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"McFly"

I went to see them on Saturday night in the MEN and they were absolutely amazing. I was expecting an average pop show at best, but what I got was a fully fledged rock concert, with flames. Thats right, flames. They had loads of cool pyrotechnics and lighting displays and, for about half of the songs, a full ochestra backing.

My friends and I also managed to start a Mexican wave going before they came on. 10 of us sat in a line coninually waving until the people in front gradually caught on. Aided by a women about 6 rows in front, who had a whistle, (possibly a PE teacher) we got the attention of about a further 10 rows and our whole block started Mexican waving. It took about 5 attempts or so until the other blocks caught on, but when they did it travelled around the arena 10 times or so.

Anyway, back to McFly. They were great!! It was such a fun night of shouting and singing along, my throat still hasnt recovered from two days ago. They filmed footage for a live DVD that they are doing and I'm genuinely looking forward to it so I can watch the gig again.

'Pop' is also a two pronged term.

Pronged.

Well all I can really do is repeat what ive already said. I thought they were a great live band. I didnt expect them to be that good. They are obviously (no pun intended) aimed at a younger audience, but why cant older people appreciate their music too? And so what if they are manufactured and do covers of classic songs, most "proper rock band" are manufactured and often ruin good originals. So why cant McFly be classed as rock? Take Velvet Revolver for example. I also saw them live in the MEN, it was a fantastic show, but was soooo rehearsed and 'manufactured'. Slash did the smoking while soloing thing, played behind his head and put his top hat on for the encore. If you went to see them elsewhere the show would be near identical because its a manufactured piece of entertainment. Their managment probably decides on setlists and coreography and what they should wear, and as for song writing, Izzy Stradlin helped write some songs for them when they were starting out so you could even say that they dont write their own stuff. They did pleanty of GnR covers which sounded wrong without Axl Rose singing, but it was still "Rock and Roll". Elvis started Rock and Roll and he was more of a modern pop sound and was manufactured loads with loads of comercialisation, so you cant say that McFly arent Rock just because they arent your taste.

They're pop. A lot of 'rock' is pop.

Genres, before they get utterly picky and meaningless, are useful to an extent;

"Pop" - McFly, Girls Aloud, etc etc (as in, the genre of pop)
"Pop rock" - Coldplay, U2 etc etc - hell, the Pumpkins have pop rock songs - Zwan was a pop rock band, it's not a bad thing.
"Rock" - Rock is different to Rock and Roll (Elvis etc). Anything from sh*te nu-metal like linkin Park to Rival Schools could be classed as rock, or a further genre such as nu-metal/grunge respectively. You could say U2 etc are rock, and Coldplay are "indie" (although blatently not, due to their success) etc etc

then you get the more detailed genres. McFly don't come anywhere near anything but pop, but whatever floats your boat.

Geffdof wrote:
> Well all I can really do is repeat what ive already said. I thought
> they were a great live band. I didnt expect them to be that good.
> They are obviously (no pun intended) aimed at a younger audience, but
> why cant older people appreciate their music too? And so what if they
> are manufactured and do covers of classic songs, most "proper
> rock band" are manufactured and often ruin good originals. So
> why cant McFly be classed as rock?

I don't get this. "'X' does this, so does 'Y', so obviously 'Y' is the same".

Both humans and insects walk. It does not make us the same. Yeah?
And no way are most 'rock bands' manufactured. 99% of them get together by them selves, most likely go through years of being unsigned, then getting a record deal.


> Take Velvet Revolver for example.
> I also saw them live in the MEN, it was a fantastic show, but was
> soooo rehearsed and 'manufactured'. Slash did the smoking while
> soloing thing, played behind his head and put his top hat on for the
> encore. If you went to see them elsewhere the show would be near
> identical because its a manufactured piece of entertainment.

Rehearsed is not the same as manufactured. Both a west end musical and an infant school's play will follow a script. So they're the same. Right?



> Their managment probably decides on setlists and coreography and what they
> should wear, and as for song writing, Izzy Stradlin helped write some
> songs for them when they were starting out so you could even say that
> they dont write their own stuff. They did pleanty of GnR covers which
> sounded wrong without Axl Rose singing, but it was still "Rock
> and Roll".

That was just all irrelevant and made no sense.

> Elvis started Rock and Roll and he was more of a
> modern pop sound and was manufactured loads with loads of
> comercialisation, so you cant say that McFly arent Rock just because
> they arent your taste.

Yes you can. Because they're 100% pop.

Your analogies are a bit irrational and dont make a very good point. The style of music that McFly play is rock. Its plain and simple. It doesnt sound anything like Girls Aloud or whoever else you want to compare them to in the pop world. They use similar chord progressions and riffs to other rock bands. The only differnece is that they are more manufactured than your average band but that really doesnt matter because to determine a genere all you have to do is listen to the songs and group it with similar sounding matterial. Therefore McFly are a rock band (manufatured, but still rock).

Can't remember hearing McFly at a rock club, sorry.

Cheese night, they might of come on once then though.

Ive heard McFly in rock clubs, not often tho, and it was probably more of a cheese thing as you say. The reason you dont hear them is because people who go to those clubs dont like them and dont class them as rock, but that doesnt mean they arent.

Balls. McFly are pop, and nothing else.

Rock can be pop I guess...?

Yes it can - pop rock. "Pop" is also a genre in itself, and McFly easily fall into it.

Zwan were pop rock. Look at the difference.