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As a Nintendo fan i've really despaired at how well (or not) the Gamecube has done sales wise.
We all know that one of Nintendos biggest downfalls is its inability to commission any really good advertising.
The current news also indicates that Nintendo are on a rocky financial footing and are looking to the GBA / DS to keep them afloat.
The loss of some of the big names in game production during the Gamecubes life hasn't helped but can you blame any company for pulling the plug when outlay exceeds income!
Will the success of the GBA/DS really decide Nintendos fate or will someone at the top finally get to grips with some real 'in yer face' advertising for their next home console?
Heres hoping................!!!
We all know that one of Nintendos biggest downfalls is its inability to commission any really good advertising.
The current news also indicates that Nintendo are on a rocky financial footing and are looking to the GBA / DS to keep them afloat.
The loss of some of the big names in game production during the Gamecubes life hasn't helped but can you blame any company for pulling the plug when outlay exceeds income!
Will the success of the GBA/DS really decide Nintendos fate or will someone at the top finally get to grips with some real 'in yer face' advertising for their next home console?
Heres hoping................!!!
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Good point that. Nintendo's advertising on TV, newspapers etc. for Gamecube was fine - most adverts were appealing. Howeever, it's well known that store space (at least at the big retailers i.e. GAME) are bought, and Nintendo need to invest more there; take over where the games are bought at the point of sale.
Mind you, another problem with their media campaign wasn't the quality of their adverts, but rather the quantity; like MS before Xbox, they had to spend much more than the competition to secure a strong place, but Nintendo, while spending a lot, never reached the standards of MS and Sony. Not a bad thing, as too much advertising may not be worth it, but it's the reason why Nintendo are last in the console race.
Mind you, another problem with their media campaign wasn't the quality of their adverts, but rather the quantity; like MS before Xbox, they had to spend much more than the competition to secure a strong place, but Nintendo, while spending a lot, never reached the standards of MS and Sony. Not a bad thing, as too much advertising may not be worth it, but it's the reason why Nintendo are last in the console race.
Apple Crumble wrote:
> While advertising is a problem, I feel the major reasons Nintendo are
> going downhill is because of the introduction of a new rival
> (Microsoft), lack of adult material, loosing out to big name
> compainies (Acclaim) and no online play.
But there in lies the problem.
That is the whole point isn't it. I agree with what you say but companies like Acclaim would never of left if the money was coming in. Game companies would produce more mature games for the console if the money was coming in. Microsoft wouldn't be doing so well if Nintendo had a better grip on the market. That is the crux of the problem. Nintendo HAVE to get it right with their advertising. They HAVE to reach out to adult gamers. But they can only do this if they advertise properly. I still speak to people who dont even know what the Gamecube is!! I've also said it before that the game shops dont help. I walked in to my local GAME store a few weeks ago and I thought the Gamecube display was piddly! I walked in again last week only to see that the piddly area had been reduced even more! If it continues at this pace they'll be no Gamecube space at all by next month. A bit of an exaggeration i know but you see my point!
> While advertising is a problem, I feel the major reasons Nintendo are
> going downhill is because of the introduction of a new rival
> (Microsoft), lack of adult material, loosing out to big name
> compainies (Acclaim) and no online play.
But there in lies the problem.
That is the whole point isn't it. I agree with what you say but companies like Acclaim would never of left if the money was coming in. Game companies would produce more mature games for the console if the money was coming in. Microsoft wouldn't be doing so well if Nintendo had a better grip on the market. That is the crux of the problem. Nintendo HAVE to get it right with their advertising. They HAVE to reach out to adult gamers. But they can only do this if they advertise properly. I still speak to people who dont even know what the Gamecube is!! I've also said it before that the game shops dont help. I walked in to my local GAME store a few weeks ago and I thought the Gamecube display was piddly! I walked in again last week only to see that the piddly area had been reduced even more! If it continues at this pace they'll be no Gamecube space at all by next month. A bit of an exaggeration i know but you see my point!
Xbox > GC > Everything else > PS2 > PS1
Nintendo just rocks to nintendo fans nintendo dont have much way to get a award of best next generation console ps2 is better and different to nintendo,ps2 gots abbility to watch dvds,play awsome games andplay trhough net with the new ps2 its ready for net play but nintendo cant have that way for the best console only the real nintendo fans accepted to be tghe best console and i dont think its the best console i mean nintendo consoles will never rock so much like Playstation 2,Xbox. nintendo tryes to get better console than ps2,xbox but i dont think it got the chance to put down ps2,xbox.
While advertising is a problem, I feel the major reasons Nintendo are going downhill is because of the introduction of a new rival (Microsoft), lack of adult material, loosing out to big name compainies (Acclaim) and no online play.
If Nintendo want the Revolution to suceed, it will have to imrpove on those downfalls. Obviously they can't ask companies to make games for them again, but companies like EA they will need to take advantage of, and their own brand of games needs to be able to complete with the exclusive titles on the other formats.
And online play is basically essential :)
As for the DS, I think it will do better than the PSP. It will probably have better games, it's at a much lower price and the touchscreen/voice controls will attract many gamers looking for something new.
They say the Big 'N' never let us down. Well in the next few years we'll see if they can live up to that statement.
If Nintendo want the Revolution to suceed, it will have to imrpove on those downfalls. Obviously they can't ask companies to make games for them again, but companies like EA they will need to take advantage of, and their own brand of games needs to be able to complete with the exclusive titles on the other formats.
And online play is basically essential :)
As for the DS, I think it will do better than the PSP. It will probably have better games, it's at a much lower price and the touchscreen/voice controls will attract many gamers looking for something new.
They say the Big 'N' never let us down. Well in the next few years we'll see if they can live up to that statement.
Hedfix wrote:
> Actually I couldn't care less about the advertising.
>
> I'd like to see a heavy commitment to online gaming, a controller
> more suited to FPS games and a HD with the next console.
>
> and some more mature multiplayer orientated games.
Yeh, but as with the Gamecube, if the 'casual gamer' doesnt even know the console exists the online gaming and all associated extras you want to see just wont happen. The cash has got flow before anything else!
> Actually I couldn't care less about the advertising.
>
> I'd like to see a heavy commitment to online gaming, a controller
> more suited to FPS games and a HD with the next console.
>
> and some more mature multiplayer orientated games.
Yeh, but as with the Gamecube, if the 'casual gamer' doesnt even know the console exists the online gaming and all associated extras you want to see just wont happen. The cash has got flow before anything else!
Actually I couldn't care less about the advertising.
I'd like to see a heavy commitment to online gaming, a controller more suited to FPS games and a HD with the next console.
and some more mature multiplayer orientated games.
I'd like to see a heavy commitment to online gaming, a controller more suited to FPS games and a HD with the next console.
and some more mature multiplayer orientated games.
As a Nintendo fan i've really despaired at how well (or not) the Gamecube has done sales wise.
We all know that one of Nintendos biggest downfalls is its inability to commission any really good advertising.
The current news also indicates that Nintendo are on a rocky financial footing and are looking to the GBA / DS to keep them afloat.
The loss of some of the big names in game production during the Gamecubes life hasn't helped but can you blame any company for pulling the plug when outlay exceeds income!
Will the success of the GBA/DS really decide Nintendos fate or will someone at the top finally get to grips with some real 'in yer face' advertising for their next home console?
Heres hoping................!!!
We all know that one of Nintendos biggest downfalls is its inability to commission any really good advertising.
The current news also indicates that Nintendo are on a rocky financial footing and are looking to the GBA / DS to keep them afloat.
The loss of some of the big names in game production during the Gamecubes life hasn't helped but can you blame any company for pulling the plug when outlay exceeds income!
Will the success of the GBA/DS really decide Nintendos fate or will someone at the top finally get to grips with some real 'in yer face' advertising for their next home console?
Heres hoping................!!!
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