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Mon 10/10/05 at 00:29
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What's the integration of cos2x?
Mon 10/10/05 at 18:14
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Hedfix wrote:
> J-42 wrote:
>
> What are you basing that on?
>
> Well.. banks, as I've already said.

It seemed like a general statement. "Banks" Which banks?

>
> >Sure, if you work in a certain industry
> that may be true, but in most specialised jobs being qualified is a
> priority in the eyes of an employer.
>
> Yes and having a degree isn't always the best way. Apprentiships
> (sp?) and training at technical colleges etc can wield better results
> and actually get people the skills they need for work.

WHo's to say a university won't offer the same if not better results than a "technical college" why does the word "university" mean you can't gain similar skills to those of a technical college or apprenticship?

>
>
> I didn't say that. I didn't say they were linked at all. I gave two
> examples of things that may come from having a degree or
> qualification in maths or any subject.
>
> So you could have suggested 'getting beaten up' and 'a huge over
> draft' aswell then? :D
>
>
> I haven't heard of this. Please explain.
>
> Well I tried to give an example but you seem to have been unable to
> completely follow it.

You didn't mention "over qualified at all". You just said that banks want people fresh from their GCSEs.

>
>
> and funnily enough
> the people doing the hiring can feel threatened if you're more
> qualified to do their job than they are.
>
> The only way I thijnk of that situation is if an owner of a business
> is looking for a partner, in which case they would want the best for
> their business. In any other case, an employer will emply someone
> lower down than them.
>
> 'Lower down than them' - exactly. So what happens if your
> degree/skills over-shadow people higher than you who are trying to
> just fill a position below them AND keep their job?

They're apllying for the wrong job. If the qualified person is apllyig for a different job altogether, why be threatened? Also, as you said before, experience is important too.

In some
> circumstances you won't get the job

I don't see the logic in not hiring someone because they're fully qualified. The person who is employing the apllicant has a job to emply the best person, so i'm sure they would fulfill this.
Mon 10/10/05 at 18:00
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J-42 wrote:
>
> What are you basing that on?

Well.. banks, as I've already said.

>Sure, if you work in a certain industry
> that may be true, but in most specialised jobs being qualified is a
> priority in the eyes of an employer.

Yes and having a degree isn't always the best way. Apprentiships (sp?) and training at technical colleges etc can wield better results and actually get people the skills they need for work.


> I didn't say that. I didn't say they were linked at all. I gave two
> examples of things that may come from having a degree or
> qualification in maths or any subject.

So you could have suggested 'getting beaten up' and 'a huge over draft' aswell then? :D


> I haven't heard of this. Please explain.

Well I tried to give an example but you seem to have been unable to completely follow it.

>
> and funnily enough
> the people doing the hiring can feel threatened if you're more
> qualified to do their job than they are.
>
> The only way I thijnk of that situation is if an owner of a business
> is looking for a partner, in which case they would want the best for
> their business. In any other case, an employer will emply someone
> lower down than them.

'Lower down than them' - exactly. So what happens if your degree/skills over-shadow people higher than you who are trying to just fill a position below them AND keep their job? In some circumstances you won't get the job.
Mon 10/10/05 at 17:47
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Hedfix wrote:
> Actually certain places (like banks) want people straight from
> finishing their GCSE's and since a pretty high proportion of people
> graduate now having a degree is counting for less and less.
>
> Employers want people with experience that's applicable to situations
> and work in the real world.

What are you basing that on? Sure, if you work in a certain industry that may be true, but in most specialised jobs being qualified is a priority in the eyes of an employer.

>
> And since when has a 'better' career and 'more money' been 100%
> linked?

I didn't say that. I didn't say they were linked at all. I gave two examples of things that may come from having a degree or qualification in maths or any subject.

>
> Also there is such a thing as being over-qualified

I haven't heard of this. Please explain.

and funnily enough
> the people doing the hiring can feel threatened if you're more
> qualified to do their job than they are.

The only way I thijnk of that situation is if an owner of a business is looking for a partner, in which case they would want the best for their business. In any other case, an employer will emply someone lower down than them.
Mon 10/10/05 at 17:19
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You're not disputing any.
Mon 10/10/05 at 17:18
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Like GCSEs?

(I'm not disputing the other points :P)
Mon 10/10/05 at 17:17
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Actually certain places (like banks) want people straight from finishing their GCSE's and since a pretty high proportion of people graduate now having a degree is counting for less and less.

Employers want people with experience that's applicable to situations and work in the real world.

And since when has a 'better' career and 'more money' been 100% linked?

Also there is such a thing as being over-qualified and funnily enough the people doing the hiring can feel threatened if you're more qualified to do their job than they are.
Mon 10/10/05 at 17:17
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It's not just A-Level, it's Higher as well.
Mon 10/10/05 at 17:01
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gamesfreak wrote:
> I can't remember learning "integration" in GCSE maths.
>
> Mind you, I was in the class below the "highest" group.

That's because it's A-Level Maths.

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(In reply to Hedfix's statemant about it being pointless)

It's not necessarily about it being useful in everyday life, if you learn about integration and pass your A-level Maths, you have a bigger chance of getting into a decent university. This leads to a better career and more money etc. Th

That is why.
Mon 10/10/05 at 16:30
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Integration was in Higher last year, how long ago did you do it m_m?
Mon 10/10/05 at 15:58
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The answer is:

1/2(x + (sin2x/2)) + C

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