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Wed 17/11/04 at 17:02
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I was explaining to the missus last night about how Michael Moore got booed when he mentioned the Iraq "war" at the OSCARs when on the same night a man, who was wanted by the authorities because he admitted having sex with a 13 year-old, was cheered and clapped.

And now the same bloke (Roman Polanksi) wants to be allowed to give evidence in a British libel case from France because he's worried that if he comes to England he'll be extradited to the US.

[URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/4019031.stm[/URL]

What a complete and utter ####.
Thu 18/11/04 at 16:39
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Well you know what the Yanks are like... they will probably charge him with evading the law also, which adds like 4 years to a prision sentence
Thu 18/11/04 at 16:38
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The Confederate wrote:
> Like I said Light, I watched a program about him on the Biography
> Channel.. I was channel switching and It just started, and it spent
> about 20 minutes on this whole topic. And he spoke about the whole
> misconception about it. The media blew the situation out of
> porportion, like they do with most things.


Right. So you believe a documentary without question? Maybe...maybe the documentary was biased in his favour!!

Or maybe it wasn't. Or maybe you've made a sweeping statement and now you're looking for ways to justify it. Who knows...
Thu 18/11/04 at 16:36
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The Confederate wrote:
> No Tim your missing the point. In the Roman incident the girl lied about her age... This
> means that he entered sexual intercourse on a false pretence. This means that its not his
> fault the girl lied and turn out to be younger. There are more sick people in this world than
> Roman Polanski. He apologise for the act, and stated "That he never would have done it, if he
> knew her real age". B***h about something else tim.

So why's he hiding in France and is scared of coming to Britain? If it's the girls fault then he's got no worries about facing the law in the US which he's running from since 1977.

And my original b!tch was about the fact that on one hand he disregards the law by running and hiding from a serious charge but at the same time wants to be allowed to testify on what basically is a comparatively minor thing: a libel case.
Thu 18/11/04 at 16:33
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Like I said Light, I watched a program about him on the Biography Channel.. I was channel switching and It just started, and it spent about 20 minutes on this whole topic. And he spoke about the whole misconception about it. The media blew the situation out of porportion, like they do with most things.
Thu 18/11/04 at 16:30
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The Confederate wrote:
> No Tim your missing the point. In the Roman incident the girl lied
> about her age... This means that he entered sexual intercourse on a
> false pretence. This means that its not his fault the girl lied and
> turn out to be younger. There are more sick people in this world than
> Roman Polanski. He apologise for the act, and stated "That he
> never would have done it, if he knew her real age". B***h about
> something else tim.

You seem to know an awful lot about the whole Polanski thing. Why's that?



>
> If you want something to go on about, only today, 5 famous
> footballers raped a 15 year old. Was in the one of the Tabliods,

Ah, then it must be true.

> cant
> tell you which one because I dont read them, was on the back next to
> the England Spain Result

So you don't read 'em, but you're happy to bring it up as a subject of outrage?
Thu 18/11/04 at 16:19
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No Tim your missing the point. In the Roman incident the girl lied about her age... This means that he entered sexual intercourse on a false pretence. This means that its not his fault the girl lied and turn out to be younger. There are more sick people in this world than Roman Polanski. He apologise for the act, and stated "That he never would have done it, if he knew her real age". B***h about something else tim.

If you want something to go on about, only today, 5 famous footballers raped a 15 year old. Was in the one of the Tabliods, cant tell you which one because I dont read them, was on the back next to the England Spain Result
Thu 18/11/04 at 16:14
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The Confederate wrote:
> ... It's gotta be the girls fault

The Confederate wrote:
> ... It was the parents fault for letting their daughter out

Make up your bleedin' mind, d##khead.

So, it was either the girls fault for lying about her age or the parents fault for not locking her in her bedroom, but definitely not the guys fault at all. No way. After all, she [I}said[/I] she was 18 so that makes it okay. Absolutely.


> in todays paper a 15 year old girl got a abortion, and is pregnant again. They showed a
> pic of her in plain clothes, and she does look older than in school uniform.

Oh, right, so because she looks older that absolves any guy who sleeps with her of all responsibility?

"But she was asking to be raped because she was wearing a short skirt."
Thu 18/11/04 at 16:10
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So...if most abusers were abused, does that mean we let them get on with it and castigate anyone dumb enough to let their kids anywhere near them? Do we have to go back in time to find the original abuser (maybe it's a bit like looking for the master Vampire a la Lost Boys)?

Personally, I dunno what happened with Polanski. I've seen situations where someone chucked themselves up a young lass and she was obviously a victim. By the same token, I've just as often seen extraordinarily young girls passing themselves off as 18 (it's amazing what push up bra's, advanced make-up application, and beer goggles will do to aid that) in order to...well, live out the fantasy that they're grown ups. And they invariably find they didn't want to grow up quite as quick as they thought.

This could be one, could be the other. But whilst he avoids any semblance of accountability for it, who will know?
Thu 18/11/04 at 15:53
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Notorious Biggles has proved my point. It was the parents fault for letting their daughter out, plus, now-a-days, only in todays paper a 15 year old girl got a abortion, and is pregnant again. They showed a pic of her in plain clothes, and she does look older than in school uniform.

This is also highlighted as a social problem in Trainspotting, as well as drug problems in scotland.
Thu 18/11/04 at 13:27
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Notorious Biggles wrote:

> Also, his state of mind was likely going to have been affected
> somewhat. His pregnant mother, killed in a concentration camp.
> Growing up in the ghettos. Having his 8 months pregnant wife
> murdered, her stomach slit open to see the fetus, and several friends
> also murdered at the same time by the Manson gang in his own home
> whilst he was away. That's gotta do stuff to you.
>
> Not that it was excusable, but I don't think anyone could rightly
> claim that he was all there in his head.

Yeah but thats just scapegoatism in its purest form.

"I stole a tin of beans, BUT my father once hit me with a belt when I was 7"

It's irrelevent.

So he went through all this sick stuff, poor guy, he has my sympathy. Phycholigically it could desensertise him to violence, perhaps make him an unbalanced person who beats people for things. Perhaps one of those people who enjoys being strangled during sex to heighten the thrill as he maybe associates sex and violence as being to extremes. However to say that seeing all this violence makes him like kiddies is a little strange, no?

I might be wrong, hell I probably am, I haven't studied psychology it's just my sense of logic spilling out.

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