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Is a knuckleduster an offensive weapon and what's the worst that can happen to you if the police catch you with it? Can they charge you with possession of an offensive weapon? One of my mates got arrested for having it, but being the bright spark he is said he "just found it". Didn't stop the police choppers chasing him. Got the 'cuffs on him, just wondering what's the worst that could happen to him.
Couple of other crimes I'm interested in what the worst case scenario is. You might know that East London is famous (or at least round here it is) for having "green" houses, which are literally filled with cannabis. Some mates stole 4kg of the stuff from some Chinese who live there. What's the worst that can happen if you are found to have nicked all this stuff? And is CS gas illegal? What about a screwdriver if you can't prove it's not an offensive weapon?
Couple of other crimes I'm interested in what the worst case scenario is. You might know that East London is famous (or at least round here it is) for having "green" houses, which are literally filled with cannabis. Some mates stole 4kg of the stuff from some Chinese who live there. What's the worst that can happen if you are found to have nicked all this stuff? And is CS gas illegal? What about a screwdriver if you can't prove it's not an offensive weapon?
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Light wrote:
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> [edit] Bah; EB beat me to this...
Actually I beat you both with talk of 'going equipped'.
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> [edit] Bah; EB beat me to this...
Actually I beat you both with talk of 'going equipped'.
It was explained to us that it was a way of putting "bad people" away before they've actually had to commit the crime therefore negating the need for a victim, which would clearly be a good thing.
Meh, it can be handy legislation, but I never nicked anyone for it alone. It was usually after a crime was committed so you'd be nicking them for both burglary and going equipped.
It could be argued that it was written to back-up the stop-search powers.
Meh, it can be handy legislation, but I never nicked anyone for it alone. It was usually after a crime was committed so you'd be nicking them for both burglary and going equipped.
It could be argued that it was written to back-up the stop-search powers.
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Anyone carrying a single screwdriver around is not going to
> use it for it's intended use. Couldn't tell you anout the legalities
> of it though. :D
You'd almost certainly find yourself charged with "Going Equipped to Commit Burglary".
A wonderful and entirely vague charge that was originally intended to shaft anyone caught with a set of lockpicks, and over time has been used to give a shiny new criminal record to anyone that particular policeman doesn't like the look of.
In fairness, it's also put some people in prison who should have been there but whom there was nothing else to put 'em there for.
[edit] Bah; EB beat me to this...
> Anyone carrying a single screwdriver around is not going to
> use it for it's intended use. Couldn't tell you anout the legalities
> of it though. :D
You'd almost certainly find yourself charged with "Going Equipped to Commit Burglary".
A wonderful and entirely vague charge that was originally intended to shaft anyone caught with a set of lockpicks, and over time has been used to give a shiny new criminal record to anyone that particular policeman doesn't like the look of.
In fairness, it's also put some people in prison who should have been there but whom there was nothing else to put 'em there for.
[edit] Bah; EB beat me to this...
I should have said plastic bag really. I was implying that it had just been bought, but, you know.
English_Bloke wrote:
> Are you dressed
> in workman’s clothes at lunch-time carrying it in a bag back to the
> house you're doing up?
I still stand by that a person carring a single screwdriver around is going to be up to no good with it. ;D
> Are you dressed
> in workman’s clothes at lunch-time carrying it in a bag back to the
> house you're doing up?
I still stand by that a person carring a single screwdriver around is going to be up to no good with it. ;D
Wow, a use for EB, now there's a thing.
But, yeah ... if you're out one Friday night getting drunk and have a screwdriver on you, it's pretty obvious you're not going to be putting up any shelves with it.
But, yeah ... if you're out one Friday night getting drunk and have a screwdriver on you, it's pretty obvious you're not going to be putting up any shelves with it.
Pandaemonium wrote:
> RoJ wrote:
> Can't answer your screwdriver
>
> Anyone carrying a single screwdriver around is not going to
> use it for it's intended use. Couldn't tell you anout the legalities
> of it though. :D
I can. w00t, I'm handy!
Anyway, it would depend on where and why you had it. Are you dressed in workman’s clothes at lunch-time carrying it in a bag back to the house you're doing up? Or are you skulking around the backs of people's houses at 1am with a bag labelled "swag"?
It all depends why you have it. You could be committing different offences otherwise. If you've got it in case you're attacked, then you're carrying an offensive weapon, which is anything "made, adapted or intended" to be used as such.
You could also be going equipped, which is where you're carrying "any article to be used in any burglary theft or cheat".
Edit:
You are also going equipped if you're carrying it to commit criminal damage. They added that just before I left.
There you go.
> RoJ wrote:
> Can't answer your screwdriver
>
> Anyone carrying a single screwdriver around is not going to
> use it for it's intended use. Couldn't tell you anout the legalities
> of it though. :D
I can. w00t, I'm handy!
Anyway, it would depend on where and why you had it. Are you dressed in workman’s clothes at lunch-time carrying it in a bag back to the house you're doing up? Or are you skulking around the backs of people's houses at 1am with a bag labelled "swag"?
It all depends why you have it. You could be committing different offences otherwise. If you've got it in case you're attacked, then you're carrying an offensive weapon, which is anything "made, adapted or intended" to be used as such.
You could also be going equipped, which is where you're carrying "any article to be used in any burglary theft or cheat".
Edit:
You are also going equipped if you're carrying it to commit criminal damage. They added that just before I left.
There you go.
Forest Fan wrote:
> There aren't any Christians in my year that I know of. Couple of
> hundred Muslims and Hindus and a few whities.
That explains it ! :@
Only messin...
> There aren't any Christians in my year that I know of. Couple of
> hundred Muslims and Hindus and a few whities.
That explains it ! :@
Only messin...
Are you sure you didn't do all this? if you did, i'm afraid you shouldn't be walking the streets m8 !
Having a screwdriver on you at night would probably be seen as 'going equipped', having a screwdriver in a football crowd would be 'offensive weapon' time.
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