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RANT BEGINS
Spider-man 2.
BLOODY AWFUL.
I had more fun and entertainment watching 8 legged freaks.
WTF!? I thought the first one was bad but it was fantastic compared to this movie which was evidently made for the thirteen year-old Buffy fans to jack off to.
I stopped caring by the end of the first hour and by the end I was hopeing he'd fly into one of the choppers and promptly end the movie. I actually had to stop myself from convulsing at the wedding scene, I really should have turned it off after the main villain (poor but what y'gonna do he's from the comic books) died as it managed to nose dive further into a desperate "Watch my 3rd spidehmun moveh PLZ!!!!111" appeal.
The dumbing down was simply staggering 'hello we're going to remind you of each characters motivations every five minutes just incase you nodded off during the vomit inducing doey eyed teeny angst bits'.
THIS is what passes for a good movie these days?
1. Batman
2. Unbreakable (Not a comic movie in the traditional sense which is probably why it's good).
3. Judge Dredd (Flawed but still the best anti-hero comic movie)
4. Hellboy (The humour could actually be classed as funny and the character less of a cardboard creation from dullsville)
At least it's given Raimi the freedom to make another Evil Dead, hopefully he won't devote too much screentime to smaltzy assburgers.
Suddenly StarWars looks good, I mean good! That's so horribly tragic.
Still at least I watched Collateral before I wasted 2 hours of my life on this. Now THAT was a film.
(Oh and prizes for those who get the bastardised quote from the title)
RANT OVER
Spider-man 2.
BLOODY AWFUL.
I had more fun and entertainment watching 8 legged freaks.
WTF!? I thought the first one was bad but it was fantastic compared to this movie which was evidently made for the thirteen year-old Buffy fans to jack off to.
I stopped caring by the end of the first hour and by the end I was hopeing he'd fly into one of the choppers and promptly end the movie. I actually had to stop myself from convulsing at the wedding scene, I really should have turned it off after the main villain (poor but what y'gonna do he's from the comic books) died as it managed to nose dive further into a desperate "Watch my 3rd spidehmun moveh PLZ!!!!111" appeal.
The dumbing down was simply staggering 'hello we're going to remind you of each characters motivations every five minutes just incase you nodded off during the vomit inducing doey eyed teeny angst bits'.
THIS is what passes for a good movie these days?
1. Batman
2. Unbreakable (Not a comic movie in the traditional sense which is probably why it's good).
3. Judge Dredd (Flawed but still the best anti-hero comic movie)
4. Hellboy (The humour could actually be classed as funny and the character less of a cardboard creation from dullsville)
At least it's given Raimi the freedom to make another Evil Dead, hopefully he won't devote too much screentime to smaltzy assburgers.
Suddenly StarWars looks good, I mean good! That's so horribly tragic.
Still at least I watched Collateral before I wasted 2 hours of my life on this. Now THAT was a film.
(Oh and prizes for those who get the bastardised quote from the title)
RANT OVER
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Pandaemonium wrote:
> If you're gonna do Dredd, you've got to do it deadly serious.
Then you must have missed at least half of what the whole Dredd thing's about. There's plenty of swipes at popular culture (the closest thing on TV would be Monkey Dust - pretty much any character from that show would be at home in Mega City One) and plenty of funny situations (The story where Dredd has to sort out an army of pleasure bots trying to hump anything that moves for example).
The Film was like one of the very early sagas (where Dredd fights off numerous threats whilst travelling to somewhere) that didn't have much humour.
The plot was actually a simplified version of one of the more memeorable plots from 2000AD (Rico, Dredd's brother returns takes over Maga City with the help of some made Chief Justice who takes orders from a fish) with various cameos.
As far as comic book anti-heroes go, one hasn't been done better yet.
Apparently there are two more movies in production by a different firm one involving Judge Death which most people wanted to be the main villain in the first movie.
> If you're gonna do Dredd, you've got to do it deadly serious.
Then you must have missed at least half of what the whole Dredd thing's about. There's plenty of swipes at popular culture (the closest thing on TV would be Monkey Dust - pretty much any character from that show would be at home in Mega City One) and plenty of funny situations (The story where Dredd has to sort out an army of pleasure bots trying to hump anything that moves for example).
The Film was like one of the very early sagas (where Dredd fights off numerous threats whilst travelling to somewhere) that didn't have much humour.
The plot was actually a simplified version of one of the more memeorable plots from 2000AD (Rico, Dredd's brother returns takes over Maga City with the help of some made Chief Justice who takes orders from a fish) with various cameos.
As far as comic book anti-heroes go, one hasn't been done better yet.
Apparently there are two more movies in production by a different firm one involving Judge Death which most people wanted to be the main villain in the first movie.
Hedfix wrote:
> None of those reminiscent of Evil Dead 2.
FFS you're not half getting a bee in your bonnet about this eh?
Raimis directing style is what I mean by "straight from Evil Dead II"
Check out "Evil Dead", "Crimewave", "Evil Dead II", "Darkman" etc etc to see that he uses the same cinematic style time and time again. This isn't a bad thing. I could watch an action scene of in Riami movie and immidiately say "This is a riami movie", and indeed I did with "Quick and the Dead" (yes, it's crap)........
Bye Bye. This is going nowhere.
> None of those reminiscent of Evil Dead 2.
FFS you're not half getting a bee in your bonnet about this eh?
Raimis directing style is what I mean by "straight from Evil Dead II"
Check out "Evil Dead", "Crimewave", "Evil Dead II", "Darkman" etc etc to see that he uses the same cinematic style time and time again. This isn't a bad thing. I could watch an action scene of in Riami movie and immidiately say "This is a riami movie", and indeed I did with "Quick and the Dead" (yes, it's crap)........
Bye Bye. This is going nowhere.
Judge Dredd? Ahahahahahahahaa.
Pandaemonium wrote:
>
> Yeah, I mention one scene. There's also the first experiment, the
> building climb and fight, the operating table, the car throught the
> window, the train (suspension of disbelief a must) and the final
> fight. Also, the octavius legs were really well done and put to
> imaginative use.
None of those reminiscent of Evil Dead 2.
>
> Yeah, I mention one scene. There's also the first experiment, the
> building climb and fight, the operating table, the car throught the
> window, the train (suspension of disbelief a must) and the final
> fight. Also, the octavius legs were really well done and put to
> imaginative use.
None of those reminiscent of Evil Dead 2.
Hedfix wrote:
> But the characters are poorly done, why expand up a blatantly weak
> feature?
Well, again, that's your opinion. I felt the characters are head and shoulders above the usual comic book adaptations.
> That's 1 scene and by that reasoning an episode of American Gothic
> rivals Spiderman 2 (and is infact better).
Yeah, I mention one scene. I also said "parts where Riami really cut loose". There's also the first experiment, the building climb and fight, the operating table, the car throught the window, the train (suspension of disbelief a must) and the final fight. Also, the octavius legs were really well done and put to imaginative use.
> No it's got some choice lines, some good locations and the characters
> aren't the usual cardboard cutout 'geek',
> 'prom-queen-gets-everything' etc fare, the plot's interesting without
> getting to bogged down in itself + Rob Schneider makes it absolutely
> excellent in points.
>
> Definately the funnier and more entertaining, if not always for the
> right reasons.
Well, you and me are going to have to part company on this one. The "look" of the movie was spot on as were the charatcers (name changes in the Angel gang nonewithstanding) as was the inclusion of Hammerstein from the ABC warriors, but the script and direction absolutely sucked and the plot made little sense. It sucked to me, and it sucked to a lot of other people who were brought up on the Dredd mythology. Schneider was the most irritating comic relief since Chris Rock in the Fifth Element. If you're gonna do Dredd, you've got to do it deadly serious.
You can argue on, but you have your opinion, I have mine. Your's isn't going to change, neither is mine.
> But the characters are poorly done, why expand up a blatantly weak
> feature?
Well, again, that's your opinion. I felt the characters are head and shoulders above the usual comic book adaptations.
> That's 1 scene and by that reasoning an episode of American Gothic
> rivals Spiderman 2 (and is infact better).
Yeah, I mention one scene. I also said "parts where Riami really cut loose". There's also the first experiment, the building climb and fight, the operating table, the car throught the window, the train (suspension of disbelief a must) and the final fight. Also, the octavius legs were really well done and put to imaginative use.
> No it's got some choice lines, some good locations and the characters
> aren't the usual cardboard cutout 'geek',
> 'prom-queen-gets-everything' etc fare, the plot's interesting without
> getting to bogged down in itself + Rob Schneider makes it absolutely
> excellent in points.
>
> Definately the funnier and more entertaining, if not always for the
> right reasons.
Well, you and me are going to have to part company on this one. The "look" of the movie was spot on as were the charatcers (name changes in the Angel gang nonewithstanding) as was the inclusion of Hammerstein from the ABC warriors, but the script and direction absolutely sucked and the plot made little sense. It sucked to me, and it sucked to a lot of other people who were brought up on the Dredd mythology. Schneider was the most irritating comic relief since Chris Rock in the Fifth Element. If you're gonna do Dredd, you've got to do it deadly serious.
You can argue on, but you have your opinion, I have mine. Your's isn't going to change, neither is mine.
Pandaemonium wrote:
> I really enjoyed it. I thought it had far more characterisation than
> the first, which I hated.
But the characters are poorly done, why expand up a blatantly weak feature?
>
> Plus, there were parts where Riami really cut loose. The operating
> table sequence was straight from Evil Dead II.
That's 1 scene and by that reasoning an episode of American Gothic rivals Spiderman 2 (and is infact better).
>
> Oh, and Judge Dredd is awful, and a poke in the eye to the Comic.
No it's got some choice lines, some good locations and the characters aren't the usual cardboard cutout 'geek', 'prom-queen-gets-everything' etc fare, the plot's interesting without getting to bogged down in itself + Rob Schneider makes it absolutely excellent in points.
Definately the funnier and more entertaining, if not always for the right reasons.
> I really enjoyed it. I thought it had far more characterisation than
> the first, which I hated.
But the characters are poorly done, why expand up a blatantly weak feature?
>
> Plus, there were parts where Riami really cut loose. The operating
> table sequence was straight from Evil Dead II.
That's 1 scene and by that reasoning an episode of American Gothic rivals Spiderman 2 (and is infact better).
>
> Oh, and Judge Dredd is awful, and a poke in the eye to the Comic.
No it's got some choice lines, some good locations and the characters aren't the usual cardboard cutout 'geek', 'prom-queen-gets-everything' etc fare, the plot's interesting without getting to bogged down in itself + Rob Schneider makes it absolutely excellent in points.
Definately the funnier and more entertaining, if not always for the right reasons.
I really enjoyed it. I thought it had far more characterisation than the first, which I hated.
Plus, there were parts where Riami really cut loose. The operating table sequence was straight from Evil Dead II.
Oh, and Judge Dredd is awful, and a poke in the eye to the Comic.
Plus, there were parts where Riami really cut loose. The operating table sequence was straight from Evil Dead II.
Oh, and Judge Dredd is awful, and a poke in the eye to the Comic.
RANT BEGINS
Spider-man 2.
BLOODY AWFUL.
I had more fun and entertainment watching 8 legged freaks.
WTF!? I thought the first one was bad but it was fantastic compared to this movie which was evidently made for the thirteen year-old Buffy fans to jack off to.
I stopped caring by the end of the first hour and by the end I was hopeing he'd fly into one of the choppers and promptly end the movie. I actually had to stop myself from convulsing at the wedding scene, I really should have turned it off after the main villain (poor but what y'gonna do he's from the comic books) died as it managed to nose dive further into a desperate "Watch my 3rd spidehmun moveh PLZ!!!!111" appeal.
The dumbing down was simply staggering 'hello we're going to remind you of each characters motivations every five minutes just incase you nodded off during the vomit inducing doey eyed teeny angst bits'.
THIS is what passes for a good movie these days?
1. Batman
2. Unbreakable (Not a comic movie in the traditional sense which is probably why it's good).
3. Judge Dredd (Flawed but still the best anti-hero comic movie)
4. Hellboy (The humour could actually be classed as funny and the character less of a cardboard creation from dullsville)
At least it's given Raimi the freedom to make another Evil Dead, hopefully he won't devote too much screentime to smaltzy assburgers.
Suddenly StarWars looks good, I mean good! That's so horribly tragic.
Still at least I watched Collateral before I wasted 2 hours of my life on this. Now THAT was a film.
(Oh and prizes for those who get the bastardised quote from the title)
RANT OVER
Spider-man 2.
BLOODY AWFUL.
I had more fun and entertainment watching 8 legged freaks.
WTF!? I thought the first one was bad but it was fantastic compared to this movie which was evidently made for the thirteen year-old Buffy fans to jack off to.
I stopped caring by the end of the first hour and by the end I was hopeing he'd fly into one of the choppers and promptly end the movie. I actually had to stop myself from convulsing at the wedding scene, I really should have turned it off after the main villain (poor but what y'gonna do he's from the comic books) died as it managed to nose dive further into a desperate "Watch my 3rd spidehmun moveh PLZ!!!!111" appeal.
The dumbing down was simply staggering 'hello we're going to remind you of each characters motivations every five minutes just incase you nodded off during the vomit inducing doey eyed teeny angst bits'.
THIS is what passes for a good movie these days?
1. Batman
2. Unbreakable (Not a comic movie in the traditional sense which is probably why it's good).
3. Judge Dredd (Flawed but still the best anti-hero comic movie)
4. Hellboy (The humour could actually be classed as funny and the character less of a cardboard creation from dullsville)
At least it's given Raimi the freedom to make another Evil Dead, hopefully he won't devote too much screentime to smaltzy assburgers.
Suddenly StarWars looks good, I mean good! That's so horribly tragic.
Still at least I watched Collateral before I wasted 2 hours of my life on this. Now THAT was a film.
(Oh and prizes for those who get the bastardised quote from the title)
RANT OVER
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