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Sun 24/07/05 at 11:35
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I posted about a night out on Friday, which ended in me leaving at about midnight so I could ride home for free on the metro instead of staying and having to pay for a taxi later on.

After recovering we went to The Wal's brother's for a BBQ (me, Wal, Fos, Wal's bird and Wal's younger brother) Drank lots of Thai beer (it was only 5%, not like the minimum 8% stuff over there but it tasted about the same) and had a laugh.

Wal enjoys inflicting pain on his friends and decided to try and get me to submit to some wrist lock thingy which really hurt. After fighting for about five minutes I gave up, and then his younger brother Sean wanted to see if he could pick me up. Being stupid, I let him and soon I was spinning around. Instead of dropping me on the sofa nice and safely, only my upper torso hit the nice padded cushions, part of my back hit the hard edge and there was a big crack.

Everyone thought they'd snapped my spine but it was just the wheel on the sofa. Wal's brother then tried to pick up the Fos man and ended up falling through a table (basically put his head through it) He's only 16 bless him, and he was totally mortal; kept threatening people during the taxi ride home.

In between fighting off The Wal Brothers and talking to a Thai girl on the phone I started getting texts off little Gemma, asking if I could keep a secret. Seems Katie, the lovely, curvy blonde did something she shouldn't have in an alleyway with a lad from work who was cracking onto her all night. When I say she's lovely, I really mean it, she's so friendly and will talk to anyone, which is a problem in town when every lad and his dad comes up to try and work the magic. I was keeping an eye on her, pulling her away from large groups of lads and wanted to make sure she got home alright in a taxi. Of course that didn't happen when they disappeared to go clubbing and I left early.

I thought she'd be alright as there were still a few lasses out, but I was a little concerned because everyone else out was a lad who wanted to crack onto her.

If it did indeed happen then I feel a little responsible. Aye, I wasn't the one doing her against a wall, but if I'd stayed out I feel I could've continued keeping an eye on her as she got a bit more drunk. She's trusting and naive but I didn't think she'd cheat on her boyfriend. Even if I'd just said goodbye before they went clubbing I could've told her to stick with Gemma all night, or asked Gemma to keep an eye on her.

Now I don't know what to say to her on Monday morning, do I act like I don't know? Do I ask if she's alright? If I know her I'm sure she's feeling mighty guilty herself, I don't want to rub it in but I also want to make sure she's OK. I don't think she'll get any sympathy from Gemma...

Of course it could all be a lie, the guy who said he did it could've just been bragging to his mates, or someone got the wrong end of the stick. Like I said I never thought she'd cheat on her boyfriend, especially since they've been together for over two years.

I need some advice people, I'm her friend and I'm meant to be there for her, not pass judgement.

Oh, and to lighten the mood a bit, Wal and Sean dropped me on the grass in the garden and literally kicked my ass. And I've got bruises and marks on my arms. Still, I won't have the headache Sean will after putting his head through a small table.
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:35
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Goatboy wrote:

> You thought "She may have been too drunk to realise and it was
> against her will"
> I thought "Drunk girl humps bloke in alleyway and goes
> home"

Yea, haha, that's fair enough mate.

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Sun 24/07/05 at 12:34
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Ooooh, new Chaos Theory maps available.
Hedfix, you fancy some sneaky later on hardest?
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:34
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SHEEPY wrote:
> You have some classy friends.
>
> Edit: Stop acting like a woman too.
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:33
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I didn't mean to sound like I was having a pop at you Vergil, sorry if it came out like that.
It's just amusing how people's minds work.

You thought "She may have been too drunk to realise and it was against her will"
I thought "Drunk girl humps bloke in alleyway and goes home"
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:31
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Lol, well, I didn't mean it like that...if she didn't want it, then technically it could be counted as rape, as somebody pointed out earlier, and in those cases you need councilling, unless you have such strong will, you can forget about it within seconds.

Fair enough if she wanted it, then there is nothing to worry about, and it's her own foolish doing.

Anyway, I hope something about what I said earlier helped, but I wasn't trying to have a go at you or anything goatboy. :)

Just trying to help, but then what do I know? I base things on what I have seen and heard around me, and I'm only 18 myself, so you don't need to take any notice of what I say. I don't know the person myself, so that's all I can go on...what I have seen and heard around me. :)
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:26
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Exactly.
A woman frets because her mate humped somebody in an alleyway (that phrase just reeks of lynx, apple schnapps and "don't spill me chips").
A bloke shrugs and goes back to his xbox.

I'm amused as hell at the comments about councilling though.
"So, what happened?"
"I got drunk and had sex"
"Good lord! I've never heard of such a thing, are you alright?"
"No, I lost my lippy somewhere and that was dead expensive"
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:26
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Goatboy wrote:
> Councilling? For what? Drunken shagging?

Nope, I'm just saying that if she didn't want it, then techinically it could get her down, and if it got bad, she'd have to go to councilling, in the extreme case.

Anyway, if Mojojojo is her only best friend, and says this isn't normal for her, then I was just trying to give him a bit of advice really, to help sort it out. However, if it's like you say, and she is one of those people that go out, just to get drunk and have sex, then that's down to her really, and nobody else should have to do anything about it, which is fair enough. :)
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:19
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Ha ha, cheers SHEEPY.

Of course it'd be a different story if *I'd* been the one nailing her in an alley way. Then I'd proclaim myself to be Lord Of All I Survey and would have a smug look on my face for a week (then I'd know what it'd be like to be Stryke for a while)
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:18
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You have some classy friends.

Edit: Stop acting like a woman too.
Sun 24/07/05 at 12:17
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Vergil wrote:
> You never know, if she really didn't want to do it, she might have to
> go through councilling etc, and if you're her best friend, then you
> should be the one to help her.
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Oh for chrissakes, she hasn't murdered an infant.
She got drunk and humped somebody in a darkened alleyway, probably leaning over an vomiting technicolour booze over her shoes before wobbling off into a mini-cab and going home.
It happens. This isn't an isolated incident on a Saturday night.
Up and down this fair country of ours, scores of drunken teen girls and boys are rubbing up each other.
There are more important things to fret about.
Councilling? For what? Drunken shagging?

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