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Thu 28/10/04 at 18:42
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Living in the fantasy failure of Nintendo's world it is easy to be misled.

Lack of games has meant both the Gamecube and the X-box has failed to even dent the monster of the Playstation. Pull out fantastic games all you want, there just isn't enough to please all those billions of games players.

Nintendo promise revolution, Microsoft promise variety... Sony promise to damage the profits of both its rivals even further. One of them is almost certainly correct.

There is always a get out clause for Nintendo, being such a massive games developer themselves they CAN always become a simply 2nd or 3rd party developer. Unless Microsoft can increase the amount of games they have on their system, they have no such get out clause.

Both Microsoft and Nintendo are struggling. Yep Nintendo have a lot of money and so do Microsoft. But neither wish to support a massive loss. We've discussed a combined effort of Microsoft and Nintendo which would increase game out put, fan basses and variety of system capabilties.

It won't happen.

Microsoft will continue to pump money into their dead weight and Nintendo will try and invent another "innovative" idea.

When "revolution" was announced we all looked at the Bongo's, at the DS and at the (shudder) Microphone. Nintendo will add some imagintive new way to play games and hope it'll take off. Nintendo said the DS is a clue to the future of Revolution. What two screens? a microphone built in? Touch screen? What exactly Nintendo, unless all are implemented I cannot see this "revolutionising" gaming... just confusing it.

How about GBA 2? Or GameBoy Evolution. A simple gaming device, plenty of buttons, a nice well made screen, 2 analogue sticks for the ultimate gaming on the go. With revolution graphics.

Certainly that will be possible soon. Handheld gaming just looks better and better and you know it. There is no longer any restrictions.

Especially by 2006.

The revolution of gaming could feature a nice new controller, that in fact could also be a GBE. I don't mean a GBE CAN be used. Rather a GBE has the same buttons as a Revolution Controller.

Is it not time Nintendo really revolutionised gaming with a "GOOD" idea.

Connectivity is the damn future of gaming and you know it. What Nintendo "could" do is endless. 2 versions of the game, one for the GBE and one for the Gamecube. Maybe sold together. Play one, save it to the GBE and continue the GBE version on the go.

Or how about play the game on Revolution and download the game from the disc onto the GBE's format. GBE's games are avalible via download through Revolution.

Maybe I'm going too far here. Downloading the game you are playing to play "on the go" seems daft. Why not simply plug a GBE into the tele and play it straight?

Well Revolution will be this DVD/Music/Internet hybrid. The GBE's late 2006 launch will halt the PSP's advance. And Nintendo will be looking at a system to die for.

Imagine, playing a football game on Revolution. Download the save file on the "memory card" which is specific for the game and is used as the source for the GBE. The game is already on the card but the saved data from the Revolution title can be transferred to it. Then take a bus and continue the game you were playing.


This would sell. It is essentially buy one game and play it wherever you want, on two different systems. Multiplayer avalible via one and single player the other. It would work.

But is the technology ready? Can Nintendo really produce a machine that runs revolution graphics, plays revolution sized games that is easily downloadable onto a memory card? And doesn't eat battery life to death? Well if Nintendo can make a handheld that has 2 processors and 2 screens and still have a good battery life then I don't doubt it for a second. There is no need for a laser, I'm not talking CD's... I don't want some MP3 player hybrid...

And IPODS are lasting longer and longer as batteries become better and better.

Christmas 2006 for the Revolution and the Evolution could be the idea time for a real gaming "revolution". Whether it'll take off or not is a different matter entirely.
Thu 28/10/04 at 20:53
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Apple Crumble wrote:
> I think we should re-name this forum the 'Long reply' forum.

Yes
Thu 28/10/04 at 20:53
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I think we should re-name this forum the 'Long reply' forum.
Thu 28/10/04 at 20:53
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Apple Crumble wrote:

> He said I was a hardcore gamer

We're all hardcore funking gamers.

*head explodes*
Thu 28/10/04 at 20:52
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ÂLІÂÎR wrote:
> Dringo wrote:
> Online play is not essential, it doesn't sell.
>
> Hah!
>
> Yes that is why so many Nintendo fanboys from this forum alone got an
> Xbox just for LIVE, this is excluding a shed load of other people who
> did it for the same thing.

I think the fact that 9% of X-box owners use live is a clear sign that Online gaming is not popular with the average joe gamer.
Thu 28/10/04 at 20:52
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Dringo wrote:
> DeadMetal wrote:
> Dringo wrote:
> Connectivity is the damn future of gaming and you know it.
>
> I have to disagree with you there Dringo. One of the Gamecube's
> major
> flaws was the heavily advertised GBA/NGC link up, and in the end,
> hardly any games used the "innovative" system connection.
> In the end, the casual gamer isn't going to splash out on two
> versions of the same game for the benefit of a few extra levels or
> an
> extra feature that doesn't really effect the game (anyone remember
> Wind Waker with the Tingle Tuner?).
>
> Erm my idea of connectivity is nothing like the idea i've described
> here.
>
> I mean downloading the game onto a GBE cart (or potential memory
> card/game that comes with the REvolution version) from revolution and
> playing it on the go.

Technology does have its limits, I doubt the next generation of hand-held consoles will have the ability to even handle the Revolution's games (unless GBE is a massive leap from the GBA and does have this ability).

Thinking logical, maybe not the next generation, but later on will this idea be enforced, but as for Revolution and the GBE, if connectivity is to be used, I think it will be the same as the relationship between the Cube/GBA.
Thu 28/10/04 at 20:51
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Merm wrote:

>
> That's what I mean by 'real gamer'. The suggestion in everything you
> write is that so-called casual gamers aren't proper gamers.
>
> It's annoying.

Casual gamers are different, they don't read up on games as much as the hardcore. They don't play as many games as the hardcore... and most Casual gamers tend to go for the PS2 and the most popular games.

But that doesn't make me better in anyway. Sure I may know more than they do about games but that doesn't mean a thing.

When I played Pro Evo 4 and Donkey Konga the other week with a host of casual gamers I just saw them as what I am... gamers.

There are more casual gamers than hardcore gamers and Nintendo need to attract that fan base. Don't read claims that are not there.
Thu 28/10/04 at 20:50
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Merm, Dringo is not trying to be 'better' than other people, he is simply stating that he feels he is a hardcore gamer.

He said I was a hardcore gamer, so I don't see how he is trying to be 'better' than me.

End.
Thu 28/10/04 at 20:50
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Dringo wrote:
> Online play is not essential, it doesn't sell.

Hah!

Yes that is why so many Nintendo fanboys from this forum alone got an Xbox just for LIVE, this is excluding a shed load of other people who did it for the same thing.

Oh dear.
Thu 28/10/04 at 20:49
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Merm wrote:

> The way you constantly make reference to being a 'hardcore gamer'
> makes you come across as being arrogant, like you're
> "better" than other gamers.

What do you expect, he is in Cambridge. Arrogance wins friends and popularity over there.
Thu 28/10/04 at 20:49
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Apple Crumble wrote:
> Dringo, I bloody salute you mate.
>
> You can be my b*tch if you like.

Thinks about it... changes mind.

You are right Icarus, at the moment.

But the fact is companies change as do their phases.

If Nintendo can make themselves look cooler in time for the new generation of children then maybe they can sell again!

And anyway Pokemon was played to death in all playgrounds around the country.

Till it was banned.

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