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"Champions League Final"

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Wed 25/05/05 at 01:54
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Well, no one else was making a topic, so...

Predictions?
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Sat 28/05/05 at 21:04
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Ant wrote:
> Lipe wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> Lipe wrote:
> I felt Liverpool played for the penalties in extra time.
>
> Well, I'm not surprised you think considering they've openly
> admitted
> it...
>
> Yes...which is why I think Milan were the better side over the 120
> minutes...
>
> Oh cmon, Jamie Carragher was getting cramp in places you shouldn't
> even be getting cramp! It's no wonder we played for penalties, every
> single player was knackered, and having to use two substitutions
> before the 2nd half didn't help (although both subs were awesome,
> heh.)

Having two substituions didn't help? If it wasn't for those substitutions I don't think you would of won. Both men helped to change the game which is why you did so well in the 2nd half. If there was no injuries Rafa probably wouldn't of made those changes so early and you would of lost.

> First half yeah, Milan outclassed us. Second half we were better.
> Extra time Milan had the possession, but apart from Dudek's awesome
> double save they hardly troubled us. I feel we deserve it simply for
> the unbelievable comeback.

Well it is hard to score when you're defending with 10 men ;) Yes, the comeback was immense and you hit them with goals one after the other which didn't give them time to recoperate. But to play for penalties is hardly what champions do imo.
Sat 28/05/05 at 21:02
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Second half you were not better

Apart from about 10 minutes.
Sat 28/05/05 at 21:01
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Lipe wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> Lipe wrote:
> I felt Liverpool played for the penalties in extra time.
>
> Well, I'm not surprised you think considering they've openly
> admitted
> it...
>
> Yes...which is why I think Milan were the better side over the 120
> minutes...

Oh cmon, Jamie Carragher was getting cramp in places you shouldn't even be getting cramp! It's no wonder we played for penalties, every single player was knackered, and having to use two substitutions before the 2nd half didn't help (although both subs were awesome, heh.)

First half yeah, Milan outclassed us. Second half we were better. Extra time Milan had the possession, but apart from Dudek's awesome double save they hardly troubled us. I feel we deserve it simply for the unbelievable comeback.
Sat 28/05/05 at 20:14
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I think the FA are going the right way about this.

If they stick by their rules that the top 4 should get in, then it just makes UEFA look stupid for not letting their champions challenge next year. If the FA stick to their guns, then they could get the rules changed, and five teams entered into the Champions League, or alternatively, have the four who are supposed to get in play in it and make UEFA look stupid.

The FA look good whatever happens
Sat 28/05/05 at 19:37
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Everyone gets to compete in the FA Cup.
Sat 28/05/05 at 19:24
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BUt that's different in a way too, because you CAN'T be demoted if you win teh Premiership.

I don't know how the FA Cups works, but I'll assume it's the Premiership and Championship that compete for it (Or maybe it's all 4 divisions, I don't know, but assume for now it's 2).

If whoever got relegated from the Championship into the Second division (or whatever it's called), won the FA cup, they wouldn't be allowed to defend it the next year, and that's that, because those would be the rules.

The rules of the CHampions League have always beedn that it's the teams that win the League in their country (or come close), but Liverpool didn't.

I mean, what if Liverpool had by some sort of freak occurence been relegated this season, yet they still compete in the Champions League because they won it?

The rules should stay the way they are.
Sat 28/05/05 at 16:38
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munn wrote:
> I don't think Liverpool should be allowed to compete in next years
> Champions League for one reason.
>
> If they won the UEFA Cup and qualified for the Champions League,
> should they have to compete in teh UEFA Cup to defend that trophy?
>
> It has to work both ways.

I don't agree with that. With any sport, you want to play at the pinnacle. Everyone knows the UEFA cup is a step down from the Champions League. It's like saying Sunderland aren't going to playing in the Premiership because they have to defend the Championship.
Sat 28/05/05 at 16:31
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With the exception of around 20 minutes at the beginning of the second half, Milan outplayed Liverpool, but they managed to pull their defence together in the second half onwards, so Milan didn't do as well.
Sat 28/05/05 at 16:30
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Ant wrote:
> Lipe wrote:
> I felt Liverpool played for the penalties in extra time.
>
> Well, I'm not surprised you think considering they've openly admitted
> it...

Yes...which is why I think Milan were the better side over the 120 minutes...
Sat 28/05/05 at 16:27
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I don't think Liverpool should be allowed to compete in next years Champions League for one reason.

If they won the UEFA Cup and qualified for the Champions League, should they have to compete in teh UEFA Cup to defend that trophy?

It has to work both ways.
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