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Im thinking about a console swap because I dont play my 'Cube anymore and say this deal on ebay..

The Xbox they give you is this:

The xbox is moded with an XBIT Mod Chip with newest bios. XBIT chip has all mod features (emulation, Harddrive swap etc)Comes with cable and software to allow you to flash the chip when a newer bios comes out.(If you want to of course.)
Full Newest Version of Evox installed.

The following emulators will also be installed on the xbox:

XBOY_Advance – Gameboy Color
Koleko-X - Colecovision
Uaex - Amiga
blissx - Intellivision
fceultra - NES
neogenesis – Sega Megadrive
smsplusx – Sega Mastersystem
stella – Atari VCS
xsnes9x - SNES
vice64x – Commodore 64

The Following Apps are installed on the XBOX:

XBMP
DVD2HD
Xcommander
Xtoolbox
Boxexplorer
Complextools
+ a lot more


Xbox plays:

All Region Games .(MultiRegion)
All BAck Up Games
All Region dvds.(MultiRegion) With out the need of the dvd kit.

The Xbox is fitted with a standard size Hard Drive.

Games are back ups on Ritek G04 Dye Dvds (Best for XBOX) with the official Disk cover printed on the dvd or installed onto a larger hard drive(see HD upgrades above) at the buyers request.

And you get 30 games all in for 240 notes.

These are the games

GAME
4x4 Evolution 2
Airforce Delta Storm
Alias
Aliens versus Predator Extinction
All Star Baseball 2005
Alternate Echo
Amped
Amped 2
Antz Extreme Racing
Armed and Dangerous
Army Men Sarges War
Artic Thunder
ATV Quad Power Racing
Auto Modellista
Azurik Rise of Perathia
Bad Boys 2
Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance 2
Barbarian
Barbie
Batman Vengeance
Battle Engine Aquila
Battlestar Galactica
Bionicle
Blood Omen 2
Blood Rayne
Blood Wake
Bloody Roar Extreme
Breakdown
Bruce Lee
Brute Force
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Burnout 2 Point of Impact
Capcom Vs SNK 2
Carve
Catwomen
Chase Hollywood Stunt Driver
Circus Maximus
colin Mcrae Rally 2004
Commandos 2 Men of Courage
Conflict Desert Storm 1
Conflict Desert Storm 2
Counter Strike
Crash Bandicoot Wrath of Cortex
Crimson Sea
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Dark Summit
Dead Mans Hand
Dead or Alive 3
Dead to Rights
Deathrow
Deer Hunter
Deus Ex Invisible War
Dr Suess Cat in the Hat
Dragons Lair 3d
Driver 3
Dungeons and Dragons Heroes
Dynasty Warriors 4
Enclave
Enter the Matrix
ESPN NBA Basketball
Evil Dead Fistful of Boomsticks
Fifa 2004
Fight Night 2004
Finding Nemo
Freedom Fighters
Full Spectrum Warrior
Furious Karting
Fusion Frenzy
Futurama
Future Tactics The Uprising
Gaunlett Dark Legacy
Ghost Recon
Grabbed by the Ghoulies
Grand Theft Auto 3
Grand Theft Auto Vice City
Gun Metal
Halo
Harry Potter Chamber of Secrets
Harry Potter Quidditch World Cup
Harry Potter Sorcerors Stone
Harry Potter The Prisoner of Azkaban
Haunted Mansion
Hit Man
Hit Man 2 Silent Assassin
Hit Man 3 Contracts
House of the dead 3
Hunter the Reckoning
Hunter the Reckoning Redeemer
I Ninja
International Superstar Soccer 2
James Bond 007 Agent Under Fire
James Bond 007 Everything or Nothing
James Bond 007 Night Fire
Jet Set Radio Future
Kill Switch
Kingdom Under Fire Crusaders
LMA Manager 2004
Lord of the Rings The Return of the King
Lord of the Rings The Two Towers
Mace Griffin Bounty Hunter
Mad Dash
Madden 2004
Mafia
Magic The Gathering Battle Grounds
Malice
Man Utd Club Football
Manhunt
Mashed
Max Payne 2 Fall of Max Payne
Maximum Chase
Medal of Honor Frontline
Medal of Honor Rising Sun
Metal Arms Glitch in the system
Minority Report
Mission Impossible Op Surma
Mortal Combat Deadly Alliance
Moto GP 2
Murakumo Renegade Mech Pursuit
MX Unleashed
Myst 3 Exile
Nascar Thunder 2002
NBA Ballers
Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2
Need for Speed Underground
Need for Speed Underground 2 Juiced
NFL Blitz Pro
NFL Fever 2004
NHL 2003
Nickelodeon Party Blast
Nightcaster
Ninja Gaiden
Oddworld Munchs Oddysee
Otogi Myth of Demons
Outlaw Golf 9 More Holes for Xmas
Outlaw Vollyball
Panzer Dragon Orta
Phantom Crash
Pirates of the Carribian
Pitfall The Lost Expidition
Prince of Persia Sands of Time
Pro Cast Sports Fishing
Project Gotham Racing
Project Gotham Racing 2
Project Zero
PSI Ops The Mindgate Conspiracy
Pure Pinball
Quad Power Racing
Red Faction 2
Reign of Fire
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Road Kill
Robin Hood Defender of the Crown
Rocky
Rolling
Room Zoom
Run like hell
Samurai Warriors
Scooby Doo Night of 1000 Frights
Sea Blade
Secret Weapons over Normandy
Sega GT
Sega GT Online
Serious Sam
Shadow Ops Red Mercury
Shemue 2
Shikigami no Shimo
Shikigami no shimo 2
Shrek 2
Shreks Super Party
Silent Hill 4 The Room
Silent Scope Complete (1,2,3)
Simpsons Road Rage
Soldier of Fortune Double Helix
Soul Caliber
Soul Caliber 2
Spawn
Speed Kings
SpiderMan
SpiderMan 2
Splinter Cell
Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow
Sponge Bob
Spynx the Cursed Mummy
SSX Tricky
SSX Tricky 3
Star Wars Clone Wars
Star Wars Jedi Knight 2 Jedi Outcast
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic
Star Wars Starfighter SE
Starsky and Hutch
Steel Battalion Line of Contact
Sudeki
Superman The Man of Steel
SWAT Global Strike Team
Syberia
TAZ Wanted
Tenchu Return from Darkness
Terminator Dawn of Fate
Terminator Rise of the Machines
The Cat in the Hat
The Chronicles of Riddick
The Gallion
The Great Escape
The Hobbit
The Hulk
The Italian Job
The Suffering
Thief Deadly Shadows
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2003
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004
TOCA Race Driver 2
Toejam and Earl III
Tom and Jerry War of the Whiskers
Tom Clancy Rainbow Six 3
Tom Clancy Rainbow Six 3 Black Arrow
Tony Hawks Pro Skater 4
Top Spin
Transworld Surf
True Crimes Streets of LA
Turok Evolution
TY the Tazmanian Tiger
UEFA EURO 2004
Van Helsing
Wakeboarding Unleashed
Whacked
Wings of War Gathering
World Championship Rugby
World Championship Snooker 2004
Worms 3D
Xiii
Yager
Yu-Gi-Oh Dawn of Destiny

So you get to choose 30 of these and get a modded xbox. But what about the whole Xbox modding thing? I've never really been into that because copied games never played as well as originals. Will this be a problem?

Link here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/ (SPACE) ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8131117028

But you can chuck the 20 quid postage cuz i'd go pick it up.

Seams like a good deal, but quite shady at the same time.

Opinions please!

Cheers

-GasMask

Dringo wrote:
> then people pirate games and then
> major publisher like Acclaim, Codemasters and Capcom either go
> Bankcrupt or start struggling.

More likely they went bankrupt because they arent making games which are appealing to enough people.

Hedfix wrote:
> Modded xbox on live WITH your credit card details?
>
> No thanks.

you have a point

There's a reason there won't be more Turok games - Turok: Evolution was crap. Nothing to do with piracy that time, just a bad, bad game, which did enjoy good sales until everyone realised it stank, and SR had to give it away for free.

Beyond Good and evil is an example of a top title that will never get a sequel because it barely made ubi-soft the money back they invested in it. It took just under 2 years to make, 2 years and what they got was a poor selling title they had to try and sell at a cheap price. Hoping to make some come back on it.

In the end Ubi-soft made a loss on what is described as the finest adventure title since Zelda.

Piracy means we won't get a sequel to this game, piracy means that we're unlikey to ever see Turok return to it's great routes. Piracy means that even the billion selling Playstation franchise struggles to compete profit wise with Nintendo... a company flagging in the console war.

The entire industry is a victim of piracy. Sony have to rely on income from their machine rather than the few games they publish. Microsoft rely on income from their online service, after all their system doesn't make a cent.

Nintendo are alright, it is harder to pirate Gamecube and GBA titles (pirating GBA titles, unless you put loads of old games on one cart, is hardly worth it) and so they can make money from software. But less people buy Nintendo's machine because it can't be pirated.

The Ique in China was a genius idea. Fight the pirates.

The amount of money thrown about by movie companies is absurd. Think that nearly 10 years ago it cost $100 million to make crap like Waterworld, and no-one even bats an eyelid at that amount nowadays. The forecast for payback is set in years, unlike most games which only have a window of a few weeks to really hit the charts and make their sales impact. That's why I hate piracy in videogames, because the missing money really can make a difference.

Software differs slightly because what we normally get now is a new version of an old product, so if it's not up-to-scratch, the developers will know it by flagging sales and put a bit more effort in the next year. But it's almost like an unwritten contract that we update our favourite software when the new release comes out. The older version may do the same job, but it hasn't got this year's date on it!!5

gamesfreak wrote:

> And there was something Michael Moore said in an interview after he
> released Bowling for Columbine and Farenheit 9/11.
>
> "I don’t agree with the copyright laws and I don’t have a
> problem with people downloading the movie and sharing it with people
> as long as they’re not trying to make a profit off my labour. I would
> oppose that,
>
> I do well enough already and I made this film because I want the
> world, to change. The more people who see it the better, so I’m happy
> this is happening.
>
> Is it wrong for someone who’s bought a film on DVD to let a friend
> watch it for free? Of course it’s not. It never has been and
> never will be. I think information, art and ideas should be
> shared."
>
>
That's fine if the creator of the movie wants it that way. It's clear in this case his main motive is to get his opinion out (the movie itself is classed as a documentary). But for the majority of movies, where huuuuuge budgets are spent, a massive return on their investment is expected; at the very least they need to break even. After all, you can hardly say that Spider-Man 2 had a message that needed to be put out (crappy jokes aside).

Games are approaching movie like budgets. The reason why they need to mark up their prices is because they have no cinema; whereas DVDs for films are after sales for the main attraction so to speak, games on shelves are the only time they can get a return on revenue. Aside from ingame advertising and other promotional deals of course.

To be fair games prices are slowly decreasing, if you are paying more than £30 for your games well... you shouldn't be.

But unlike the music industry (although it is struggling) the games industry is falling. More and more people play games, but games are costing more to make, people demand better quality, which takes more time, which costs more money... then people pirate games and then major publisher like Acclaim, Codemasters and Capcom either go Bankcrupt or start struggling.

Notorious Biggles wrote:
> I see what you are saying, and most of the big companies realise that
> now. Hence the Nintendo iQue. Perhaps the rest of them will indeed
> pay attention.

The Nintendo iQue is a start, but there again, it's a far step from the current consoles.

If game company's lowered the price of their games to say, £10 - £15 (the price of an average album or DVD), games would become more affordable to purchase. £40 is just ridicoulous, and before people start saying "well I'm willing to pay that", maybe you have the money for that. You do, others don't.

Some people can only afford maybe 1 or 2 games a year because of this, how sad is that?

gamesfreak wrote:
> Many people don't agree with piracy, but to be honest, there's
> nothing you can do about it, it still happens. I bet 90% of people in
> this thread have downloaded music one time or another.

This is indeed true. Music downloading however, research has shown, has actually created sales. I know for instance that I buy a lot more CDs than I used to. Mainly because I know of people like Michael Angelo now.

But games aren't like that. You don't get a taster of them and then decide to buy the actual thing. You get a pirate to get out of paying for it.

> And put it this way, People who are unfortuanate enough to live in
> more poverty stricken country, their only way of affording to have
> the enjoyment of playing a game is to get a downloaded or pirated
> version.
>
> Why deprive them of this aspect? Or would you rather keep them priced
> at £40

I see what you are saying, and most of the big companies realise that now. Hence the Nintendo iQue. Perhaps the rest of them will indeed pay attention.