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andy johnson must stay at palace!! the best striker in the premiership bar henry last season and we deserve to keep him.
Sven should still consider him for the squad even in the championship.
Sven should still consider him for the squad even in the championship.
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Time_Warp wrote:
> AJ rarely scores a spectacular goal, he's more of a poacher. He's a very
> good poacher, I just prefer someone like Ashton's style.
Yeah, but out of all the English strikers I would have liked to see him claim that fourth spot in the 23-man squad.
He's the absolutely ideal substitute striker - perfect physical attributes in his pace, acceleration, agility and strength, which is obviously exactly what you want against a tired defence. Whatsmore, his record on penalties proves he can deliver under pressure and can put the ball exactly where he wants it.
However, what I think could be the most convenient aspect of his game in terms of playing for England is that he's so similar to the strikers we've already got. I'd rather see him in the squad than Peter Crouch given that we'd have to completely change tactics when Crouch comes on, and as international squads have little time as it is to assimilate a level of unity and way of playing between them, it doesn't seem such a good idea for England to also develop a new system for when target-man Crouch plays.
I would have also liked to see Ashton develop over the next year but it seems he's intent on staying at Norwich. There's no reason why he won't still be improving, but alongside the already-discussed disadvantages of trying to claim a World Cup place from a lower division, Sven seems to have little idea he exists and I would have thought if he wants to truly make an impact then its even more important for him to get back into the Premiership than it is for Johnson.
Vassell may be a bit of a wild-card this season after coming out of injury, and I've no idea what state Alan Smith will be in next summer if he continues to be played rarely and in midfield. Heskey I suppose will have to have an excellent season if he is to get the country back on his side.
> AJ rarely scores a spectacular goal, he's more of a poacher. He's a very
> good poacher, I just prefer someone like Ashton's style.
Yeah, but out of all the English strikers I would have liked to see him claim that fourth spot in the 23-man squad.
He's the absolutely ideal substitute striker - perfect physical attributes in his pace, acceleration, agility and strength, which is obviously exactly what you want against a tired defence. Whatsmore, his record on penalties proves he can deliver under pressure and can put the ball exactly where he wants it.
However, what I think could be the most convenient aspect of his game in terms of playing for England is that he's so similar to the strikers we've already got. I'd rather see him in the squad than Peter Crouch given that we'd have to completely change tactics when Crouch comes on, and as international squads have little time as it is to assimilate a level of unity and way of playing between them, it doesn't seem such a good idea for England to also develop a new system for when target-man Crouch plays.
I would have also liked to see Ashton develop over the next year but it seems he's intent on staying at Norwich. There's no reason why he won't still be improving, but alongside the already-discussed disadvantages of trying to claim a World Cup place from a lower division, Sven seems to have little idea he exists and I would have thought if he wants to truly make an impact then its even more important for him to get back into the Premiership than it is for Johnson.
Vassell may be a bit of a wild-card this season after coming out of injury, and I've no idea what state Alan Smith will be in next summer if he continues to be played rarely and in midfield. Heskey I suppose will have to have an excellent season if he is to get the country back on his side.
The only way Andy Johnson is going to the World Cup is if Stevie Gerrard needs someone to carry the Premiership trophy for him.
I expect Lampard will lend it to him at some point...
I expect Lampard will lend it to him at some point...
Lil Bro wrote:
> I'm fed up of this hailing of Johnson. He was good last season, yeh,
> GOOD, that's it. He was second top scorer, but HALF of his goals were
> penalties. You'd expect every clubs top scorer to score 9 out of 10
> penalties, so congratulatiobns, Johnson can put it away from 12
> yards.
If you'd watched the games you'd see that AJ wins most of his penalties because players cant handle his pace (and diving ;) ) and runs at defenders so much that he could get 3/4 more penalties in a game if the ref was leaning that way. He scored over 20 in 03/04, over 20 in 04/05 and will probably get another 20 at least in 05/06.
He's a great player, and works so hard to win the ball and must have the biggest work rate in our team. I do however think Ashton and Defoe are probably better players, because they score big goals, AJ rarely scores a spectacular goal, he's more of a poacher. He's a very good poacher, I just prefer someone like Ashton's style.
Also JFH said something about our tactics being to pass to AJ everytime. Our midfield isnt creative enough to have tactics, its just win the ball then get rid of it and hope. :(
> I'm fed up of this hailing of Johnson. He was good last season, yeh,
> GOOD, that's it. He was second top scorer, but HALF of his goals were
> penalties. You'd expect every clubs top scorer to score 9 out of 10
> penalties, so congratulatiobns, Johnson can put it away from 12
> yards.
If you'd watched the games you'd see that AJ wins most of his penalties because players cant handle his pace (and diving ;) ) and runs at defenders so much that he could get 3/4 more penalties in a game if the ref was leaning that way. He scored over 20 in 03/04, over 20 in 04/05 and will probably get another 20 at least in 05/06.
He's a great player, and works so hard to win the ball and must have the biggest work rate in our team. I do however think Ashton and Defoe are probably better players, because they score big goals, AJ rarely scores a spectacular goal, he's more of a poacher. He's a very good poacher, I just prefer someone like Ashton's style.
Also JFH said something about our tactics being to pass to AJ everytime. Our midfield isnt creative enough to have tactics, its just win the ball then get rid of it and hope. :(
last time i checked you had to be half - decent to get into the premiership though.
mind you, i must admit some of our performances matched your description!!
mind you, i must admit some of our performances matched your description!!
Yes, sorry, I put "crap" when I meant "pile of steaming crap."
Blank wrote:
> The only reason he got so many goals is because he was with a crap
> club. I doubt he'd get so many if he were playing for one of the top
> clubs. Life's strange like that.
sorry, a what club? i think i must have misread you..
> The only reason he got so many goals is because he was with a crap
> club. I doubt he'd get so many if he were playing for one of the top
> clubs. Life's strange like that.
sorry, a what club? i think i must have misread you..
The only reason he got so many goals is because he was with a crap club. I doubt he'd get so many if he were playing for one of the top clubs. Life's strange like that.
this is true. but he was there last season and did squat!
GingerD wrote:
> Shipperley - old and overweight
And the fact that he doesn't play for you, obviously.
> Shipperley - old and overweight
And the fact that he doesn't play for you, obviously.
Lil Bro wrote:
> Look at our stats. I believe Keane got a total of 17 goals last
> season.
>
> I don't see any other CP player coming ANYWHEEREEEE near that.
>
> I'm sure Kanoute got a few as well and Mido got 3.
>
> Listen to JFH
...yes...but I was comparing Jermain Defoe to Andy Johnson, and there's really not much in it.
> Look at our stats. I believe Keane got a total of 17 goals last
> season.
>
> I don't see any other CP player coming ANYWHEEREEEE near that.
>
> I'm sure Kanoute got a few as well and Mido got 3.
>
> Listen to JFH
...yes...but I was comparing Jermain Defoe to Andy Johnson, and there's really not much in it.
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