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In March we saw the ending of the Dreamcast’s production and sega announcing the end of an era and that it was time to go into full time software business for all companies. Well the question on everyone’s mind was if this new change was a start of a great path for sega or a tunnel to the light to heaven for the company.
As most here will know, Sega has stopped hardware business of all kind and is now making games for multi-formats because they are so good at them and could make a heap of money out of it. After the Dreamcast’s Awfully lacking sales in my opinion due to no hype and publicity they have decided to concentrate on their software of which they are famous for. It seems that the company you hate to love will be handing games out all round in the near future so hold this spot.
Now the point of this topic is to ask what would have happened if Sega did not stop hardware production and carried on with Dreamcast maybe with a new life ready to take the world by storm with huge price crashes. Well I will be measuring up both sides of this and seeing what would… or could have happened.
Well when the dreamcast originally came out I thought… “What have they done!” but soon realized how wrong I was. I think after the Saturn’s crash most people who bought the dreamcast were already big sega fans anyway. So not many people who were buying a console for the first time actually bought it. Also there were plagues of rumours that the Internet crashed all the time and that the console wouldn’t work and a lot of people certainly that I know were vigorously discouraged by this. Also they waited for a while then went to get a ps2 instead as it came out the year later. So even at the beginning at this great consoles reign it was being incorrectly judged and in my opinion that it is the worst thing that can occur when trying to impress the public with a new console on the market.
But of course things could have been very different it they had gone another way but like most things in life, we will just never know. So first up what would happen if it carried on for another year… or MORE!
**Early 2001**
Sega plan to cut the hardware of the Dc after the almost horrific sales and felt they had nothing left to do.
In a way this could have been a good thing and they could have been trying to pull in the public and it worked… but not enough.
Now here is what have could have happened.
**March 2001**
Sega see that their sales prices are worst ever and know something had to be done. But being the wise old cats they are decide to keep it going for another year, or much longer! The president of the company says that things could only get better but hwo wrong he was…
**Summer 2001**
Sega seem to have realized the DC’s loss and are now really broke to their knees but again decide to keep on going. The console is getting some response but not much and even price cuts wont do it and by now they may as well give the blooming thing away! Their games were good but The public seem to have set up a boycott against purchasing Sega products (or at least that is what the company say) altogether.
**Christmas 2001**
By now it has been creamed forever. People are already forgetting the name of it and even the gimmicks sega re putting in it just wont work. The cancelled half of their games and don’t want to bother translating them to Europe so most people have sold their cleancast… After taking a survey it is reported that second hand Saturn’s are getting better sales than this shattered old girl now.
So everything could have gone bitterly wrong for Sega and although everyone says that going into the software business was a bad idea it just goes to show that this could have happened to our dearly beloved company. In my strong opinion the console business was only a massive let down because no on trusted sega.
Well thank you for reading my account on how it would have gone,
Cheers
Time_Warp
As most here will know, Sega has stopped hardware business of all kind and is now making games for multi-formats because they are so good at them and could make a heap of money out of it. After the Dreamcast’s Awfully lacking sales in my opinion due to no hype and publicity they have decided to concentrate on their software of which they are famous for. It seems that the company you hate to love will be handing games out all round in the near future so hold this spot.
Now the point of this topic is to ask what would have happened if Sega did not stop hardware production and carried on with Dreamcast maybe with a new life ready to take the world by storm with huge price crashes. Well I will be measuring up both sides of this and seeing what would… or could have happened.
Well when the dreamcast originally came out I thought… “What have they done!” but soon realized how wrong I was. I think after the Saturn’s crash most people who bought the dreamcast were already big sega fans anyway. So not many people who were buying a console for the first time actually bought it. Also there were plagues of rumours that the Internet crashed all the time and that the console wouldn’t work and a lot of people certainly that I know were vigorously discouraged by this. Also they waited for a while then went to get a ps2 instead as it came out the year later. So even at the beginning at this great consoles reign it was being incorrectly judged and in my opinion that it is the worst thing that can occur when trying to impress the public with a new console on the market.
But of course things could have been very different it they had gone another way but like most things in life, we will just never know. So first up what would happen if it carried on for another year… or MORE!
**Early 2001**
Sega plan to cut the hardware of the Dc after the almost horrific sales and felt they had nothing left to do.
In a way this could have been a good thing and they could have been trying to pull in the public and it worked… but not enough.
Now here is what have could have happened.
**March 2001**
Sega see that their sales prices are worst ever and know something had to be done. But being the wise old cats they are decide to keep it going for another year, or much longer! The president of the company says that things could only get better but hwo wrong he was…
**Summer 2001**
Sega seem to have realized the DC’s loss and are now really broke to their knees but again decide to keep on going. The console is getting some response but not much and even price cuts wont do it and by now they may as well give the blooming thing away! Their games were good but The public seem to have set up a boycott against purchasing Sega products (or at least that is what the company say) altogether.
**Christmas 2001**
By now it has been creamed forever. People are already forgetting the name of it and even the gimmicks sega re putting in it just wont work. The cancelled half of their games and don’t want to bother translating them to Europe so most people have sold their cleancast… After taking a survey it is reported that second hand Saturn’s are getting better sales than this shattered old girl now.
So everything could have gone bitterly wrong for Sega and although everyone says that going into the software business was a bad idea it just goes to show that this could have happened to our dearly beloved company. In my strong opinion the console business was only a massive let down because no on trusted sega.
Well thank you for reading my account on how it would have gone,
Cheers
Time_Warp
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woaahhh Dan calm down... you just gave me the title I was the one that explored the new angle!
:) All ME!
:P
:) All ME!
:P
er-no wrote:
> Was TW inspired by my recent winning post with date and timing
> predictions????
hmmm..
:)
Which was in turned inspired by whom?
C'mon lads.
Don't forget where the ideas come from ;)
But yes well done FANTASTIC post, same as er-no's - you're both very talented at writing. Congrats.
Dan 2K1
> Was TW inspired by my recent winning post with date and timing
> predictions????
hmmm..
:)
Which was in turned inspired by whom?
C'mon lads.
Don't forget where the ideas come from ;)
But yes well done FANTASTIC post, same as er-no's - you're both very talented at writing. Congrats.
Dan 2K1
Was TW inspired by my recent winning post with date and timing predictions????
hmmm..
:)
hmmm..
:)
One of the problems that Sega faced with the Dreamcast was the reputation they had gained with the Saturn. The Saturn did have it's fans, and probably still does, but the fact of the matter was, it didn't have enough support. Sony, being the massive company that they are, had aquired a lot of the developers for themselves, and if this wasn't the case, then the publishers and developers were favouring the use of the Playstation over the Saturn. An example of this would be Eidos and Core, who made one Tomb Raider for the Saturn, and then you didn't here from them agian, as they were making their Tomb Raider games among other on the Playstation.
Now, then the problem that Sega faced was the possibility that the same could happen with the Dreamcast. But, the PS2 wasn't ougth for another year or so, so developers and publishers started bringing games out for the Dreamcast. Eidos and Core brought out the fourth Tomb Raider and Tomb Raider Chronicles as well as others. Other developers were jumping in with conversions of PC games, as it was so easy to convert PC games to Dreamcast. The problem that the Saturn faced didn't seem to be happening with the Dreamcast. But, the problem was, the only original games were coming from Sega, as a lot of games were PC or Playstation conversions, but with improved graphics and extra features. This could have put a lot of gamers off.
"Ah, I've got that on the PC", they could say, and they would probably not buy it. And another problem was that the Dreamcast would get bundled with lower key games. Of course, when a new game comes out, then there would be a bundle that includes this, but as I said, there were a lot of PC conversions, and if a gamer sees the Dreamcast bundled with games that they already have on the PC, they could be put off. Granted, a similar thing is happening with the PS2, but not as much as it is not as easy for the conversions as it was on the Dreamcast. And the PC conversions on the PS2 had a lot of hype around them, where as the Dreamcast ones hadn't (from what I can remember, anyway).
As with the look at what could have happened, what you said is what most likely would have happened. I have though of a different possibilty.
The Dreamcast hardware is based around Segas Naomi arcade board. Now then, Sega could have, instead of giving up, done the same with the Naomi 2 board that they now use for their arcade games. Because the Naomi 2 board is much more powerful than the first one, a console based around this hardware could have seriously challenged PS2 and the other two consoles, Xbox and Gamecube. And think, the games that are baing made for these consoles now, would instead be made for this console. This means that all of those games being made exclusive on each of these consoles would all be exclusive to the new Sega console, which would have probably be named Dreamcast 2. It would have made a four way console battle, and a much more interesting on as well.
But, Sega are now concentrating on becoming the biggest software developer in the world, so the chances of this happening, or ever coming back into producing consoles again are minimum. Shame that!!!
Now, then the problem that Sega faced was the possibility that the same could happen with the Dreamcast. But, the PS2 wasn't ougth for another year or so, so developers and publishers started bringing games out for the Dreamcast. Eidos and Core brought out the fourth Tomb Raider and Tomb Raider Chronicles as well as others. Other developers were jumping in with conversions of PC games, as it was so easy to convert PC games to Dreamcast. The problem that the Saturn faced didn't seem to be happening with the Dreamcast. But, the problem was, the only original games were coming from Sega, as a lot of games were PC or Playstation conversions, but with improved graphics and extra features. This could have put a lot of gamers off.
"Ah, I've got that on the PC", they could say, and they would probably not buy it. And another problem was that the Dreamcast would get bundled with lower key games. Of course, when a new game comes out, then there would be a bundle that includes this, but as I said, there were a lot of PC conversions, and if a gamer sees the Dreamcast bundled with games that they already have on the PC, they could be put off. Granted, a similar thing is happening with the PS2, but not as much as it is not as easy for the conversions as it was on the Dreamcast. And the PC conversions on the PS2 had a lot of hype around them, where as the Dreamcast ones hadn't (from what I can remember, anyway).
As with the look at what could have happened, what you said is what most likely would have happened. I have though of a different possibilty.
The Dreamcast hardware is based around Segas Naomi arcade board. Now then, Sega could have, instead of giving up, done the same with the Naomi 2 board that they now use for their arcade games. Because the Naomi 2 board is much more powerful than the first one, a console based around this hardware could have seriously challenged PS2 and the other two consoles, Xbox and Gamecube. And think, the games that are baing made for these consoles now, would instead be made for this console. This means that all of those games being made exclusive on each of these consoles would all be exclusive to the new Sega console, which would have probably be named Dreamcast 2. It would have made a four way console battle, and a much more interesting on as well.
But, Sega are now concentrating on becoming the biggest software developer in the world, so the chances of this happening, or ever coming back into producing consoles again are minimum. Shame that!!!
Great post Sam!
In March we saw the ending of the Dreamcast’s production and sega announcing the end of an era and that it was time to go into full time software business for all companies. Well the question on everyone’s mind was if this new change was a start of a great path for sega or a tunnel to the light to heaven for the company.
As most here will know, Sega has stopped hardware business of all kind and is now making games for multi-formats because they are so good at them and could make a heap of money out of it. After the Dreamcast’s Awfully lacking sales in my opinion due to no hype and publicity they have decided to concentrate on their software of which they are famous for. It seems that the company you hate to love will be handing games out all round in the near future so hold this spot.
Now the point of this topic is to ask what would have happened if Sega did not stop hardware production and carried on with Dreamcast maybe with a new life ready to take the world by storm with huge price crashes. Well I will be measuring up both sides of this and seeing what would… or could have happened.
Well when the dreamcast originally came out I thought… “What have they done!” but soon realized how wrong I was. I think after the Saturn’s crash most people who bought the dreamcast were already big sega fans anyway. So not many people who were buying a console for the first time actually bought it. Also there were plagues of rumours that the Internet crashed all the time and that the console wouldn’t work and a lot of people certainly that I know were vigorously discouraged by this. Also they waited for a while then went to get a ps2 instead as it came out the year later. So even at the beginning at this great consoles reign it was being incorrectly judged and in my opinion that it is the worst thing that can occur when trying to impress the public with a new console on the market.
But of course things could have been very different it they had gone another way but like most things in life, we will just never know. So first up what would happen if it carried on for another year… or MORE!
**Early 2001**
Sega plan to cut the hardware of the Dc after the almost horrific sales and felt they had nothing left to do.
In a way this could have been a good thing and they could have been trying to pull in the public and it worked… but not enough.
Now here is what have could have happened.
**March 2001**
Sega see that their sales prices are worst ever and know something had to be done. But being the wise old cats they are decide to keep it going for another year, or much longer! The president of the company says that things could only get better but hwo wrong he was…
**Summer 2001**
Sega seem to have realized the DC’s loss and are now really broke to their knees but again decide to keep on going. The console is getting some response but not much and even price cuts wont do it and by now they may as well give the blooming thing away! Their games were good but The public seem to have set up a boycott against purchasing Sega products (or at least that is what the company say) altogether.
**Christmas 2001**
By now it has been creamed forever. People are already forgetting the name of it and even the gimmicks sega re putting in it just wont work. The cancelled half of their games and don’t want to bother translating them to Europe so most people have sold their cleancast… After taking a survey it is reported that second hand Saturn’s are getting better sales than this shattered old girl now.
So everything could have gone bitterly wrong for Sega and although everyone says that going into the software business was a bad idea it just goes to show that this could have happened to our dearly beloved company. In my strong opinion the console business was only a massive let down because no on trusted sega.
Well thank you for reading my account on how it would have gone,
Cheers
Time_Warp
As most here will know, Sega has stopped hardware business of all kind and is now making games for multi-formats because they are so good at them and could make a heap of money out of it. After the Dreamcast’s Awfully lacking sales in my opinion due to no hype and publicity they have decided to concentrate on their software of which they are famous for. It seems that the company you hate to love will be handing games out all round in the near future so hold this spot.
Now the point of this topic is to ask what would have happened if Sega did not stop hardware production and carried on with Dreamcast maybe with a new life ready to take the world by storm with huge price crashes. Well I will be measuring up both sides of this and seeing what would… or could have happened.
Well when the dreamcast originally came out I thought… “What have they done!” but soon realized how wrong I was. I think after the Saturn’s crash most people who bought the dreamcast were already big sega fans anyway. So not many people who were buying a console for the first time actually bought it. Also there were plagues of rumours that the Internet crashed all the time and that the console wouldn’t work and a lot of people certainly that I know were vigorously discouraged by this. Also they waited for a while then went to get a ps2 instead as it came out the year later. So even at the beginning at this great consoles reign it was being incorrectly judged and in my opinion that it is the worst thing that can occur when trying to impress the public with a new console on the market.
But of course things could have been very different it they had gone another way but like most things in life, we will just never know. So first up what would happen if it carried on for another year… or MORE!
**Early 2001**
Sega plan to cut the hardware of the Dc after the almost horrific sales and felt they had nothing left to do.
In a way this could have been a good thing and they could have been trying to pull in the public and it worked… but not enough.
Now here is what have could have happened.
**March 2001**
Sega see that their sales prices are worst ever and know something had to be done. But being the wise old cats they are decide to keep it going for another year, or much longer! The president of the company says that things could only get better but hwo wrong he was…
**Summer 2001**
Sega seem to have realized the DC’s loss and are now really broke to their knees but again decide to keep on going. The console is getting some response but not much and even price cuts wont do it and by now they may as well give the blooming thing away! Their games were good but The public seem to have set up a boycott against purchasing Sega products (or at least that is what the company say) altogether.
**Christmas 2001**
By now it has been creamed forever. People are already forgetting the name of it and even the gimmicks sega re putting in it just wont work. The cancelled half of their games and don’t want to bother translating them to Europe so most people have sold their cleancast… After taking a survey it is reported that second hand Saturn’s are getting better sales than this shattered old girl now.
So everything could have gone bitterly wrong for Sega and although everyone says that going into the software business was a bad idea it just goes to show that this could have happened to our dearly beloved company. In my strong opinion the console business was only a massive let down because no on trusted sega.
Well thank you for reading my account on how it would have gone,
Cheers
Time_Warp
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