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Sat 08/10/05 at 18:19
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England...Today, i witnessed terrible play. Missing Rooney? Maybe, but it's not a one man team. The 'team' effort was abismal. We couldn't string a pass together, let alone a shot. Our one goal came from a penalty!

I don't know what is wrong and certainly cannot pin-point it, but if we hope to qualify for the world cup and get in the finals, we need to improve. And fast.
Sat 08/10/05 at 19:42
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The England team is of no concern to me. This match hasn't had any influence on my opinion except to strengthen it. Crouch is not good enough to play for England or, especially, Liverpool.
Sat 08/10/05 at 19:41
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I think, much like the media, most of you see the England team on paper and realise that we should be better than this. So I take it Crouch is this weeks scapegoat?

I don't think you can blame one player for today's performance. The team lacked any form of urgency, they were too calm, too laid back about things. Much like Sven himself. He's just created a team in his own image.
Sat 08/10/05 at 19:38
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Crouch is awful.

JFH = right
Foreman = wrong. Shame on you, you know what a good striker is, you have the best one there is.
Sat 08/10/05 at 19:36
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Foreman wrote:
> JFH wrote:
> Foreman wrote:
> So just because of that header he played crap?
>
> No,
>
> So now he hasn't had a bad game?

WTF?

Foreman: So just because of that header he played crap?

You seem to be implying that I'm saying he played badly just because of one mistake. I then say 'No' and make it quite clear that there were other mistakes which added up to make it a bad game. You then come out with some crap to make it look like I'm contradicting myself? That's just stupid.
Sat 08/10/05 at 19:35
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The performance was below par but better than Northern Ireland but it really had to be because it couldn't get any worse! Having 3 captains didn't help!

Beckham didn't deserve to get sent off and after he did England looked really nervous. Poland on Wednesday is looking really dodgy but hopefully the result in the Holland game will go our way and we won't have to get a result to qualify.
Sat 08/10/05 at 19:31
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JFH wrote:
> Foreman wrote:
> So just because of that header he played crap?
>
> No,

So now he hasn't had a bad game?

> but you said, and I quote, 'You tell me 1 thing he did wrong?'
> Therefore, I only gave one thing that he did wrong. You want another?
> Alright then, why wasn't he there to pick up on the rebound off Owen's
> shot from the right hand side? Beckham got closer to the ball than
> Crouch.

*Put's hand on head*

How the hell is that a mistake?

So Owen shoots, where do you want Crouch to be? Following up right, and he was as you can clearly see in the replay and so was Beckham. The defender was also doing his job and was also quick to react and get a foot to it to clear form danger.

Now you tell me if I shoot, where is the ball going to go if the keeper saves it? you can't, he could palm it away in any direction.

You see that in every game of football with opportunities like Crouch had and I guarentee less than 50% of those chance go in.
Sat 08/10/05 at 19:30
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JFH wrote:
> Foreman wrote:
> Would Defoe or Owen have scored it or got the height to reach that?
>
> You can't have the same two sort of strikers up front.
>
> But Crouch is there for the sole reason that he's tall and should be
> able to make those headers. If Crouch can't get those goals then tell
> me why he's in the team at all?

Whilst I'm no fan of Crouch, I feel I have to defend him on that one, it's almost impossible from that sort of sitauation to get any power into a header if the cross is floated in...
Sat 08/10/05 at 19:27
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No-one was bad today, except for Crouch. He was so hit and miss it was laughable. I think everyone but Sven acknowledged Bent or Defoe should be playing.

As for his height, it's not like Rooney is a magician in the air.

He was shown up today, was Crouch. Luke Young and Joey Cole had great matches, and everyone else was solid.
Sat 08/10/05 at 19:22
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Joe "Coal" was good today. If he was going to take him off, it should have been for Shauny Wright....
Sat 08/10/05 at 19:21
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Foreman wrote:
> So just because of that header he played crap?

No, but you said, and I quote, 'You tell me 1 thing he did wrong?' Therefore, I only gave one thing that he did wrong. You want another? Alright then, why wasn't he there to pick up on the rebound off Owen's shot from the right hand side? Beckham got closer to the ball than Crouch.

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