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Sun 15/07/01 at 00:57
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Those Nintendo didi discs have come under heavy fire recently especially from those in the Sony camp and so I ask why?

The major fault is it's size, nothing compared to a DVD. But you'll never fill a DVD anyway and it will be a while until you fill an Optical Disc. 1.5GB isn't that low!

And anyway, as Optical Discs are cheap anyway (approx £35 the games will cost), then they can always have more than one. Another advantage of this format is its price much less than the DVD games which retail at about £45!

That of course isn't it, the Gamecube has virtually non-existent loading times and why? Yep you guessed it, the discs. As they are a shocking 8cm, the laser doesn't need tot ravel far to read the data and so some games have unnoticeable loading times, and those that do are very very short.

The size of the disc also helps in the console's size, it is tiny, about 10 CD's stacked up - go on try it. About the same size of my alarm clock it really is amazing but if the Discs were bigger, then the Console will need to be.

And finally, piracy! Ok, the discs may still get copied but it isn't as easy to do as the PS or Dreamcast. They are a completely new format for starters. Also, on the Optical Discs there are little holes that the discs require so the Gamecube can read them and, if a copied disc doesn't have them, then they cannot be used.

So Piracy, Price, Size and Loading are all things that will benefit Nintendo and are all thanks to the Disc and even though they are small in comparison to DVD's they are a very clever and wise move by the big N.

Dringo
Wed 18/07/01 at 01:15
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Turbonutter wrote:
> Someone's bound to start selling mini 8cm discs.


actually, this seems to be a problem for crackers,,, i never thought of this. The only answer (god, we sound like a group of hackers now.. or is that just me!) is err.... I'll sleep on it... it';s past midnight... see you in the morning!

Sonic
Wed 18/07/01 at 01:14
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Costing more money...

This pirating the GC sounds expensive!

8cm discs will be expensive and anyway the big N say there is nothing else like it!
Wed 18/07/01 at 01:10
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Someone's bound to start selling mini 8cm discs.
Wed 18/07/01 at 01:07
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So what sort of Disc can? if a Copied disc cant fit then it won't work!
Wed 18/07/01 at 00:58
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Dringo wrote:
> Hmmm you do know that the GC doesn't paly music CD's?


Yeah, the OD tray is just too small!
Tue 17/07/01 at 22:35
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Hmm i know but i did say it is hard not immposible!
Tue 17/07/01 at 22:10
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Dringo wrote:
> Hmmm you do know that the GC doesn't paly music CD's?

Really... that is the first I've heard of that.

All it means is that hacking (or should I say cracking) the console will be harder... but still possible to do

Sonic
Tue 17/07/01 at 21:58
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Hmmm you do know that the GC doesn't paly music CD's?
Tue 17/07/01 at 21:52
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FrEaK Of ThE (mr) DaRk wrote:
> Maybe, but the optical disk is different. Smaller, got holes in them
> etc. to cd's so it will take a lot of money to find a way to hack
> into this, then they will have to get the copiyed cd's with thoese
> holes. So it will cost about £30 to get a copyied one, so
> whats the point?

Also Nintendo have got a very strict privacy
> pocilcy, and if anyone is caughthey face a heavy fine


Clearly you no nothing about how the DC disc work. THET ARE NOT CDs. you cannot buy these discs. You cannot buy a machine to copy these discs. So how did hackers get around this? Well, the used the fact that the DC will play audio CDs. What they did was stick a piece of code onto a CD that made the console THINK that it was a real Dreamcast disc. Then you could play pirate games.

This is what will happen with the GC. It will not take as much money as you claim to do. All it takes is a person who has done a computer sciences degree and has some knowledge of interface designs.

Sonic
Tue 17/07/01 at 20:41
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Maybe, but the optical disk is different. Smaller, got holes in them etc. to cd's so it will take a lot of money to find a way to hack into this, then they will have to get the copiyed cd's with thoese holes. So it will cost about £30 to get a copyied one, so whats the point?

Also Nintendo have got a very strict privacy pocilcy, and if anyone is caughthey face a heavy fine

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