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From a thread in General Chat; I was wondering whether Forest would like to show some courage for a change...
Forest Fan wrote:
> Not really. There's still no science involved in that answer. (the answer being about the age of the earth)
As opposed to the scientific calculation that went into the answer "God made everything in 7 days"? Could you show the working out for that one please dear boy?
Or maybe you'd like to explain just how you worked out the age of the earth? Because, y'know, adding together the ages of everyone in the Bible is a method that simple reeks of science.
Oh, and you never did bother to explain what you think the definition of a closed system was. After all, you banged on about the 2nd Law for long enough. I would have thought you'd be delighted to show your expertise on the matter by stating why this little planet of ours is a closed system under the 2nd Law. In your own time my cowardly little friend...
Forest Fan wrote:
> Not really. There's still no science involved in that answer. (the answer being about the age of the earth)
As opposed to the scientific calculation that went into the answer "God made everything in 7 days"? Could you show the working out for that one please dear boy?
Or maybe you'd like to explain just how you worked out the age of the earth? Because, y'know, adding together the ages of everyone in the Bible is a method that simple reeks of science.
Oh, and you never did bother to explain what you think the definition of a closed system was. After all, you banged on about the 2nd Law for long enough. I would have thought you'd be delighted to show your expertise on the matter by stating why this little planet of ours is a closed system under the 2nd Law. In your own time my cowardly little friend...
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Light wrote:
> sweet tooth wrote:
> the bible to me is like an old comic with the super hero called God
> and his side kick was Jesus !
>
> Don't forget the Holy Spirit; the Commissioner Gordon of the Holy
> Trinity.
Holy Incense Smoke Raptureman! To the Popemobile!
> sweet tooth wrote:
> the bible to me is like an old comic with the super hero called God
> and his side kick was Jesus !
>
> Don't forget the Holy Spirit; the Commissioner Gordon of the Holy
> Trinity.
Holy Incense Smoke Raptureman! To the Popemobile!
sweet tooth wrote:
> the bible to me is like an old comic with the super hero called God
> and his side kick was Jesus !
sorry sticking nose in again !
> the bible to me is like an old comic with the super hero called God
> and his side kick was Jesus !
sorry sticking nose in again !
sweet tooth wrote:
> the bible to me is like an old comic with the super hero called God
> and his side kick was Jesus !
Don't forget the Holy Spirit; the Commissioner Gordon of the Holy Trinity.
> the bible to me is like an old comic with the super hero called God
> and his side kick was Jesus !
Don't forget the Holy Spirit; the Commissioner Gordon of the Holy Trinity.
Pandaemonium wrote:
>
> Oh yeah, but figuring it's realated to the 2nd law I thought it was
> interesting. FFs heavily flawed argument still stands.
Course it does. You know him; if he doesn't understand it, he dismisses it. Hence he dismisses a lot of scientific though. Still, he's just a kid and kids can be so full of themselves, so...
>
> Heh.
>
> On a side note, his special observe profile, he says: -
>
> "As you've probably guessed, I'm a big UKIP fan. I would like
> nothing more than to see UKIP running the country, with Frank Maloney
> as mayor of London.
Lordy...why doesn't he just come out and say "I don't like people of darker skin tone than me, and anyone speaking foreign should be shot"? Still, I'm sure we all remember Jesus' sermon from the mount when he clearly stated "And verily shalt thou create divisions among thyselves so that thy petty dislikes and hatred may simmer for years to come."
> Aside from that, I believe the rapture will
> happen soon, when Jesus takes all the believers away from the
> tribulation, before the Anti-Christ and his False Prophet come to
> power through the EU."
>
> What I'd love to know, is if the rapture doesn't happen soon,
> and he's aware of his surroundings on his death bed, would he feel
> cheated by God?
To be honest, that reads like the manifesto of a mass-suicide cult. You just know that a scruffy failure with delusions of grandeur is going to be asking his 10 or so followers to drink the divine mix of Kool aid and Cyanide like a second rate Jim Jones.
>
> Oh yeah, but figuring it's realated to the 2nd law I thought it was
> interesting. FFs heavily flawed argument still stands.
Course it does. You know him; if he doesn't understand it, he dismisses it. Hence he dismisses a lot of scientific though. Still, he's just a kid and kids can be so full of themselves, so...
>
> Heh.
>
> On a side note, his special observe profile, he says: -
>
> "As you've probably guessed, I'm a big UKIP fan. I would like
> nothing more than to see UKIP running the country, with Frank Maloney
> as mayor of London.
Lordy...why doesn't he just come out and say "I don't like people of darker skin tone than me, and anyone speaking foreign should be shot"? Still, I'm sure we all remember Jesus' sermon from the mount when he clearly stated "And verily shalt thou create divisions among thyselves so that thy petty dislikes and hatred may simmer for years to come."
> Aside from that, I believe the rapture will
> happen soon, when Jesus takes all the believers away from the
> tribulation, before the Anti-Christ and his False Prophet come to
> power through the EU."
>
> What I'd love to know, is if the rapture doesn't happen soon,
> and he's aware of his surroundings on his death bed, would he feel
> cheated by God?
To be honest, that reads like the manifesto of a mass-suicide cult. You just know that a scruffy failure with delusions of grandeur is going to be asking his 10 or so followers to drink the divine mix of Kool aid and Cyanide like a second rate Jim Jones.
the bible to me is like an old comic with the super hero called God and his side kick was Jesus !
Light wrote:
> Hmm...that made interesting reading. I hadn't realised that the 2nd
> Law had in any way been disproved; I was relying on the fact that
> creationists ALWAYS try to misdirect people from the fact that the
> 2nd Law only applies in a closed system, and the Universe itself
> isn't a closed system.
Oh yeah, but figuring it's realated to the 2nd law I thought it was interesting. FFs heavily flawed argument still stands.
> I'm still waiting on the rabbi I emailed to get back to me about the
> impossibility of being a Jewish Christian too. I figure that doing
> all this is like a little Xmas present to Forest.
Heh.
On a side note, his special observe profile, he says: -
"As you've probably guessed, I'm a big UKIP fan. I would like nothing more than to see UKIP running the country, with Frank Maloney as mayor of London. Aside from that, I believe the rapture will happen soon, when Jesus takes all the believers away from the tribulation, before the Anti-Christ and his False Prophet come to power through the EU."
What I'd love to know, is if the rapture doesn't happen soon, and he's aware of his surroundings on his death bed, would he feel cheated by God?
> Hmm...that made interesting reading. I hadn't realised that the 2nd
> Law had in any way been disproved; I was relying on the fact that
> creationists ALWAYS try to misdirect people from the fact that the
> 2nd Law only applies in a closed system, and the Universe itself
> isn't a closed system.
Oh yeah, but figuring it's realated to the 2nd law I thought it was interesting. FFs heavily flawed argument still stands.
> I'm still waiting on the rabbi I emailed to get back to me about the
> impossibility of being a Jewish Christian too. I figure that doing
> all this is like a little Xmas present to Forest.
Heh.
On a side note, his special observe profile, he says: -
"As you've probably guessed, I'm a big UKIP fan. I would like nothing more than to see UKIP running the country, with Frank Maloney as mayor of London. Aside from that, I believe the rapture will happen soon, when Jesus takes all the believers away from the tribulation, before the Anti-Christ and his False Prophet come to power through the EU."
What I'd love to know, is if the rapture doesn't happen soon, and he's aware of his surroundings on his death bed, would he feel cheated by God?
Hmm...that made interesting reading. I hadn't realised that the 2nd Law had in any way been disproved; I was relying on the fact that creationists ALWAYS try to misdirect people from the fact that the 2nd Law only applies in a closed system, and the Universe itself isn't a closed system.
I'm still waiting on the rabbi I emailed to get back to me about the impossibility of being a Jewish Christian too. I figure that doing all this is like a little Xmas present to Forest.
I'm still waiting on the rabbi I emailed to get back to me about the impossibility of being a Jewish Christian too. I figure that doing all this is like a little Xmas present to Forest.
Cobbled together from a website.
"2. Heat always passes from a hotter body to a colder body, and entropy (disorder) always increases with time."
Creationalists argue that macroevolution (all life came out of the sea, man evolved from apes, etc.) could never have occurred because the second law of thermodynamics proves that order does not randomly develop from disorder. Entropy always increases. Because the early world was in such a state of disorder, and we now find ourselved in an orderly world (comparatively speaking), the only other explanation is that the order was the doing of God.
[URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2135779.stm[/URL]
"One of the most important principles of physics, that disorder, or entropy, always increases, has been shown to be untrue.
Scientists at the Australian National University (ANU) have carried out an experiment involving lasers and microscopic beads that disobeys the so-called Second Law of Thermodynamics, something many scientists had considered impossible. . . .
This Second Law of Thermodynamics says that the disorder of the Universe can only increase in time, but the equations of classical and quantum mechanics, the laws that govern the behaviour of the very small, are time reversible.
A few years ago, a tentative theoretical solution to this paradox was proposed - the so-called Fluctuation Theorem - stating that the chances of the Second Law being violated increases as the system in question gets smaller.
This means that at human scales, the Second Law dominates and machines only ever run in one direction. However, when working at molecular scales and over extremely short periods of time, things can take place in either direction.
Now, scientists have demonstrated that principle experimentally."
"2. Heat always passes from a hotter body to a colder body, and entropy (disorder) always increases with time."
Creationalists argue that macroevolution (all life came out of the sea, man evolved from apes, etc.) could never have occurred because the second law of thermodynamics proves that order does not randomly develop from disorder. Entropy always increases. Because the early world was in such a state of disorder, and we now find ourselved in an orderly world (comparatively speaking), the only other explanation is that the order was the doing of God.
[URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2135779.stm[/URL]
"One of the most important principles of physics, that disorder, or entropy, always increases, has been shown to be untrue.
Scientists at the Australian National University (ANU) have carried out an experiment involving lasers and microscopic beads that disobeys the so-called Second Law of Thermodynamics, something many scientists had considered impossible. . . .
This Second Law of Thermodynamics says that the disorder of the Universe can only increase in time, but the equations of classical and quantum mechanics, the laws that govern the behaviour of the very small, are time reversible.
A few years ago, a tentative theoretical solution to this paradox was proposed - the so-called Fluctuation Theorem - stating that the chances of the Second Law being violated increases as the system in question gets smaller.
This means that at human scales, the Second Law dominates and machines only ever run in one direction. However, when working at molecular scales and over extremely short periods of time, things can take place in either direction.
Now, scientists have demonstrated that principle experimentally."
He's Christian and the bible says that God made earth in 7 days.
sorry to bug you but does forest fan belive god made everything in 7 days ?
iknow im nosey!
iknow im nosey!
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