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Abortion
Having had the news on all evening and just occassionally listening i was shocked to learn the legal time frame was 24 weeks. Now anyone who knows me will know i'm fully supportive of the right to it but 24 weeks, come on thats just short of 6 months.
I'd always believed it was set around 12, i think 16 is pushing it but 24, thats way beyond humane and absolutely wrong, if you're going to get it done you should at least do the right thing and do it before the baby is developed.
Your opinions please
Having had the news on all evening and just occassionally listening i was shocked to learn the legal time frame was 24 weeks. Now anyone who knows me will know i'm fully supportive of the right to it but 24 weeks, come on thats just short of 6 months.
I'd always believed it was set around 12, i think 16 is pushing it but 24, thats way beyond humane and absolutely wrong, if you're going to get it done you should at least do the right thing and do it before the baby is developed.
Your opinions please
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SHEEPY wrote:
> To be honest I have no strong feelings other than a woman should be
> given a choice.
All i'd add to that is there is a point where the baby should have some sort of rights and i think 24 weeks is too late, otherwise i agree completely.
> To be honest I have no strong feelings other than a woman should be
> given a choice.
All i'd add to that is there is a point where the baby should have some sort of rights and i think 24 weeks is too late, otherwise i agree completely.
To be honest I have no strong feelings other than a woman should be given a choice.
But then the other side of that story, Flock, are the children who are born and are resented by their parents and suffer abuse. The question of abortion is truely an individual one. We can't really generalise and say that all abortions should be banned. Every woman has their own reason for terminating a pregnancy which is what I concentrate on.
Sweet Tooth wrote:
> SHEEPY wrote:
> Sorry to be crude but I'd rather an unwanted child was aborted at
> the
> last minute rather than be raised by a couple of morons that don't
> care for it.
>
> I`m afraid i see it like that too sorry ..
Just from personal experience i know a couple of people who have been brought up in that sort of household and despite their childhood they are wonderful people, the thought of them not existing isn't worth thinking about, they add more to this world than most people i know.
> SHEEPY wrote:
> Sorry to be crude but I'd rather an unwanted child was aborted at
> the
> last minute rather than be raised by a couple of morons that don't
> care for it.
>
> I`m afraid i see it like that too sorry ..
Just from personal experience i know a couple of people who have been brought up in that sort of household and despite their childhood they are wonderful people, the thought of them not existing isn't worth thinking about, they add more to this world than most people i know.
SHEEPY wrote:
> Sorry to be crude but I'd rather an unwanted child was aborted at the
> last minute rather than be raised by a couple of morons that don't
> care for it.
Adoption wouldn't be better?
I know that would have to be the morons choice though.
> Sorry to be crude but I'd rather an unwanted child was aborted at the
> last minute rather than be raised by a couple of morons that don't
> care for it.
Adoption wouldn't be better?
I know that would have to be the morons choice though.
SHEEPY wrote:
> Sorry to be crude but I'd rather an unwanted child was aborted at the
> last minute rather than be raised by a couple of morons that don't
> care for it.
There is always adoption.
> Sorry to be crude but I'd rather an unwanted child was aborted at the
> last minute rather than be raised by a couple of morons that don't
> care for it.
There is always adoption.
SHEEPY wrote:
> Sorry to be crude but I'd rather an unwanted child was aborted at the
> last minute rather than be raised by a couple of morons that don't
> care for it.
I`m afraid i see it like that too sorry ..
> Sorry to be crude but I'd rather an unwanted child was aborted at the
> last minute rather than be raised by a couple of morons that don't
> care for it.
I`m afraid i see it like that too sorry ..
Sorry to be crude but I'd rather an unwanted child was aborted at the last minute rather than be raised by a couple of morons that don't care for it.
FantasyMeister wrote:
> No, mainly because both procedures mentioned are 'humane' ways of
> 'killing'.
Thats certainly a matter if opinion
> I can understand why so many people want this period reduced, but I
> think the majority of reasons centre around the fact that they don't
> like the thought of babies being killed, and perhaps their
> consciences might be eased a little if we were talking about just a
> bunch of cells.
Yep you're correct, you can't have a topic like this without bringing some sort of moral opinion because thats all there is, no right or wrong just pure morality and opinion.
> One other issue that frequently crops up in discussions of this
> nature is who are we to say what a woman should or shouldn't do with
> her own body? Do any of us have the right to force a woman to bear a
> child against her wishes?
Agreed but there has to be a limit, at what point do you say this is unacceptable, should it be legal for a parent to have a post birth abortion, there has to be a limit and a point when the rights of the baby become valid. Do you really think it's right for a woman to abort a perfectly healthy baby at 24 weeks for no reason other than it's not wanted by it's parents, surely that choice could and should have been made a lot earlier?
> No, mainly because both procedures mentioned are 'humane' ways of
> 'killing'.
Thats certainly a matter if opinion
> I can understand why so many people want this period reduced, but I
> think the majority of reasons centre around the fact that they don't
> like the thought of babies being killed, and perhaps their
> consciences might be eased a little if we were talking about just a
> bunch of cells.
Yep you're correct, you can't have a topic like this without bringing some sort of moral opinion because thats all there is, no right or wrong just pure morality and opinion.
> One other issue that frequently crops up in discussions of this
> nature is who are we to say what a woman should or shouldn't do with
> her own body? Do any of us have the right to force a woman to bear a
> child against her wishes?
Agreed but there has to be a limit, at what point do you say this is unacceptable, should it be legal for a parent to have a post birth abortion, there has to be a limit and a point when the rights of the baby become valid. Do you really think it's right for a woman to abort a perfectly healthy baby at 24 weeks for no reason other than it's not wanted by it's parents, surely that choice could and should have been made a lot earlier?
Flock wrote:
Having had the news on all evening and just occassionally listening i
was shocked to learn the legal time frame was 24 weeks.
I was shocked too. A friend of a friend had an abortion last year when se was 3 months pregnant. This was shocking since i'm sure some women start to show at 3 months, and at 6 months most women should have started to feel their baby moving.
Personally I couldn't do it if I was 6 months pregnant unless there was something wrong with the baby, and even then it would be hard. I just hope to god I would never be in this situation. Me and my boyfriend did speak about 'what if', and its more of a case of 'well cross that bridge if it comes to it'
There are loads of for and against arguments for abortion. I know that some women don't find out they are pregnant until they are quite far gone. My friend just found out she was 5 months pregnant. I think that maybe there should be maybe two stages. Maybe 19 weeks for abortion but extend it to 24 weeks if there is something wrong with the baby. But still there would be arguments about what would be classed as 'wrong'. Some women would class a child as having CF as being 'wrong', but in reality many children can lead normal, happy (albeit shortened) lives.
I know of some girls who have had a few abortions, some to the extent of them regarding it as a form of contraception. If you leave it open at 24 weeks then some girls will just believe that, if they was to get pregnant then they will always have the option of abortion to, fall back on, so to speak. Once is a mistake, twice s unlucky but 3 times? I think the girls dumb enough to be in that situation should have the baby, even if they have to give it up for adoption. Afterall if they are mature enough to have sex, then they should be mature enough to deal with the consequenses.
Having had the news on all evening and just occassionally listening i
was shocked to learn the legal time frame was 24 weeks.
I was shocked too. A friend of a friend had an abortion last year when se was 3 months pregnant. This was shocking since i'm sure some women start to show at 3 months, and at 6 months most women should have started to feel their baby moving.
Personally I couldn't do it if I was 6 months pregnant unless there was something wrong with the baby, and even then it would be hard. I just hope to god I would never be in this situation. Me and my boyfriend did speak about 'what if', and its more of a case of 'well cross that bridge if it comes to it'
There are loads of for and against arguments for abortion. I know that some women don't find out they are pregnant until they are quite far gone. My friend just found out she was 5 months pregnant. I think that maybe there should be maybe two stages. Maybe 19 weeks for abortion but extend it to 24 weeks if there is something wrong with the baby. But still there would be arguments about what would be classed as 'wrong'. Some women would class a child as having CF as being 'wrong', but in reality many children can lead normal, happy (albeit shortened) lives.
I know of some girls who have had a few abortions, some to the extent of them regarding it as a form of contraception. If you leave it open at 24 weeks then some girls will just believe that, if they was to get pregnant then they will always have the option of abortion to, fall back on, so to speak. Once is a mistake, twice s unlucky but 3 times? I think the girls dumb enough to be in that situation should have the baby, even if they have to give it up for adoption. Afterall if they are mature enough to have sex, then they should be mature enough to deal with the consequenses.
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