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andy johnson must stay at palace!! the best striker in the premiership bar henry last season and we deserve to keep him.
Sven should still consider him for the squad even in the championship.
Sven should still consider him for the squad even in the championship.
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Ashman wrote:
> Lil Bro wrote:
> He scored what, 10, 12 goals in open play? That's really not
> anything
> special...Get over him,
>
> And Defoe scored, what, 13 goals in open play? That's really not
> anything special...get over him - not to mention the fact that Defoe
> would have almost certainly had better service.
Thank you! Some sense!
I admit that we did rely a bit heavily on him, but that was due to a lack of decent strikers.
Freedman - cant last 90 mins
Ventola - injured
Shipperley - old and overweight
Torghelle - not very good
and if you have got strengths, play to them!
> Lil Bro wrote:
> He scored what, 10, 12 goals in open play? That's really not
> anything
> special...Get over him,
>
> And Defoe scored, what, 13 goals in open play? That's really not
> anything special...get over him - not to mention the fact that Defoe
> would have almost certainly had better service.
Thank you! Some sense!
I admit that we did rely a bit heavily on him, but that was due to a lack of decent strikers.
Freedman - cant last 90 mins
Ventola - injured
Shipperley - old and overweight
Torghelle - not very good
and if you have got strengths, play to them!
Look at our stats. I believe Keane got a total of 17 goals last season.
I don't see any other CP player coming ANYWHEEREEEE near that.
I'm sure Kanoute got a few as well and Mido got 3.
Listen to JFH
I don't see any other CP player coming ANYWHEEREEEE near that.
I'm sure Kanoute got a few as well and Mido got 3.
Listen to JFH
Ashman wrote:
> And Defoe scored, what, 13 goals in open play? That's really not
> anything special...get over him - not to mention the fact that Defoe
> would have almost certainly had better service.
But the Crystal Palace players more than likely have a team talk that goes something like this:
Dowie: Get the ball and pass it to Johnson immediately. Failing that, win a penalty and then let Johnson take it. Fail that and spend the rest of the season on the bench.
The Spurs players have more choice when they pass forward so the goals do get shared around more equally. Defoe is clearly FAR better than Johnson.
> And Defoe scored, what, 13 goals in open play? That's really not
> anything special...get over him - not to mention the fact that Defoe
> would have almost certainly had better service.
But the Crystal Palace players more than likely have a team talk that goes something like this:
Dowie: Get the ball and pass it to Johnson immediately. Failing that, win a penalty and then let Johnson take it. Fail that and spend the rest of the season on the bench.
The Spurs players have more choice when they pass forward so the goals do get shared around more equally. Defoe is clearly FAR better than Johnson.
Lil Bro wrote:
> He scored what, 10, 12 goals in open play? That's really not anything
> special...Get over him,
And Defoe scored, what, 13 goals in open play? That's really not anything special...get over him - not to mention the fact that Defoe would have almost certainly had better service.
> He scored what, 10, 12 goals in open play? That's really not anything
> special...Get over him,
And Defoe scored, what, 13 goals in open play? That's really not anything special...get over him - not to mention the fact that Defoe would have almost certainly had better service.
So ok he scored 10 penalties, big deal!
The fact of the matter is he has all the qualities a top striker needs:
pace, agility, control, off the ball movement, finishing, passing etc.
There should be no debate over whether he is good or not, cos he simply is. He scored 32 goals in the 03/04 season and 21 in the 04/05, a difference of only 11 between the championship and the premiership, two leagues with a vast difference that people harp on about
On that evidence, and the evidence to follow during the current season, he will be in svens squad come next summer. Check Sky Sports for conformation.
[/B] [/U] FACT!
The fact of the matter is he has all the qualities a top striker needs:
pace, agility, control, off the ball movement, finishing, passing etc.
There should be no debate over whether he is good or not, cos he simply is. He scored 32 goals in the 03/04 season and 21 in the 04/05, a difference of only 11 between the championship and the premiership, two leagues with a vast difference that people harp on about
On that evidence, and the evidence to follow during the current season, he will be in svens squad come next summer. Check Sky Sports for conformation.
[/B] [/U] FACT!
Dringo, I'm by no means saying that the Championship is an "easy" league, but you've got to consider the amount of competition for that one World Cup spot and trying to prove yourself in a lower division is a significant disadvantage.
Fair enough, Sven says "if he's good enough, he'll be picked", but I feel that unless he almost single-handedly inspires promotion for Crystal Palace and scores an insane amount of goals, he won't get much of a look-in. After all, just three players in the history of English international football have been called up to the World Cup squad after spending a season outside of a first division.
Fair enough, Sven says "if he's good enough, he'll be picked", but I feel that unless he almost single-handedly inspires promotion for Crystal Palace and scores an insane amount of goals, he won't get much of a look-in. After all, just three players in the history of English international football have been called up to the World Cup squad after spending a season outside of a first division.
Hush Defoe lover and get back to your corner
I'm fed up of this hailing of Johnson. He was good last season, yeh, GOOD, that's it. He was second top scorer, but HALF of his goals were penalties. You'd expect every clubs top scorer to score 9 out of 10 penalties, so congratulatiobns, Johnson can put it away from 12 yards.
He scored what, 10, 12 goals in open play? That's really not anything special...Get over him, he's in the Championship where he belongs imo.
He scored what, 10, 12 goals in open play? That's really not anything special...Get over him, he's in the Championship where he belongs imo.
Dringo wrote:
> Andy Johnson is not better than Owen or Rooney so there ends that.
Owen doesn't play in the Premiership, hove.
> As regards to the Championship not being a big enough test... you're
> joking right?
He's proven himself as a top rate goalscorer in both the Championship and the Premiership. He's more than capable of playing with a top half Premiership club.
> Granted the players aren't as skilled by the division is very long
> and tough.
...
> Leeds United have 4 England U21 internationals in their team, an
> australian international, Angolian, Icelandic, Irish and American
> international.
OMG WORLD CLASS M8
> What's wrong with a English international being in the championship?
...nothing...but to be picked for the England squad you've got far more chance of proving your worth if you're playing at the highest level. Playing in the Premiership and the Championship is very different - and you might argue that to compete at International level its better to be playing around other players of such standard. Lets face it, when's the last time Angolia or Iceland did anything of note?
> Andy Johnson is not better than Owen or Rooney so there ends that.
Owen doesn't play in the Premiership, hove.
> As regards to the Championship not being a big enough test... you're
> joking right?
He's proven himself as a top rate goalscorer in both the Championship and the Premiership. He's more than capable of playing with a top half Premiership club.
> Granted the players aren't as skilled by the division is very long
> and tough.
...
> Leeds United have 4 England U21 internationals in their team, an
> australian international, Angolian, Icelandic, Irish and American
> international.
OMG WORLD CLASS M8
> What's wrong with a English international being in the championship?
...nothing...but to be picked for the England squad you've got far more chance of proving your worth if you're playing at the highest level. Playing in the Premiership and the Championship is very different - and you might argue that to compete at International level its better to be playing around other players of such standard. Lets face it, when's the last time Angolia or Iceland did anything of note?
I hear the Angolian international wants a move. Apparently his international coach only watches the proper divisions.
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