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Well, E3 is here, and eh, does it look like the PS2 is finally dead?
There are no major PS2 announcements from Sony.
No top quality Sony games, no nothing about the PS2.
No online wants, no single player wants, just nothing.
A not very interesting announcement about Cell workstations by the end of the year, and a hand held device.
So, the PS2 finally dying?
We've got Metal Gear Solid 3, and Gran Turismo 4 to look farward to as exclusives, woohoo :D
My Xbox might be my favourite console in the coming months, Doom 3 Live, Halo 2 Live, The Red Star, PES Live, and the full EA lineup Live, yes I want NHL on my Xbox.
Microsoft are now THE major player in the games console industry, and Live has swung it for them.
There are no major PS2 announcements from Sony.
No top quality Sony games, no nothing about the PS2.
No online wants, no single player wants, just nothing.
A not very interesting announcement about Cell workstations by the end of the year, and a hand held device.
So, the PS2 finally dying?
We've got Metal Gear Solid 3, and Gran Turismo 4 to look farward to as exclusives, woohoo :D
My Xbox might be my favourite console in the coming months, Doom 3 Live, Halo 2 Live, The Red Star, PES Live, and the full EA lineup Live, yes I want NHL on my Xbox.
Microsoft are now THE major player in the games console industry, and Live has swung it for them.
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Mmmm .... tardish.
Here's the thing:
It was Bullett opinion - he knew that, he got that, everyone else knew that, everyone else got that. In fact, everyone except you could see and understand the opinion.
Here's the thing:
It was Bullett opinion - he knew that, he got that, everyone else knew that, everyone else got that. In fact, everyone except you could see and understand the opinion.
ßulle†† wrote:
> Cusack wrote:
> ßulle†† wrote:
> Oh, and just to clear things up:
>
> o·pin·ion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-pnyn)
> n.
>
> 1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not
> substantiated by positive knowledge or proof
>
> Now shut it.
> That's exactly what I was talking about. You don't have proof nor
> knowledge, simply because your opinion is about something that
> doesn't exist. You actually make it sound like a fact rather than an
> opinion.
>
> You complete and utter w*nkshaft - if you want to take my opinions as
> fact, go ahead. But it's not me that looks stupid when you try to
> implement those opinions as factual statements.
>
> Go and die now. You're not going to win this argument, you
> hypocritical muppet.
I wasn't trying to assume your opinion is a fact, but you were, because you're the one who argued with me when I said mine, if you want it to be just an opinion, then say your opinion and let everybody else say their opinion too, you said something, I thought otherwise, we were just pointing out our opinions, but you wanted to argue because you wanted to prove your opinion to be correct, thus becoming a fact. Now look who is being a hypocrite ?
> Cusack wrote:
> ßulle†† wrote:
> Oh, and just to clear things up:
>
> o·pin·ion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-pnyn)
> n.
>
> 1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not
> substantiated by positive knowledge or proof
>
> Now shut it.
> That's exactly what I was talking about. You don't have proof nor
> knowledge, simply because your opinion is about something that
> doesn't exist. You actually make it sound like a fact rather than an
> opinion.
>
> You complete and utter w*nkshaft - if you want to take my opinions as
> fact, go ahead. But it's not me that looks stupid when you try to
> implement those opinions as factual statements.
>
> Go and die now. You're not going to win this argument, you
> hypocritical muppet.
I wasn't trying to assume your opinion is a fact, but you were, because you're the one who argued with me when I said mine, if you want it to be just an opinion, then say your opinion and let everybody else say their opinion too, you said something, I thought otherwise, we were just pointing out our opinions, but you wanted to argue because you wanted to prove your opinion to be correct, thus becoming a fact. Now look who is being a hypocrite ?
ßulle†† wrote:
> Cusack wrote:
> Then how do you explain that I was posting in the Nintendo forum
> about good Nintendo games ? I'm not specifically trying to support
> the ps2, suppose you were talking about the Xbox, or the Gc, or even
> snes, or anything else apart from video games, that's not what drew
> my attention in the first place, what drew my attention that you
> mentioned some really stupid things, like :" San Andreas is
> coming on Xbox and so is mgs3",now that doesn't sound like an
> opinion to me, it sounds like you've been there with them, and they
> told you that this was going to happen, because non of us has even
> heard rumours about both games coming to Xbox, that's just the way
> you want it to happen, and you assumed it as a fact, so stop this
> fan
> boy thing because you really sound retarded. I just follow decent
> games, on which console they are DOESN'T CONCERN ME .
>
> FFsyou tosspot, I'm seriously about to report you for trolling now. I
> ant you to PROVE I said those statements. Because I can
> guarantee you I wouldn't have said MGS3 is coming to Xbox. As for
> GTA:SA, it's highly likely it will come to Xbox in time but I haven't
> even said that! You must either have me mixed up with someone else,
> or your trolling for definite, Either way I'm reporting you.
>
>
> Are you a fool of some sort ? Haven't you noticed that I was mucking
> you ? I was making fum=n of the way you were pointing out your
> opinion, you're talking as if your opinion is facts. You could have
> put it like this : "Halo 2 looks better thab Kill Zone" or
> "I don't think Kill zone is as good as Halo", and you
> don't
> say "Kill Zone IS crap" or "Halo 2 IS
> better than Kill Zone" . Using verb to be makes it a fact, an
> opinion is different, especially when you're talking about something
> that deoesn't exist, how do you know that they won't cancel both
> projects ? Why do you think that you can see a flaw in the game, and
> the game developers can not ? If there is, then they'll easily fix
> it. Do you know how many bugs were there in mgs2 when it was under
> the development stages ? That's a normal thing . Do you remember how
> resi evil 4 used to look like last E3 ? Can you see it now ?
>
> You still don't get it do you? FOR THE LAST F**KING TIME, IT'S MY
> OPINION - It's nothing official, it's nothing like 'spotting flaws',
> you pr*ck. It's exactly how I percieve a game in it's early stages -
> my judgement on whether the game is - IN MY EYES - is good enough for
> me to part with my money. The sooner you get that into your thick
> head, the sooner you can shut the hell up with this crap.
But you weren't pointing it out as an opinion, because if that really what you meant at first, we wouldn't really be arguing now, because you if you said your opinion and I said mine, then there wouldn't be a problem, but you wanted to be the only one who is right, and you wanted to prove me wrong, you're either preventing me from saying my opinion, or you're trying to convince me that your opinion is a fact, if you were really pointing out your opinion, then shut up.
> Cusack wrote:
> Then how do you explain that I was posting in the Nintendo forum
> about good Nintendo games ? I'm not specifically trying to support
> the ps2, suppose you were talking about the Xbox, or the Gc, or even
> snes, or anything else apart from video games, that's not what drew
> my attention in the first place, what drew my attention that you
> mentioned some really stupid things, like :" San Andreas is
> coming on Xbox and so is mgs3",now that doesn't sound like an
> opinion to me, it sounds like you've been there with them, and they
> told you that this was going to happen, because non of us has even
> heard rumours about both games coming to Xbox, that's just the way
> you want it to happen, and you assumed it as a fact, so stop this
> fan
> boy thing because you really sound retarded. I just follow decent
> games, on which console they are DOESN'T CONCERN ME .
>
> FFsyou tosspot, I'm seriously about to report you for trolling now. I
> ant you to PROVE I said those statements. Because I can
> guarantee you I wouldn't have said MGS3 is coming to Xbox. As for
> GTA:SA, it's highly likely it will come to Xbox in time but I haven't
> even said that! You must either have me mixed up with someone else,
> or your trolling for definite, Either way I'm reporting you.
>
>
> Are you a fool of some sort ? Haven't you noticed that I was mucking
> you ? I was making fum=n of the way you were pointing out your
> opinion, you're talking as if your opinion is facts. You could have
> put it like this : "Halo 2 looks better thab Kill Zone" or
> "I don't think Kill zone is as good as Halo", and you
> don't
> say "Kill Zone IS crap" or "Halo 2 IS
> better than Kill Zone" . Using verb to be makes it a fact, an
> opinion is different, especially when you're talking about something
> that deoesn't exist, how do you know that they won't cancel both
> projects ? Why do you think that you can see a flaw in the game, and
> the game developers can not ? If there is, then they'll easily fix
> it. Do you know how many bugs were there in mgs2 when it was under
> the development stages ? That's a normal thing . Do you remember how
> resi evil 4 used to look like last E3 ? Can you see it now ?
>
> You still don't get it do you? FOR THE LAST F**KING TIME, IT'S MY
> OPINION - It's nothing official, it's nothing like 'spotting flaws',
> you pr*ck. It's exactly how I percieve a game in it's early stages -
> my judgement on whether the game is - IN MY EYES - is good enough for
> me to part with my money. The sooner you get that into your thick
> head, the sooner you can shut the hell up with this crap.
But you weren't pointing it out as an opinion, because if that really what you meant at first, we wouldn't really be arguing now, because you if you said your opinion and I said mine, then there wouldn't be a problem, but you wanted to be the only one who is right, and you wanted to prove me wrong, you're either preventing me from saying my opinion, or you're trying to convince me that your opinion is a fact, if you were really pointing out your opinion, then shut up.
AliBoy wrote:
> A decent discussion that seem to have turned into a fanboy rant using
> pointless facts and silly information.
>
> Play the games you have and enjoy them.
> Buy the games you want and enjoy them.
>
> It is That Simple.
>
> Why do the discussions on here always go this way?
Listen and learn
> A decent discussion that seem to have turned into a fanboy rant using
> pointless facts and silly information.
>
> Play the games you have and enjoy them.
> Buy the games you want and enjoy them.
>
> It is That Simple.
>
> Why do the discussions on here always go this way?
Listen and learn
Cusack wrote:
> ßulle†† wrote:
> Oh, and just to clear things up:
>
> o·pin·ion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-pnyn)
> n.
>
> 1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not
> substantiated by positive knowledge or proof
>
> Now shut it.
> That's exactly what I was talking about. You don't have proof nor
> knowledge, simply because your opinion is about something that
> doesn't exist. You actually make it sound like a fact rather than an
> opinion.
You complete and utter w*nkshaft - if you want to take my opinions as fact, go ahead. But it's not me that looks stupid when you try to implement those opinions as factual statements.
Go and die now. You're not going to win this argument, you hypocritical muppet.
> ßulle†† wrote:
> Oh, and just to clear things up:
>
> o·pin·ion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-pnyn)
> n.
>
> 1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not
> substantiated by positive knowledge or proof
>
> Now shut it.
> That's exactly what I was talking about. You don't have proof nor
> knowledge, simply because your opinion is about something that
> doesn't exist. You actually make it sound like a fact rather than an
> opinion.
You complete and utter w*nkshaft - if you want to take my opinions as fact, go ahead. But it's not me that looks stupid when you try to implement those opinions as factual statements.
Go and die now. You're not going to win this argument, you hypocritical muppet.
Cusack wrote:
> Then how do you explain that I was posting in the Nintendo forum
> about good Nintendo games ? I'm not specifically trying to support
> the ps2, suppose you were talking about the Xbox, or the Gc, or even
> snes, or anything else apart from video games, that's not what drew
> my attention in the first place, what drew my attention that you
> mentioned some really stupid things, like :" San Andreas is
> coming on Xbox and so is mgs3",now that doesn't sound like an
> opinion to me, it sounds like you've been there with them, and they
> told you that this was going to happen, because non of us has even
> heard rumours about both games coming to Xbox, that's just the way
> you want it to happen, and you assumed it as a fact, so stop this fan
> boy thing because you really sound retarded. I just follow decent
> games, on which console they are DOESN'T CONCERN ME .
FFsyou tosspot, I'm seriously about to report you for trolling now. I ant you to PROVE I said those statements. Because I can guarantee you I wouldn't have said MGS3 is coming to Xbox. As for GTA:SA, it's highly likely it will come to Xbox in time but I haven't even said that! You must either have me mixed up with someone else, or your trolling for definite, Either way I'm reporting you.
> Are you a fool of some sort ? Haven't you noticed that I was mucking
> you ? I was making fum=n of the way you were pointing out your
> opinion, you're talking as if your opinion is facts. You could have
> put it like this : "Halo 2 looks better thab Kill Zone" or
> "I don't think Kill zone is as good as Halo", and you don't
> say "Kill Zone IS crap" or "Halo 2 IS
> better than Kill Zone" . Using verb to be makes it a fact, an
> opinion is different, especially when you're talking about something
> that deoesn't exist, how do you know that they won't cancel both
> projects ? Why do you think that you can see a flaw in the game, and
> the game developers can not ? If there is, then they'll easily fix
> it. Do you know how many bugs were there in mgs2 when it was under
> the development stages ? That's a normal thing . Do you remember how
> resi evil 4 used to look like last E3 ? Can you see it now ?
You still don't get it do you? FOR THE LAST F**KING TIME, IT'S MY OPINION - It's nothing official, it's nothing like 'spotting flaws', you pr*ck. It's exactly how I percieve a game in it's early stages - my judgement on whether the game is - IN MY EYES - is good enough for me to part with my money. The sooner you get that into your thick head, the sooner you can shut the hell up with this crap.
> Then how do you explain that I was posting in the Nintendo forum
> about good Nintendo games ? I'm not specifically trying to support
> the ps2, suppose you were talking about the Xbox, or the Gc, or even
> snes, or anything else apart from video games, that's not what drew
> my attention in the first place, what drew my attention that you
> mentioned some really stupid things, like :" San Andreas is
> coming on Xbox and so is mgs3",now that doesn't sound like an
> opinion to me, it sounds like you've been there with them, and they
> told you that this was going to happen, because non of us has even
> heard rumours about both games coming to Xbox, that's just the way
> you want it to happen, and you assumed it as a fact, so stop this fan
> boy thing because you really sound retarded. I just follow decent
> games, on which console they are DOESN'T CONCERN ME .
FFsyou tosspot, I'm seriously about to report you for trolling now. I ant you to PROVE I said those statements. Because I can guarantee you I wouldn't have said MGS3 is coming to Xbox. As for GTA:SA, it's highly likely it will come to Xbox in time but I haven't even said that! You must either have me mixed up with someone else, or your trolling for definite, Either way I'm reporting you.
> Are you a fool of some sort ? Haven't you noticed that I was mucking
> you ? I was making fum=n of the way you were pointing out your
> opinion, you're talking as if your opinion is facts. You could have
> put it like this : "Halo 2 looks better thab Kill Zone" or
> "I don't think Kill zone is as good as Halo", and you don't
> say "Kill Zone IS crap" or "Halo 2 IS
> better than Kill Zone" . Using verb to be makes it a fact, an
> opinion is different, especially when you're talking about something
> that deoesn't exist, how do you know that they won't cancel both
> projects ? Why do you think that you can see a flaw in the game, and
> the game developers can not ? If there is, then they'll easily fix
> it. Do you know how many bugs were there in mgs2 when it was under
> the development stages ? That's a normal thing . Do you remember how
> resi evil 4 used to look like last E3 ? Can you see it now ?
You still don't get it do you? FOR THE LAST F**KING TIME, IT'S MY OPINION - It's nothing official, it's nothing like 'spotting flaws', you pr*ck. It's exactly how I percieve a game in it's early stages - my judgement on whether the game is - IN MY EYES - is good enough for me to part with my money. The sooner you get that into your thick head, the sooner you can shut the hell up with this crap.
lalakersrule wrote:
> You aren't going to get a decent debate out of this muppet, he tried
> to have an argument with me about Disgaea when he hadn't even played
> the bloody game.
We weren't actually arguing about Disgaea, at first we talked about it, and I agreed to wait until I play it, but you're the one who kept offending me for no reason.
> You aren't going to get a decent debate out of this muppet, he tried
> to have an argument with me about Disgaea when he hadn't even played
> the bloody game.
We weren't actually arguing about Disgaea, at first we talked about it, and I agreed to wait until I play it, but you're the one who kept offending me for no reason.
You aren't going to get a decent debate out of this muppet, he tried to have an argument with me about Disgaea when he hadn't even played the bloody game.
FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> Cusack wrote:
> But still, it won't be half as successful as Sony+ Nintendo.
>
> Explain this to me then.
> How did I misunderstand?
>
> You're talking about a partnership between Sony and Ninty -
> obviously.
>
> Not talking about Sony success on it's own, in terms of sales - 1)
> because sales, or popularity aren't mentioned, and 2) the '+
> Nintendo' pretty much indicates a partnership between Sony and Ninty.
> Not Sony on it's own
>
> Either that, or your grasp of the English language is quite
> hilariously poor and you always write something completely different
> to what you actually mean.
I say what I mean, and I write what I say. You misunderstood. I was talking about a sony and nintendo because they have the most important 2 things. Nintendo are great in the games industry, and sony are great in the business indusrty, while they both lack the qualities of each other.
> Cusack wrote:
> But still, it won't be half as successful as Sony+ Nintendo.
>
> Explain this to me then.
> How did I misunderstand?
>
> You're talking about a partnership between Sony and Ninty -
> obviously.
>
> Not talking about Sony success on it's own, in terms of sales - 1)
> because sales, or popularity aren't mentioned, and 2) the '+
> Nintendo' pretty much indicates a partnership between Sony and Ninty.
> Not Sony on it's own
>
> Either that, or your grasp of the English language is quite
> hilariously poor and you always write something completely different
> to what you actually mean.
I say what I mean, and I write what I say. You misunderstood. I was talking about a sony and nintendo because they have the most important 2 things. Nintendo are great in the games industry, and sony are great in the business indusrty, while they both lack the qualities of each other.
Cusack wrote:
> But still, it won't be half as successful as Sony+ Nintendo.
Explain this to me then.
How did I misunderstand?
You're talking about a partnership between Sony and Ninty - obviously.
Not talking about Sony success on it's own, in terms of sales - 1) because sales, or popularity aren't mentioned, and 2) the '+ Nintendo' pretty much indicates a partnership between Sony and Ninty. Not Sony on it's own
Either that, or your grasp of the English language is quite hilariously poor and you always write something completely different to what you actually mean.
> But still, it won't be half as successful as Sony+ Nintendo.
Explain this to me then.
How did I misunderstand?
You're talking about a partnership between Sony and Ninty - obviously.
Not talking about Sony success on it's own, in terms of sales - 1) because sales, or popularity aren't mentioned, and 2) the '+ Nintendo' pretty much indicates a partnership between Sony and Ninty. Not Sony on it's own
Either that, or your grasp of the English language is quite hilariously poor and you always write something completely different to what you actually mean.
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