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Sun 24/07/05 at 11:35
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I posted about a night out on Friday, which ended in me leaving at about midnight so I could ride home for free on the metro instead of staying and having to pay for a taxi later on.

After recovering we went to The Wal's brother's for a BBQ (me, Wal, Fos, Wal's bird and Wal's younger brother) Drank lots of Thai beer (it was only 5%, not like the minimum 8% stuff over there but it tasted about the same) and had a laugh.

Wal enjoys inflicting pain on his friends and decided to try and get me to submit to some wrist lock thingy which really hurt. After fighting for about five minutes I gave up, and then his younger brother Sean wanted to see if he could pick me up. Being stupid, I let him and soon I was spinning around. Instead of dropping me on the sofa nice and safely, only my upper torso hit the nice padded cushions, part of my back hit the hard edge and there was a big crack.

Everyone thought they'd snapped my spine but it was just the wheel on the sofa. Wal's brother then tried to pick up the Fos man and ended up falling through a table (basically put his head through it) He's only 16 bless him, and he was totally mortal; kept threatening people during the taxi ride home.

In between fighting off The Wal Brothers and talking to a Thai girl on the phone I started getting texts off little Gemma, asking if I could keep a secret. Seems Katie, the lovely, curvy blonde did something she shouldn't have in an alleyway with a lad from work who was cracking onto her all night. When I say she's lovely, I really mean it, she's so friendly and will talk to anyone, which is a problem in town when every lad and his dad comes up to try and work the magic. I was keeping an eye on her, pulling her away from large groups of lads and wanted to make sure she got home alright in a taxi. Of course that didn't happen when they disappeared to go clubbing and I left early.

I thought she'd be alright as there were still a few lasses out, but I was a little concerned because everyone else out was a lad who wanted to crack onto her.

If it did indeed happen then I feel a little responsible. Aye, I wasn't the one doing her against a wall, but if I'd stayed out I feel I could've continued keeping an eye on her as she got a bit more drunk. She's trusting and naive but I didn't think she'd cheat on her boyfriend. Even if I'd just said goodbye before they went clubbing I could've told her to stick with Gemma all night, or asked Gemma to keep an eye on her.

Now I don't know what to say to her on Monday morning, do I act like I don't know? Do I ask if she's alright? If I know her I'm sure she's feeling mighty guilty herself, I don't want to rub it in but I also want to make sure she's OK. I don't think she'll get any sympathy from Gemma...

Of course it could all be a lie, the guy who said he did it could've just been bragging to his mates, or someone got the wrong end of the stick. Like I said I never thought she'd cheat on her boyfriend, especially since they've been together for over two years.

I need some advice people, I'm her friend and I'm meant to be there for her, not pass judgement.

Oh, and to lighten the mood a bit, Wal and Sean dropped me on the grass in the garden and literally kicked my ass. And I've got bruises and marks on my arms. Still, I won't have the headache Sean will after putting his head through a small table.
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:17
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Aye. Goatboy makes sense of things like no other.

She probably did it, she probably wanted to at the time, as long as she's alright then fair enough.

Cheers, all.
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:15
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MoJoJoJo wrote:
> Gemma's saying it's no big deal and is making a joke of it, when I
> said it wasn't like Katie to do anything like that she said I didn't
> know the REAL Katie.
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There you go then mate, nailed it with my first post - chav-rat getting tanked on colourful fruity drinks and letting some chimp knock her in an alleyway.
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:14
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Well yea, like I say, if Gemma is acting a bit arrogant and snotty like that, it's best to talk to Katie about it.

You never know, if she really didn't want to do it, she might have to go through councilling etc, and if you're her best friend, then you should be the one to help her.
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:14
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Or just not get involved because it's nothing really to do with you.
I presume you're not her legal guardian, so what somebody over the age of 18 gets up to is down to them?
Sorry if that sounds harsh, but sometimes you have to let people deal with the consequences of their actions.

"Oh my god, I might be pregnant"
"Then don't screw some stranger in an alleyway"
"But I was druuuuuuunk!"
"Then don't drink so much"
"...you're supposed to look out for me, you know what I get like"
"You're not an 8yr old crying because you can't find mummy in Boots"

I'd suggest not letting it cross your mind Moj, she did what she did and you did what you wanted to (going home).
She's not your responsibility so don't give it another tought.
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:13
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yes you should
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:12
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Gemma's saying it's no big deal and is making a joke of it, when I said it wasn't like Katie to do anything like that she said I didn't know the REAL Katie.

Well, we'll see tomorrow when I talk to her (I'd text her but she's got no money on her phone to reply)
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:09
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Yea, no problem. You need to find it out though, and if it is true, and she really regrets it, you could help her get through it.

Gemma might get annoyed if she ever did end up finding out about it, but at the end of the day, when something like that happens, you really need to discuss with the person that it happened to, in order to solve anything. :)
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:02
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Goatboy wrote:
> But if you get drunk and end up shagging in an alleyway, not
> even in somebody's house, then you're hardly a lady of refinement and
> sensibility.

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Aye, it's fair enough. Someone said she wasn't that drunk but she's so talkative and giggly when she's sober that I couldn't tell how much she'd had when I was out. She'd been drinking before we went out but seemed alright.
Sun 24/07/05 at 11:54
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Yeah, I agree with Verg on this one.

Great mood lightner at the end...
Sun 24/07/05 at 11:54
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sounds if she was totally drunk a cause for a rape shout, i know, she may of said yes but send the little mucker down for doing her. because she was not at the time "mentally able" to make a choice for herself which means its rape =P

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