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Thu 05/08/04 at 13:35
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[URL]http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/6456/Microsoft-Interested-in-Buying-Nintendo[/URL]

Discuss.
Sat 28/08/04 at 13:24
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Edgy wrote:
> While you mention Nintendo being in the courts for their 'dirty
> tricks', let me remind you Microsoft have often been reported in the
> new for having being taken to court and having rulings made against
> them due to their dirty tricks.
>
> Service Pack 1 for Windows XP was a result of one of the cases.

So there equal? No its not. Nintendo made a big mistake they had done it for years as well ripping money off people a lot longer than Microsoft did.
Sat 28/08/04 at 12:50
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While you mention Nintendo being in the courts for their 'dirty tricks', let me remind you Microsoft have often been reported in the new for having being taken to court and having rulings made against them due to their dirty tricks.

Service Pack 1 for Windows XP was a result of one of the cases.
Sat 28/08/04 at 12:34
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Strafio wrote:
> Foszy wrote:
>
> And tell me again how there immoral, was it for doing what every
> business usually wants to do but hasnt done as well as Microsoft?
>
> Using every dirty trick in the trade to monopolise the market?
> I mean there's doing well, and there's crushing anyone who so much as
> offers an alternative.

MS only monopolised the market because there product was so amazingly good when it first came out. They dont crush there competitiors look at Macintosh. You seem to think they use dirty tricks, they dont break the law and are therefore not really dirty. Nintendo have done more dirty tricks a massive price scandal in Europe, remember that?

> Maybe most business head offices would do similar if they got the
> chance, but they'd be resented likewise.
>
>
> You will find they probably would like a takeover, there lifes
> probably do revolve around Nintendo but they would most likely own
> shares in the company, a buy out could see them getting a very large
> amount of money.
>
> Yeah, but they'd be owned by a foreign company.
> It's like this Russian buying out Chelsea.
> Sure Chelsea get money out of it and the like, but the way he throws
> money at them to buy a super eam, it's almost like they're losing
> their identity.

Seems like you seem jealous about finance, who you support then :P

> Basically, as a more understandable example, a large portion of Rare
> staff walked out when they heard they'd be working for the big MS.

Umm no they didnt it was known a very few amount of people did, and plus people have said they prefer to programme for the Xbox as they get to push there projects to new levels they dont have to worry about polygon count and things like that.

> You saying that Nintendo is running perfectly?
>
> No, but it's running their way that lets them do things that way, and
> that's why they're so valuable in the first place.

MS will realise this, there not stupid they know the company is successful and there way of doing things is working, but they can always make a few squeaks.

> Your probably right but if they made a few simple clear i dont think
> it would affect them that badly. If anything if there department had
> more money they might be pleased by a takeover. If your a programmer
> and you can only do a certain amount of stuff due to funding and the
> sytem your designing for isnt powerful enough for your ideas you
> might find workign for microsft games better. Many programmers have
> said they prefer to work on Xbox games because they can do more.
>
> But Nintendo aren't some small studio desperate for budget.
> They already have all the resources they need to make games, and more
> if they ask for them. The difference is that the financers they're
> trying to have an understanding with will come from a different world
> with different ideals.
>
>
>
> But hey, we can always dream of that colaboration! ;-)

One day it will be done.
Sat 28/08/04 at 00:53
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People whine about MS...

Strafio is right, it's about time people realised that Nintendo aren't a small company...

They are MASSIVE, offices in London, Germany, America, China, Japan...

12 development teams, people dedicated to inventing new hardware ideas... $4 million fund for upcoming developers...

Oh and a large stake in toy Jugganaught Bandai.

They made a killing out of their cheap controller device released in China last year.

3 new Pokemon movies have opened in the last 12 months in Cinema's throughout Japan.

The Gameboy is selling way ahead of expectations.

The NES classics, a small non-profit idea to pay homage to the NES has somehow managed to eat up the majority of the software in the Japanese charts. Much to Nintendo's surprise.

Nintendo remind me of Harvest Moon. Lets say the Gamecube is the milk, sometimes you make some money off of it and at other times you aren't making any money at all. But it's okay because you are still selling straw to Van and making a killing. But whose interested in that part of the game?
Fri 27/08/04 at 19:19
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"gsybe you!"
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I don't doubt it.

Just people whine about Nintendo and ignore MS.
Fri 27/08/04 at 19:18
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All businesses are like that. Their main priority is to survive, and expanding, buying out/eliminating the comp etc. are all ways to do that. Nintendo were monopolisitic in America during the early nineties, essentially bullying retailers to adapt to their demands, and not how trade was done traditionally.
Fri 27/08/04 at 19:16
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"gsybe you!"
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Strafio wrote:
> Foszy wrote:
>
> And tell me again how there immoral, was it for doing what every
> business usually wants to do but hasnt done as well as Microsoft?
>
> Using every dirty trick in the trade to monopolise the market?
> I mean there's doing well, and there's crushing anyone who so much as
> offers an alternative.
>

Tis funny. People always get at Nintendo for fixing prices in the N64-era.

And yet MS got done for monopolisation.

Hah.
Fri 27/08/04 at 19:14
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Foszy wrote:

> And tell me again how there immoral, was it for doing what every
> business usually wants to do but hasnt done as well as Microsoft?

Using every dirty trick in the trade to monopolise the market?
I mean there's doing well, and there's crushing anyone who so much as offers an alternative.

Maybe most business head offices would do similar if they got the chance, but they'd be resented likewise.


> You will find they probably would like a takeover, there lifes
> probably do revolve around Nintendo but they would most likely own
> shares in the company, a buy out could see them getting a very large
> amount of money.

Yeah, but they'd be owned by a foreign company.
It's like this Russian buying out Chelsea.
Sure Chelsea get money out of it and the like, but the way he throws money at them to buy a super eam, it's almost like they're losing their identity.

Basically, as a more understandable example, a large portion of Rare staff walked out when they heard they'd be working for the big MS.


> You saying that Nintendo is running perfectly?

No, but it's running their way that lets them do things that way, and that's why they're so valuable in the first place.



> Your probably right but if they made a few simple clear i dont think
> it would affect them that badly. If anything if there department had
> more money they might be pleased by a takeover. If your a programmer
> and you can only do a certain amount of stuff due to funding and the
> sytem your designing for isnt powerful enough for your ideas you
> might find workign for microsft games better. Many programmers have
> said they prefer to work on Xbox games because they can do more.

But Nintendo aren't some small studio desperate for budget.
They already have all the resources they need to make games, and more if they ask for them. The difference is that the financers they're trying to have an understanding with will come from a different world with different ideals.



But hey, we can always dream of that colaboration! ;-)
Fri 27/08/04 at 17:51
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Nintendo have said themselves that they're a family company. They make games that can be enjoyed by everyone.

Fin. End of. Done.
Fri 27/08/04 at 17:24
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"ProGolfer"
Posts: 2,085
Strafio wrote:
> A MS buyout would be bad news.
>
> You know how a lot of programmers are very actively against MS'
> business ethics? Well I can see lots of Nintendo staff sort of not
> liking supporting an "immoral and foreign" company, sort
> of. :-)

And tell me again how there immoral, was it for doing what every business usually wants to do but hasnt done as well as Microsoft?

> Not that they'd go on strike or leave in droves, but it would
> probably be enough to take their hearts off their work a bit, which
> could sort of... you know, knock Nintendo's productivity just for
> that.

You will find they probably would like a takeover, there lifes probably do revolve around Nintendo but they would most likely own shares in the company, a buy out could see them getting a very large amount of money.

> And that's providing MS would let everything else stay status quo...

You saying that Nintendo is running perfectly?

> I've probably put this badly, but psychology of being owned by
> rivals, might work badly for Nintendo's staff. Sort of? :-)

Your probably right but if they made a few simple clear i dont think it would affect them that badly. If anything if there department had more money they might be pleased by a takeover. If your a programmer and you can only do a certain amount of stuff due to funding and the sytem your designing for isnt powerful enough for your ideas you might find workign for microsft games better. Many programmers have said they prefer to work on Xbox games because they can do more.

> A collaberation though, that would be spectacular.
> Both parties would be fueled with enthusiasm and would have equal say
> and control on their respective ideals and the like.

Cant agree more. Would be amazing hopefully.

> And then the gamer's dream:
> MS technology with hardcore western games, on the same plate with
> Nintendo's innovations and trippy eastern output.
> And then that crazy company from Twycross who are
> eastern/western/hardcore/fun/god knows what else....
>
>
> Live, wireless DS, etc...

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