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Earlier a respected regular who goes by the name of Dringo said this:
“When I stick up for Nintendo at School I tend to get hit mainly by someone called Neal”
This, I found is terrible. Dringo is getting bullied by someone because of something he believes in, and believes he should stand by, it is disgusting, what is the world coming to???
Both gaming and bullying are everywhere in this world, no matter where you go. But I find it disgusting when you can stick up for something you believe in with out getting bullied, like Dringo here. This “incident” has got me thinking about gaming and if it is a cause of bullying, what do you think??? Well, Dringo is not the only person subject to this type of bullying because there must be hundreds if not thousands of people subject to this
But I find this ironic, because usually it is people who know a lot about computers and gaming, who get bullied by people who believe that this type of stuff, is “geeky”, but now everything has gone mad and it is our fellow gamers who are turning on us, solely because you believe different things to them.
This brings me to this question, are computer games a cause of bullying?? This is a serious question to think about, because bullying is a serious matter, it can draw people to suicide. I know how it feels when someone does this, because an old friend of my, he got bullied for the way he dressed and what he liked, and he ended up killing himself, when his mother told me I was very upset.
In games nowadays there is always a hint of bullying in them, sometimes it is so subtle you cannot recognise it but, sometimes it does stand out, and it is uncalled for. Bullying is not something that should be taken lightly, it can cause great pain to the people are victims to it and sometimes to their family as well, and if games can promote this then it could become more frequent. It must be stopped, games should not be able to promote such things, because it is very serious.
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This brings me to the subject of Racism.
Racism is everywhere in this world today, no matter where you go it is always there. No matter what colour you are, what you believe, or what you nationality is you can and will be at least once be subject to racial abuse. People who are from Pakistan, or who are Indian are usually subject to name calling and sometimes things more severe. Racism is everywhere it is not just in reality either, it is in films and jokes and there is even hints of it in games.
The type of racism in games is not very obvious, but it is there. The type of racism in games may not be very harsh, and often not offensive to anyone at all, but is still present and noticed. Here is a question for you, how many main characters in computer games are there, who aren’t white??? Well there is going to be an obvious answer of very few.
But this brings to mind another question, is this intentional racism/prejudice??? I don’t think it is, but is well worth a thought. You may be thinking why I am posting something of this nature; well it is something my friend pointed, as I should say he is black and rather cheesed of because of this petty racism.
“There are so many white characters in computer games and not enough black” was what my friend says and he classes this as racism and so do I. This is not blatant racism, by the companies, but certain ethnic groups can think it as offensive and uncalled for. The other type of racism is in a game called Conkers Bad Fur Day, the racism in this is not offensive in any way, to any human, but It is still classed a racism and it could encourage acts of racism in reality.
Bullying and Racism is wrong, and people must realise this, because the effects of it could be serious.
Thanx for reading
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“When I stick up for Nintendo at School I tend to get hit mainly by someone called Neal”
This, I found is terrible. Dringo is getting bullied by someone because of something he believes in, and believes he should stand by, it is disgusting, what is the world coming to???
Both gaming and bullying are everywhere in this world, no matter where you go. But I find it disgusting when you can stick up for something you believe in with out getting bullied, like Dringo here. This “incident” has got me thinking about gaming and if it is a cause of bullying, what do you think??? Well, Dringo is not the only person subject to this type of bullying because there must be hundreds if not thousands of people subject to this
But I find this ironic, because usually it is people who know a lot about computers and gaming, who get bullied by people who believe that this type of stuff, is “geeky”, but now everything has gone mad and it is our fellow gamers who are turning on us, solely because you believe different things to them.
This brings me to this question, are computer games a cause of bullying?? This is a serious question to think about, because bullying is a serious matter, it can draw people to suicide. I know how it feels when someone does this, because an old friend of my, he got bullied for the way he dressed and what he liked, and he ended up killing himself, when his mother told me I was very upset.
In games nowadays there is always a hint of bullying in them, sometimes it is so subtle you cannot recognise it but, sometimes it does stand out, and it is uncalled for. Bullying is not something that should be taken lightly, it can cause great pain to the people are victims to it and sometimes to their family as well, and if games can promote this then it could become more frequent. It must be stopped, games should not be able to promote such things, because it is very serious.
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This brings me to the subject of Racism.
Racism is everywhere in this world today, no matter where you go it is always there. No matter what colour you are, what you believe, or what you nationality is you can and will be at least once be subject to racial abuse. People who are from Pakistan, or who are Indian are usually subject to name calling and sometimes things more severe. Racism is everywhere it is not just in reality either, it is in films and jokes and there is even hints of it in games.
The type of racism in games is not very obvious, but it is there. The type of racism in games may not be very harsh, and often not offensive to anyone at all, but is still present and noticed. Here is a question for you, how many main characters in computer games are there, who aren’t white??? Well there is going to be an obvious answer of very few.
But this brings to mind another question, is this intentional racism/prejudice??? I don’t think it is, but is well worth a thought. You may be thinking why I am posting something of this nature; well it is something my friend pointed, as I should say he is black and rather cheesed of because of this petty racism.
“There are so many white characters in computer games and not enough black” was what my friend says and he classes this as racism and so do I. This is not blatant racism, by the companies, but certain ethnic groups can think it as offensive and uncalled for. The other type of racism is in a game called Conkers Bad Fur Day, the racism in this is not offensive in any way, to any human, but It is still classed a racism and it could encourage acts of racism in reality.
Bullying and Racism is wrong, and people must realise this, because the effects of it could be serious.
Thanx for reading
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Same here.
Just read it Goaty and added my views as well.
I do hope you go and make fart jokes, you've been far too serious today!!
:0)
I do hope you go and make fart jokes, you've been far too serious today!!
:0)
Exactly.
Ok, Life Forum has my two cents worth.
I'm off to make fart jokes in the DVD section for a while now
Ok, Life Forum has my two cents worth.
I'm off to make fart jokes in the DVD section for a while now
That was beautiful Wookiee!
I'm glad to see we are not afraid to open up our feelings to everyone here.
We should all meet up and go to the pub or something.
I'm glad to see we are not afraid to open up our feelings to everyone here.
We should all meet up and go to the pub or something.
Ok, I'm off to write my feelings and experinces of this subject.
I'll stick it in the life forum, as I think it belongs in there.
Cooldogs really opened something when he posted his topic, and I think this is a subject that needs discussing continually, as a lot of you guys are at school and are either a victim of bullying or are aware of it going on.
Personal info and feelings are hard to reveal on forums.
Sure, we all "know" each other, but there's still the risk of someone laughing or posting something retarded.
But I don't care, I want people to know they're not alone or stupid or wrong if they are being bullied.
Check back in 20 minutes in the Life forum.
I'll stick it in the life forum, as I think it belongs in there.
Cooldogs really opened something when he posted his topic, and I think this is a subject that needs discussing continually, as a lot of you guys are at school and are either a victim of bullying or are aware of it going on.
Personal info and feelings are hard to reveal on forums.
Sure, we all "know" each other, but there's still the risk of someone laughing or posting something retarded.
But I don't care, I want people to know they're not alone or stupid or wrong if they are being bullied.
Check back in 20 minutes in the Life forum.
Goatboy wrote:
> I love you man
> Men with Men is not a bad thing.
Err... scared now!
> Obviously I meant in a beer drinking/footbal
> watching/meat eating/fighting like real men kind of way.
Ah! Phew!
> I love you man
> Men with Men is not a bad thing.
Err... scared now!
> Obviously I meant in a beer drinking/footbal
> watching/meat eating/fighting like real men kind of way.
Ah! Phew!
I have to say i admire Wookiee for revealing all that. I know it can be hard to talk about things like this.
I also agree with Goaty, it all stops when you leave school, the bullies become drop outs who end up working for McDonalds.
Just make sure they don't spit on your chips when you go get some food!
:-)
I also agree with Goaty, it all stops when you leave school, the bullies become drop outs who end up working for McDonalds.
Just make sure they don't spit on your chips when you go get some food!
:-)
Goatboy wrote:
> I love you man
*Big man hugs for his Wookie
> Comedy-Partner*
Men with Men is not a bad thing.
Obviously I meant in a beer drinking/footbal watching/meat eating/fighting like real men kind of way.
Oh boy, if my woman ever reads these forums..No noogie for the Goatboy
> I love you man
*Big man hugs for his Wookie
> Comedy-Partner*
Men with Men is not a bad thing.
Obviously I meant in a beer drinking/footbal watching/meat eating/fighting like real men kind of way.
Oh boy, if my woman ever reads these forums..No noogie for the Goatboy
I love you man
*Big man hugs for his Wookie Comedy-Partner*
Men with Men is not a bad thing.
Ok, I'll post my own thoughts on this topic, I need to decide how much personal info to reveal to you guys.
I'm not sure how much I want people to know about me that I don't really know.
Let me go think
*Big man hugs for his Wookie Comedy-Partner*
Men with Men is not a bad thing.
Ok, I'll post my own thoughts on this topic, I need to decide how much personal info to reveal to you guys.
I'm not sure how much I want people to know about me that I don't really know.
Let me go think
As I've mentioned before, I was bullied at school, and it was partly "to blame" for pushing me towards computers and video games. It was safer to lose myself in virtual worlds than face bullying in the real one.
I don't regret the computer and video games part, but I do regret not facing up to the bully. I was always big for my age, and my parents drummed it into me not to hit other kids in case I really hurt them - which, with hindsight, was a bad thing to do; if you don't hit back, you get picked on all the more.
Apart from being apprehensive about going out (the bully lived just around the corner from me) and not enjoying my time at school, I also had some fairly major surgery on my lower back between the ages of 13 and 16, which caused me to miss over a year of school.
During that time, my family also moved from London to Northampton, which meant I also lost contact with most of the friends I did have. I was put back a year at school to catch up with what I'd missed; having always been quite mature for my age (I am in real life, honestly!) I felt out of place with the kids in my year... and most of the kids in the year above didn't really want to be friends with a kid in the year below (you know how school is), so I made very few friends in the new school.
My parents always said "Enjoy school - they're the best years of your life; just wait until you start working!"
But in my personal experience, that simply is not true. Despite having been made shy and introverted by these events, I couldn't wait to get out of school and start earning my own money. I *did* manage to do an extra couple of years in the 6th-form to take A-Level's, but after that I couldn't stay in education any longer, and so never went to college or university.
I don't feel like I had a 'proper' childhood - one in which I could expand and develop my inter-personal skills; I'm still quite a quiet and shy person who doesn't like drawing attention to myself, and I obviously still like losing myself in virtual worlds. But my attitude has changed dramatically; I do pretty much keep myself to myself, but I've developed a much more 'arrogant' attitude (in a good way - I hope) whereby I don't give a damn what people think.
That's not to say I'm deliberately rude and obnoxious, because I'm not; what I mean is that people have to take me as they find me, because I don't put on a front for anyone - what you see is what you get, and if you don't like it, that's your problem. And I don't take any crap from anyone, either.
I also am not a violent or aggressive person, but if I could go back to my school years with the attitude I have now, that bully would be in for one hell of a shock, because I'd knock him flat on his butt.
Anyway, what's the point of telling you all this? Well, I don't think games are a cause of bullying - at least not in the traditional sense. You may get picked on because you like one type of console over another, but that's more a form of racism than violence inspired by games.
I know from personal experience that games really can provide a welcome relief from the worries of the real world, and this relief is magnified many times if you are being bullied.
While the way that bullies are dealt with by schools has improved, there's still no ideal solution. Looking back now, my ideal solution would have been to smack the kid in question on the nose... I'm fairly sure that would've been the end of it. But unfortunately you can't just tell a victim of bullying to hit back, because it doesn't always work; many bullies are part of a gang, and hitting one of them may only result in a more severe beating - especially as bullies seem much more violent these days. (No, I don't blame that on videogames or films - I blame the parents, many of whom just don't seem to care what their kids are getting up to, as long as they're not bothering them.)
How you deal with your bully is really down to your own personal judgement. If they're part of a gang, report it to the appropriate people and let them deal with it, if they can. If it's a single person, use your judgement - if you think you can smack them one and put a stop to it, it might be worth a go. I regret not doing it.
Bullies are cowards, and it only takes one person to stand up to them to put them in their place. I know it's not easy, but please - don't let them drive you into your shell and ruin your childhood - you'll kick yourself later in life.
I don't regret the computer and video games part, but I do regret not facing up to the bully. I was always big for my age, and my parents drummed it into me not to hit other kids in case I really hurt them - which, with hindsight, was a bad thing to do; if you don't hit back, you get picked on all the more.
Apart from being apprehensive about going out (the bully lived just around the corner from me) and not enjoying my time at school, I also had some fairly major surgery on my lower back between the ages of 13 and 16, which caused me to miss over a year of school.
During that time, my family also moved from London to Northampton, which meant I also lost contact with most of the friends I did have. I was put back a year at school to catch up with what I'd missed; having always been quite mature for my age (I am in real life, honestly!) I felt out of place with the kids in my year... and most of the kids in the year above didn't really want to be friends with a kid in the year below (you know how school is), so I made very few friends in the new school.
My parents always said "Enjoy school - they're the best years of your life; just wait until you start working!"
But in my personal experience, that simply is not true. Despite having been made shy and introverted by these events, I couldn't wait to get out of school and start earning my own money. I *did* manage to do an extra couple of years in the 6th-form to take A-Level's, but after that I couldn't stay in education any longer, and so never went to college or university.
I don't feel like I had a 'proper' childhood - one in which I could expand and develop my inter-personal skills; I'm still quite a quiet and shy person who doesn't like drawing attention to myself, and I obviously still like losing myself in virtual worlds. But my attitude has changed dramatically; I do pretty much keep myself to myself, but I've developed a much more 'arrogant' attitude (in a good way - I hope) whereby I don't give a damn what people think.
That's not to say I'm deliberately rude and obnoxious, because I'm not; what I mean is that people have to take me as they find me, because I don't put on a front for anyone - what you see is what you get, and if you don't like it, that's your problem. And I don't take any crap from anyone, either.
I also am not a violent or aggressive person, but if I could go back to my school years with the attitude I have now, that bully would be in for one hell of a shock, because I'd knock him flat on his butt.
Anyway, what's the point of telling you all this? Well, I don't think games are a cause of bullying - at least not in the traditional sense. You may get picked on because you like one type of console over another, but that's more a form of racism than violence inspired by games.
I know from personal experience that games really can provide a welcome relief from the worries of the real world, and this relief is magnified many times if you are being bullied.
While the way that bullies are dealt with by schools has improved, there's still no ideal solution. Looking back now, my ideal solution would have been to smack the kid in question on the nose... I'm fairly sure that would've been the end of it. But unfortunately you can't just tell a victim of bullying to hit back, because it doesn't always work; many bullies are part of a gang, and hitting one of them may only result in a more severe beating - especially as bullies seem much more violent these days. (No, I don't blame that on videogames or films - I blame the parents, many of whom just don't seem to care what their kids are getting up to, as long as they're not bothering them.)
How you deal with your bully is really down to your own personal judgement. If they're part of a gang, report it to the appropriate people and let them deal with it, if they can. If it's a single person, use your judgement - if you think you can smack them one and put a stop to it, it might be worth a go. I regret not doing it.
Bullies are cowards, and it only takes one person to stand up to them to put them in their place. I know it's not easy, but please - don't let them drive you into your shell and ruin your childhood - you'll kick yourself later in life.
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