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> Green Day are awesome. Blink are okay. Good Charlotte... erm...
are currently the most varied of the three.
it's worth considering i think. if everyone can see what's so very "wrong" with a genre or a style, then why not have a go yourself?
still, one total duffer in 10 years+ is a good ratio.
> Contradicted yourself there. don't count the likes of Good Charlotte
> as punk because they go against that ethos in their very music.
i'll agree with that, i never said good charlotte were punk in any way because they're not, they're a clothing label with guitars, but that doesn't mean that ALL recent new wave punk bands are.
> All
> they do is whine. Whiney lyrics, whiney guitars. Just because they've
> put it on a record they think they're punk. Nope, not for me.
me either m'man. Good Charloote were manufactured to hop on a (nicely branded) skateboard, cling to the back of whichever bandwagon went by with the most people on it and skitch their way to popularity. a few strings pulled here and there by label owners and BOOM! they're in a transplants video with f***ing kelly osbnourne, playing cards and comparing ill-applied makeup. bands like that are all image and zero substance, which is in no way punk, which makes it all the more annoying for hard working bands who all cram in the back of a van and play for little money while rubbish like this sits pretty on the cover of smash hits.
p.s - Sibs: good list mate, especially Capdown, Anti-flag and All/Descendants. well worth a listen.
> rubbish, you're only a coupla years older than me, certainly not old
> enough to have been part of punk the first time round.
> ya big liar you :P
May not have been part of it, but I remember it's dying days and it died because people lost sight of the 'ethos'.
>
> true to a point. punk isn't a style of music, it's an ethos.
> it's the spirit of "stop moaning and do something", don't
> complain about bad bands, form your own, put gigs on, fund your own
> records, print flyers on your pc and get your mates to photocopy them
> at college.
>"they're not punk, the pistols are punk, the
> clash are punk" as your reasoning simply won't stand. the punk
> DIY scene has moved on, it's not about standing at the back with your
> arms folded going "damn kids, they don't know what they're on
> about" it's about supporting enterprise and freedom of
> expression. the idea of punk has ironically been blurred by the
> people who claim to love it the most.
Contradicted yourself there. don't count the likes of Good Charlotte as punk because they go against that ethos in their very music. All they do is whine. Whiney lyrics, whiney guitars. Just because they've put it on a record they think they're punk. Nope, not for me.
Saying this band is/isn't punk is fine if you're restricting punk to being a simple musical genre, but that misses the point somewhat.
But anyway, if you're looking for some great bands, check out these:
Sonic Boom Six - [URL] http://www.sonicboomsix.co.uk/ [/URL] - Great ska/punk/reggae/dub/hardcore stuff with female MCing vocals... Has to be heard to be believed...
Rise Against - [URL] http://www.riseagainst.com/ [/URL] - Hardcore influenced melodic punk.
Bad Religion - [URL] http://www.badreligion.com/home/ [/URL] - The masters of melodic punk since the 80's, and still going very strong.
Capdown - [URL] http://www.capdown.co.uk/ [/URL] - The UKs finest Ska'rdcore outfit.
Anti-Flag - [URL] http://www.anti-flag.com/ [/URL] - Political US punkers.
Propagandhi - [URL] http://www.propagandhi.com/ [/URL] - Radical political thrash from Canada.
Adequate Seven - [URL] http://www.adequate7.co.uk/ [/URL] - Amazing funk-punkers who are awesome live.
The (International) Noise Conspiracy - [URL] http://www.burningheart.com/bands/index.php?id=209 [/URL] - Swedish garage-punk.
No Comply - [URL] http://www.nocomply.co.uk/index.shtml [/URL] - metallic punk rock with horns.
All / Descendents - [URL] http://www.allcentral.com/ [/URL] - These two bands are essentially the same (each has a different singer, but share all other band members) and each are very good pop-punk stuff.
Yeah, that's about all I can be bothered with, doubt anyone will really check half these out now despite my obvious effort, but I like to try my best...
> What annoys me is people thinking they're hardcore or different for
> listening to them. And I get worked up over it in real life, too.
Anybody that still thinks this is obviously totally oblivious to what is going on in music. Bands like Blink and Greenday are as mainstream as (c)rap and pop nowadays.