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"Science and the Bible"

From a thread in General Chat; I was wondering whether Forest would like to show some courage for a change...

Forest Fan wrote:
> Not really. There's still no science involved in that answer. (the answer being about the age of the earth)

As opposed to the scientific calculation that went into the answer "God made everything in 7 days"? Could you show the working out for that one please dear boy?

Or maybe you'd like to explain just how you worked out the age of the earth? Because, y'know, adding together the ages of everyone in the Bible is a method that simple reeks of science.

Oh, and you never did bother to explain what you think the definition of a closed system was. After all, you banged on about the 2nd Law for long enough. I would have thought you'd be delighted to show your expertise on the matter by stating why this little planet of ours is a closed system under the 2nd Law. In your own time my cowardly little friend...

Biggles, what about that famous quote with the eternal torment, the worm and the nashing of teeth?
(A member of Nottingham Universities Christian Union dropped that on some of my friends in a speach at a carol service a couple of weeks back - not quite the Christmas spirit they were looking for! :-D)

I'm sure that was new testament. Either revelations or possibly something Jesus once said... but either way, when did Jesus ever speak literally?
It was always in parables and riddles, so rather than give some stupid rules that someone would find a way to abuse, he gave an example from which people could work out for themselves what the right and wrong was.

Dave Gorman taught me about the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Not many people can say that.

I can just imagine this...

*FF's dad mashes thumb with hammer*
"JESUS that hurt"
*FF appears*
"Your sins are forgiven dad"

Notorious Biggles wrote:
> It does, but only in a symbolic way meaning destruction. Not torture
> or pain or anything, just finito.
>
> FF had issues understanding that the bible wasn't written in English.

FF has issues understanding that the bible isn't a message directly addressed to, and all about him...

It does, but only in a symbolic way meaning destruction. Not torture or pain or anything, just finito.

FF had issues understanding that the bible wasn't written in English.

Notorious Biggles wrote:

> Oh and I still want him to admit that the bible doesn't teach hell,
> but that it was adopted from Hinduism.

Doesn't the book of Revelations mention Hell? I may well be wrong to be honest, but I thought that wacky fire and brimstone book banged on about it.

The worst thing about his fundamentalism is he doesn't seem to understand that there is a difference between Hebrew words and English words. Day for instance in Hebrew doesn't necessarily mean a definite 24 hour period, but rather it would have been better translated as "some indeterminately long time period covering anything from seconds to billions of millenia". Kinda breaks up the flow though.

Oh and I still want him to admit that the bible doesn't teach hell, but that it was adopted from Hinduism.

dont get me wrong people can belive in whatever they want !!

See, if someone has faith in something then that's fine. It's when they use spurious science to try and prove their faith that the problems occur. For starters, the very definition of faith makes proof an impossibility.

Lol if someone cant prove something was real then i cant belive not only that but the whole thing stupid mary had a fling with someone else and coverd her tracks by saying god made her pregnant !