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Sat 04/09/04 at 02:19
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If you are an X-box owner you will almost definatly be getting Halo 2, maybe Fable, but definatly Halo 2.

As a PS2 owner you will almost certainly be getting GTA: San Andreas and GT4 is very likely, although more for the car fans out there.

But it isn't as clear cut on the Gamecube.

I don't mean there isn't a big hitter because there is. What I mean is Nintendo are catering for the big picture. They are catering for everyone.

I'm not going to say Nintendo are the best. I'm not saying Nintendo will get to the top spot. Nor am I saying that they'll out sell the opposition. I just imagine that Nintendo won't have this "rotten" Christmas, some of you earthlings are predicting.

My reason is thus. Halo 2 is a sequel to the game that sold the X-box. Almost 100% of X-box owners will get it but will it attract as large a crowd as the original? Some yes, but as many? Certainly not. It will hit the top spot but it may also damage the X-box image. People already see the console as a FPS system with a few added racers and adventure titles. Halo 2 does not change that. And if you don't like FPS's... then why get an X-box?

The PS2 is in the same boat, both the games Sony are realising have pretty much done all the selling it's going to do. It is also appealing to a narrow market and Sony have suffered a big loss with Pro evo going to the X-box.

Now Nintendo's games are also sequels... but these games aren't commercial... and they aren't as well known.... and they haven't finished selling Gamecubes.

For starters. For those pure at heart Nintendo fans, we have Pikmin 2. A game that has a whiff of Mario, the magic of Zelda and the polish of Metroid. Nintendo at their very best. It will please the fan base and many a Nintendo fan will buy a copy.

For the Kids, a market left untouched by Sony and Microsoft this Christmas, and when I say kids I mean kids... I mean 6,7,8,9... actual children. Paper Mario 2, a game that is fun to play for adults but is almost 100% aimed at Children.

Metroid Prime has been given a second chance to impress. The original sold well but not even in the same league as Halo (although it did get a higher chart position) or GTA... a game that sold some Gamecube's. But unlike Halo its one week success faded away. Adult gamers, bored of all the Halo hype... potentially dissappointed by Halo 2 (with all the hype how does it hope to live up to expectations).

And then Donkey Konga. This game is pure Christmas novalty waiting to take off. Again where is the silly party game this Christmas on the rival formats? Nintendo almost exclusivly have these type of games.



Before I get assaulted for my Nintendo bashing here I know Nintendo aren't going to win. Metroid Prime 2 and Tales of Symphonia are a great FPS and RPG respectivly but commercially they can't hope to topple Halo 2 and Fable.

But Nintendo's trump card is with the smaller games... Pikmin 2... Paper Mario 2... Donkey Konga. These games have next to no competition.

As a Nintendo fan I'll be loving Pikmin 2, playing Paper Mario 2 with my little brother, enjoying Donkey Konga with a beer and 3 mates... oh and getting in some Metroid Prime time (which hopefully with a Christmas release will enjoy a larger fan base).

As an X-box owner I'll be playing Halo 2 online and I'll shoot some people in GTA on the PS2... again.

See my point in regards of width of appeal?

Maybe "FOR EVERYONE" isn't such a bad idea.
Sun 05/09/04 at 23:47
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gerrid wrote:
> GAME sells GC games for £40 new.

What Game do you go into then?
Sun 05/09/04 at 22:21
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gerrid wrote:
> Although Super Tennis on the SNES comes very, very close.

Aha. That's the one. SUCKS.
Sun 05/09/04 at 22:09
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GAME sells GC games for £40 new.

Also, Virtua Tennis on the DC is still the best tennis game in existence. Although Super Tennis on the SNES comes very, very close.
Sun 05/09/04 at 22:09
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Yes, but the people that know what they're on about usually already have a Gamecube, and its best games. THe people that "know" Mario Tennis is a good game don't need attracted, they've already been attracted.

But it's not going to attract people who don't know all that much about games, and it won't attract people who on't like Tennis.

I've never liked a tennis game in my life.Apparantly "Super Smash Tennis" or soemthing was one of the best games on the SNES, my brother has/d it and I despised every moment of it.

Tennis games suck.
Sun 05/09/04 at 22:03
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Well, people will be attracted to a tennis game - people that actually know what they're on about, not some clueless moron strolling through GAME.
Sun 05/09/04 at 21:58
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Hmmm.
Still, if you ask me, people aren't going to be attracted to a tennis game all that much.

*Random customer in shop*
"Hmmm, this Gamecube, it's most appealing game here is a tennis game. Hmmm. Tennis."
"Oh, this PS2, appealing game, you're a criminal, drive around, steal cars, kill people. Blah blah. Sounds fun."
"Oh, this X-box, you go around shooting aliens in this "Halo 2" game. Sounds alright. Bang bang. Shoot."

"Let me weigh up my choices. Go around shooting aliens. Go around stealing cars, running people over. Shooting them, flying helicopters, driving monster trucks. Hmmm. Play tennis"
Sun 05/09/04 at 21:54
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With Golf, yeah.
But with Tennis you get some actually interesting stuff like super-moves and all the different types of fun matches which makes Mario Tennis much better than the next generic tennis sim.
Sun 05/09/04 at 21:48
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Ashman wrote:
> Mario Tennis 'must have'.

Eh?
What makes it better than any other generic Tennis game?

It's like "Mario golf, OMG, that game rocks" but it's the same as PGA tour 96 on the Mega Drive, with Mario.

It is.
Sun 05/09/04 at 21:40
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The level of good posts would increase, but so would the amount of retard spam.
The good would probably outweigh the bad, though.
Sun 05/09/04 at 20:39
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The reason that posts like this and general intelligent discussion has declined in the recent past is that SR removed GAD1. If they brought it back, I almost garauntee that the quality of the forums would increase.

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