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Nowadays, nobody is making any more decent Rpg's. i am a fan
of rpg's and the only decent ones been released recently are the Baldurs Gate and Icewin dale series. (i do not c**t Diablo 2 as an RPG)Have RPG's becom obsolete?
of rpg's and the only decent ones been released recently are the Baldurs Gate and Icewin dale series. (i do not c**t Diablo 2 as an RPG)Have RPG's becom obsolete?
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First i will reply to the first post in this topic, you say that there is no good RPG's coming out anymore, you say that the best two out at the moment are Baldurs Gate 2 and Icewind Dale, well i say you are mad.
Sugmaster, i have something to ask you have all the great RPG's that have been released eluded your sight and mind, there have been some of the greatest RPGs of a long time released in the past year, take Final Fantasy IX for instance, in my mind the greatest RPG to ever be released, with plenty of twists in the storyline and a lot of changes made compared to all the other games in the series.
What about The legend of Dragoon, another great RPG but not created by squaresoft. OK the map is pretty linear, but the story is one of the best ever, it is good enough to sell along with all the Final Fantasy games.
Sugmaster your probably not very good at RPG so you class them as being rubbish.
To Mattyboy:
Zelda is classed as an RPG because you are taking the role of a person and taking him on an adventure, but it can also be classed as a platform game, but if I had to class it as one particular genre the i would say it was an RPG
Sugmaster, i have something to ask you have all the great RPG's that have been released eluded your sight and mind, there have been some of the greatest RPGs of a long time released in the past year, take Final Fantasy IX for instance, in my mind the greatest RPG to ever be released, with plenty of twists in the storyline and a lot of changes made compared to all the other games in the series.
What about The legend of Dragoon, another great RPG but not created by squaresoft. OK the map is pretty linear, but the story is one of the best ever, it is good enough to sell along with all the Final Fantasy games.
Sugmaster your probably not very good at RPG so you class them as being rubbish.
To Mattyboy:
Zelda is classed as an RPG because you are taking the role of a person and taking him on an adventure, but it can also be classed as a platform game, but if I had to class it as one particular genre the i would say it was an RPG
I like RPG's, unfortunately I cant play them properly, I always end up losing my temper or havent got the patients to play out some 40-50 hour adventures!!
I do own quite a good selection though like Final Fantasy VII,VIII,IX, Vagrant Story, Grandia, Harvest Moon, Skies of Arcadia, Phantasy Star Online, Shenmue. There are some coming out and out already that I want aswell like Paper Mario and Grandia II.
Would you call Zelda games RPG's?? It has always eluded me what type of genre they fit in to!!
I do own quite a good selection though like Final Fantasy VII,VIII,IX, Vagrant Story, Grandia, Harvest Moon, Skies of Arcadia, Phantasy Star Online, Shenmue. There are some coming out and out already that I want aswell like Paper Mario and Grandia II.
Would you call Zelda games RPG's?? It has always eluded me what type of genre they fit in to!!
The Final Fantasy series on the PS1 gives very good gameplay hours. Over 40 hours for FF7 and thats just to complete it, maybe up to about 100+ hours to do every thing. FF8 and FF9 are longer than this. Personnally I like having a long game. The FF series is very good, amazing plot lines, great gameplay e.t.c. I also like game which are arcade type games that can take a couple of hours to complete but are fun to play and are really addictive.
I tend to go on quality not quantity. I also couldn't be bothered playing the same game for 250hours, i would get bored.
There are some good console RPGs though, i played a demo of skies of arcadia and it was decent.
There are some good console RPGs though, i played a demo of skies of arcadia and it was decent.
Well RPGs are generally better on the PC but if you happen to own a Dreamcast or similarly endowed (with RPGs) console you can give them a go. Still consoles aren't really designed for RPGs since RPGs tend to be long games whereas most console games are considerably shorter. Has there ever been a console game that took about 250 hours to complete even if you skipped all the dialogue and sub quests? I doubt it. You might get some decent hack and slash type RPGs though, but personally I haven't played a good console RPG... Or any console RPG for that matter.
I got shenmue its great but my mate just got PSO and he hasn't shut up about it for the past week. The last game he banged on about was...i can't remember so it must be good! :)
There are plenty of RPG's on the consoles.
The DC has Phantasy Star Online and Shenmue.
On the Playstation machines you have the Final Fantasy series.
The N64 has the likes of Zelda and the gameboy has Pokemon and Zelda.
There's loads of gerat RPG's if you know ehere to look!
The DC has Phantasy Star Online and Shenmue.
On the Playstation machines you have the Final Fantasy series.
The N64 has the likes of Zelda and the gameboy has Pokemon and Zelda.
There's loads of gerat RPG's if you know ehere to look!
Firstly we'll deal with the Diablo2 issue. Diablo 2 is a RPG in the sense that it is a game in which you play a role of your character and develop it as the game progresses. However, it is a Hack and Slash RPG which is a different classification to what some people might say are true RPGs which tend to involve more character interaction (chatting) and a more deep and involved storyline.
Right, now as to the main subject "Are RPGs obsolete?" the answer is obviously no. As we all know Baldur's Gate 2 and the like were all great games done by Black Isle (or Interplay if you prefer but same difference) and Black Isle are in the process of making more RPGs. For example the well known Neverwinter Nights is on it's way to out screens from those pre-mentioned good people and promises to be a great RPG especially since it goes back to the old pen and paper ability of making your own quests, not to mention the multiplayer capabilities. Another game from the same people I just recently heard about is Torn which seems to be a new fully 3D RPG which is perhaps intended as a filler until Neverwinter Nights came out. Remember that Planescape: Torment was made in a similar way and was a really superb game in it's own right so don't immediately think that they wont put any effort into Torn. There's also the recently released "Expansion Pack" to Baldur's Gate 2 that is essentially a completely new game since you can get to level 40 and there are enough new spells and monsters to match! I think that's all but then that's all the games from one company.
The main thing is that you must have patience, the majority of the industry avoid taking any risks by making RPGs and they do seem difficult to do as well as Black Isle do them, plus they would have to be confident in their ability to compete with the masters. So what this means is that we RPG fans must wait and replay our old favorites for a few months between every release of another RPG, but with the quality we get it is well worth the wait. It can be fun to replay an RPG as a different character class or even as a different personality (favoring evil or good) to keep you busy between releases. Of course you could always turn your attention to other areas while you wait. Hack and Slash RPGs do tend to have good lastability because of their monster fighting fun without the story being as relevant, meaning that if you know the story it doesn't really matter. First Person Shooters appeal to many people in the simplicity and quick fun that can be had by playing them, especially if you have on-line access and they can also have some good involving single player. I don't know anyone who isn't a fan of Real Time Strategy games in some way because they can appeal to both the quick action players and the time taking tactical players since there are so many to choose from that are usually unique.
So the RPG is not obsolete, it is just slowly repositioning itself in our hearts and though we may sometimes have to wait for the next one we always know that it will be worth it.
Right, now as to the main subject "Are RPGs obsolete?" the answer is obviously no. As we all know Baldur's Gate 2 and the like were all great games done by Black Isle (or Interplay if you prefer but same difference) and Black Isle are in the process of making more RPGs. For example the well known Neverwinter Nights is on it's way to out screens from those pre-mentioned good people and promises to be a great RPG especially since it goes back to the old pen and paper ability of making your own quests, not to mention the multiplayer capabilities. Another game from the same people I just recently heard about is Torn which seems to be a new fully 3D RPG which is perhaps intended as a filler until Neverwinter Nights came out. Remember that Planescape: Torment was made in a similar way and was a really superb game in it's own right so don't immediately think that they wont put any effort into Torn. There's also the recently released "Expansion Pack" to Baldur's Gate 2 that is essentially a completely new game since you can get to level 40 and there are enough new spells and monsters to match! I think that's all but then that's all the games from one company.
The main thing is that you must have patience, the majority of the industry avoid taking any risks by making RPGs and they do seem difficult to do as well as Black Isle do them, plus they would have to be confident in their ability to compete with the masters. So what this means is that we RPG fans must wait and replay our old favorites for a few months between every release of another RPG, but with the quality we get it is well worth the wait. It can be fun to replay an RPG as a different character class or even as a different personality (favoring evil or good) to keep you busy between releases. Of course you could always turn your attention to other areas while you wait. Hack and Slash RPGs do tend to have good lastability because of their monster fighting fun without the story being as relevant, meaning that if you know the story it doesn't really matter. First Person Shooters appeal to many people in the simplicity and quick fun that can be had by playing them, especially if you have on-line access and they can also have some good involving single player. I don't know anyone who isn't a fan of Real Time Strategy games in some way because they can appeal to both the quick action players and the time taking tactical players since there are so many to choose from that are usually unique.
So the RPG is not obsolete, it is just slowly repositioning itself in our hearts and though we may sometimes have to wait for the next one we always know that it will be worth it.
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