the Dreamcast, Sega's attempt at 128-bit gaming. This was a brilliant console, which not only benefited from 128-bit power, but the gaming genius of Sega, with original titles such as Crazi Taxi, and let's not forget everybody's favourite blue hedgehog, Sonic.
But, as good as it was, it still wasn't matching up with the Playstation, with the Playstation still managing to outsell it. Then the PS2 was finally released but Sony. This was that killer blow. Sega were already losing money, and the release of the PS2 made the inevitable happen. Sega stopped producing Dreamcasts and announced that they are going to concentrate on games from now on.
I expect this disappointed a lot of Sega fans. But, Sega now have the ability to reach a much wider audience, and all of those original titles the the Dreamcast got and would have got, will now be hitting other consoles.
If I was to be honest, I would have liked to see another Sega console, maybe one based on their new arcade baord, NAOMI 2, but, the same may probably happen to this console.
It's a damn shame, but at least now everybody can benifit from their brilliant games. Sega should have no trouble reaching that second 'biggest publisher in the world' spot. And even then, they can certainly give Nintendo a run for it's money.
TO BE THIS GOOD TAKES AGES
In the past, there were only two console developers (not to far back in the past), Sega and Nintendo. When Nintendo brought out the NES, Sega released the Master System. Both of these consoles are still remembered today (if not, they should be). This is where the console market really kicked off. This is where the mascots really began, with Mario for Nintendo, and Sonic for Sega. It was a great battle between the two console developers.
Then Sega released the Megadrive, the next step up from the Master System. This probably still stands as the most successful console that they have made. This was gaming at it's best. And the competition heated up again when Nintendo released the SNES, the next step up from the NES, and the only competition that the Megadrive had. The SNES was a great console, there is no doubt about that, but it wasn't as successful as the Megadrive.
Sega tried to capitalise on this success by bringing out add-ons, but each of these flopped, didn't they. The Mega-CD was an add-on that made FMV possible for the games, and was on a CD format and not cartridge, but people just didn't seem that interested. Then there was the 32X, the add-on that gave the Megadrive 32-bit capabilities, but this didn't really hit it off, with a lot of the games just old Megadrive games revamped.
So then what was next for Sega, ah yes, the Saturn. Sega's 32-bit console, seemed a really good console, with some good games, and the promise of a 3D Sonic game just had Sega fans drooling. But, in comes a new console developer, giants Sony, with their Playstation. People were amazed by the likes of Wipeout, and chose to side with this console instead. The Saturn soon became the out-of-favour console, with everyone buying the Playstation. Eventually, Sega were forced to stop producing Saturns, because they were loosing too much money. Shame really, it was a great console.
Sega did try again though, with the Dreamcast, Sega's attempt at 128-bit gaming. This was a brilliant console, which not only benefited from 128-bit power, but the gaming genius of Sega, with original titles such as Crazi Taxi, and let's not forget everybody's favourite blue hedgehog, Sonic.
But, as good as it was, it still wasn't matching up with the Playstation, with the Playstation still managing to outsell it. Then the PS2 was finally released but Sony. This was that killer blow. Sega were already losing money, and the release of the PS2 made the inevitable happen. Sega stopped producing Dreamcasts and announced that they are going to concentrate on games from now on.
I expect this disappointed a lot of Sega fans. But, Sega now have the ability to reach a much wider audience, and all of those original titles the the Dreamcast got and would have got, will now be hitting other consoles.
If I was to be honest, I would have liked to see another Sega console, maybe one based on their new arcade baord, NAOMI 2, but, the same may probably happen to this console.
It's a damn shame, but at least now everybody can benifit from their brilliant games. Sega should have no trouble reaching that second 'biggest publisher in the world' spot. And even then, they can certainly give Nintendo a run for it's money.
TO BE THIS GOOD TAKES AGES
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