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Yet another installment in the Nintendo series, the Gamecube is set to arrive,...In about 10 years time knowing Nintendo. I suppose with the new-ish UK offices in Surrey we will see games a lot sooner in ratio that we did with the N64 but will the Gamecube be all that good?!
I am really not that sure, I mean people to date still prefer SNES's to N64's, but i suppose just in the same way people prefer PSX's to PS2's. But will the Gamecube end up further down the list?! The games in talks are sequels, Rogue Squadron, Zelda, Mario, Wave Race, Metroid. Okay so metroid is new in style but seriously, will these games offer anymore than their predecessors, or even their predecessors, predecessors?!
Same old link, fighting people, out to save the world. Bowser is back yet again, Mario kills him whoopie do. Look at me, my jet-ski has more polygons...not that you really noticed but it is a matter of principle....right?!
The Gamecube is definitely a powerful machine, comparable to the X-Box and PS2 by all means, but as history has shown, the console doesn't mean a thing, nor does the release date, as the Saturn was released before the PSX even if by a month or so. It is the games, and I think there will come a point where people eventually say "No!" to Mario and Link. I know they haven't with regards to Final Fantasy but each one is a new adventure, the storylines and characters even differ, but not so much the case with Mario.
I will get a Gamecube I like the games, I love the company and the idea of playing another Mario or Zelda is great...but surely this contradicts your previous point Game.....well not really as I am one in about 50 million people who play games...others may want new games, new genres and new characters.
I suppose I am getting a Gamecube partly because I am Nintendo Loyal, I wouldn't get a PS2, I don't like the company, the games won't include Zelda and Mario and above all they are in competition with Nintendo and as I said "I am getting a Gamecube partly because I am Nintendo Loyal".
The Gamecube won't really be the same.....there will be new games, veteran characters in all new adventures, and plus with all the 3rd party support what is to say that the Gamecube won't boast better versions and sequels to the games that made the PSX a success?!
Successful games, most of the time, are followed up by a sequel, Banjo-Kazooie, Metal Gear Solid, Crazy Taxi, Sonic Adventure. The only reason games are successful is because people like them, and as a result they buy them. There were about 30-40 solid Games on the N64, from Mario 64 to Wave Race and Goldeneye to Zelda. There really is no reason for companies like Rare and Nintendo NOT to make sequels for the Gamecube. People want sequels for assurace of a good games. Okay so not all sequels are the best or even better than their predecessors but with Rare and Nintendo, as sick as you might be of hearing it, their sequels are bound to hit home.
"Rare have done it again" and "Nintendo Classic" sound all too familiar but at least them being familiar means that they continually make games that please. It has happened with the N64 and it will happen with the Gamecube. The games may be similar, especially to start off with but you can be guaranteed that they will be good.
MGS2 and GT3 are all well and good, but with those two being the only 2 MAJOR exclusives because of serious competition from Microsoft and Nintendo they haven't got enough backing to make a serious shot. MGS2 will no doubt take the PS2's off the shelves but you think that a Gamecube will over 15 release games won't?! Mario...full 3D...bigger, better adventure more of everything...Mario Kart 128...enough Said?!
So if you think that they will be the same old Nintendo games, especially to start off with, then you're probably right, but that is what I, and many other people love as Nintendo fans. And if you don't like it, fine, Get a Playstation 2 but with Rare, Nintendo, and more developers than you can shake your PS2 controller at do you really want to be on the OTHER team...
....Thought not...
Game: Hyping the Gamecube since E3 2000!
I am really not that sure, I mean people to date still prefer SNES's to N64's, but i suppose just in the same way people prefer PSX's to PS2's. But will the Gamecube end up further down the list?! The games in talks are sequels, Rogue Squadron, Zelda, Mario, Wave Race, Metroid. Okay so metroid is new in style but seriously, will these games offer anymore than their predecessors, or even their predecessors, predecessors?!
Same old link, fighting people, out to save the world. Bowser is back yet again, Mario kills him whoopie do. Look at me, my jet-ski has more polygons...not that you really noticed but it is a matter of principle....right?!
The Gamecube is definitely a powerful machine, comparable to the X-Box and PS2 by all means, but as history has shown, the console doesn't mean a thing, nor does the release date, as the Saturn was released before the PSX even if by a month or so. It is the games, and I think there will come a point where people eventually say "No!" to Mario and Link. I know they haven't with regards to Final Fantasy but each one is a new adventure, the storylines and characters even differ, but not so much the case with Mario.
I will get a Gamecube I like the games, I love the company and the idea of playing another Mario or Zelda is great...but surely this contradicts your previous point Game.....well not really as I am one in about 50 million people who play games...others may want new games, new genres and new characters.
I suppose I am getting a Gamecube partly because I am Nintendo Loyal, I wouldn't get a PS2, I don't like the company, the games won't include Zelda and Mario and above all they are in competition with Nintendo and as I said "I am getting a Gamecube partly because I am Nintendo Loyal".
The Gamecube won't really be the same.....there will be new games, veteran characters in all new adventures, and plus with all the 3rd party support what is to say that the Gamecube won't boast better versions and sequels to the games that made the PSX a success?!
Successful games, most of the time, are followed up by a sequel, Banjo-Kazooie, Metal Gear Solid, Crazy Taxi, Sonic Adventure. The only reason games are successful is because people like them, and as a result they buy them. There were about 30-40 solid Games on the N64, from Mario 64 to Wave Race and Goldeneye to Zelda. There really is no reason for companies like Rare and Nintendo NOT to make sequels for the Gamecube. People want sequels for assurace of a good games. Okay so not all sequels are the best or even better than their predecessors but with Rare and Nintendo, as sick as you might be of hearing it, their sequels are bound to hit home.
"Rare have done it again" and "Nintendo Classic" sound all too familiar but at least them being familiar means that they continually make games that please. It has happened with the N64 and it will happen with the Gamecube. The games may be similar, especially to start off with but you can be guaranteed that they will be good.
MGS2 and GT3 are all well and good, but with those two being the only 2 MAJOR exclusives because of serious competition from Microsoft and Nintendo they haven't got enough backing to make a serious shot. MGS2 will no doubt take the PS2's off the shelves but you think that a Gamecube will over 15 release games won't?! Mario...full 3D...bigger, better adventure more of everything...Mario Kart 128...enough Said?!
So if you think that they will be the same old Nintendo games, especially to start off with, then you're probably right, but that is what I, and many other people love as Nintendo fans. And if you don't like it, fine, Get a Playstation 2 but with Rare, Nintendo, and more developers than you can shake your PS2 controller at do you really want to be on the OTHER team...
....Thought not...
Game: Hyping the Gamecube since E3 2000!
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Grix Thraves wrote:
> Yeah, that beer looks really childish.
It's a good job there is some milk to attract the adult gamers....:D
Mmmmm....Pie...
Game
> Yeah, that beer looks really childish.
It's a good job there is some milk to attract the adult gamers....:D
Mmmmm....Pie...
Game
I don't remember any wrath from the Game... Give me an example oh and Grrrr... Now that's wrath.
Anyway, the X-Box should have lot's of support for games just like the PC because they are similar and a lot of game making folks respect Microsoft. Peter Molyneaux (may he live for ever in glory) himself said that he was intrigued by the X-Box.
Now, I find that the only real reason I buy consoles is to have a back up for my PC and mostly I want the same sort of games, namely wrestling and the odd one or two others (mario included). So the same sort of thing again isn't that bad. Of course the main thing is that a lot of games will be changed greatly for the Gamecube and there will definately be new ones. You assume that the games developers will all be happy to just reproduce the same thing with different levels and say "That's a new game that is", well I expect they will probably not think that and will most likely be going for something new to challenge them (which is what we all want in the end anyway, right?).
Anyway, the X-Box should have lot's of support for games just like the PC because they are similar and a lot of game making folks respect Microsoft. Peter Molyneaux (may he live for ever in glory) himself said that he was intrigued by the X-Box.
Now, I find that the only real reason I buy consoles is to have a back up for my PC and mostly I want the same sort of games, namely wrestling and the odd one or two others (mario included). So the same sort of thing again isn't that bad. Of course the main thing is that a lot of games will be changed greatly for the Gamecube and there will definately be new ones. You assume that the games developers will all be happy to just reproduce the same thing with different levels and say "That's a new game that is", well I expect they will probably not think that and will most likely be going for something new to challenge them (which is what we all want in the end anyway, right?).
Some of the later platformers have been aimed at younger gamers but that's only because of this stupid stereotyping.
Crash Bandicoot, Mario 64 and Pandamonium were all great platformers that gamers of all ages would find challenging and enjoy.
Ofcourse back then it was fashionable for games like Mortal kombat and Dukenukem to have lots of gore and blood. So people started to think that anything without violence was kiddies stuff.
Hence the designers starting to design platform games for kids.
THAT is why I really want Rare to take DK back to his Snes roots, before platforming was slated as childish and bring back the classic and challenging "jump on the heads of enemies" and throw barrels gameplay.
Crash Bandicoot, Mario 64 and Pandamonium were all great platformers that gamers of all ages would find challenging and enjoy.
Ofcourse back then it was fashionable for games like Mortal kombat and Dukenukem to have lots of gore and blood. So people started to think that anything without violence was kiddies stuff.
Hence the designers starting to design platform games for kids.
THAT is why I really want Rare to take DK back to his Snes roots, before platforming was slated as childish and bring back the classic and challenging "jump on the heads of enemies" and throw barrels gameplay.
Yeah, that beer looks really childish.
Look, it does seem to me that most of the good N64 games such as Mario and Banjo Kazooie are directed towards children. Even CBFD uses 'childish' cartoonie graphics!!
Mouldy Cheese wrote:
> Number 4 – turbonutter slated the N64 for being a kids
> machine. Who cares if the games star Italian plumbers? I bet
> turbonutter owns only a PS because its ‘cool’ and has never played
> an N64. I reckon he also pretends to smoke weed to be cool. The
> whole kiddie image the N64 has acquired has been due to people who
> don’t actually own the machine seeing screenshots and saying “ooh,
> that game stars a little green elf called Link. It can’t be good,
> theres no blood or realism.
First, I did not buy a PS because it was "cool". I only bought it because a) it was cheaper that a Saturn and b) it had a load of racing games, which I love.
AND I HAVE NEVER SAID "CHILDISH" OR "KIDDIE". I said for younger owners, IE 12-20. I agree, there are older games as well, and some quite good ones.
And, asamatteroffact, I actually swapped my PS1 for an N64 for a while. 2 months. Some games I liked, some I hate. Zelda (Ocarina) was quite good, but I'm not into puzzle/role playing games.
Lastly, the only games I own with blood and fighting are Quake and Timesplitters, and only because they got good reviews
> Number 4 – turbonutter slated the N64 for being a kids
> machine. Who cares if the games star Italian plumbers? I bet
> turbonutter owns only a PS because its ‘cool’ and has never played
> an N64. I reckon he also pretends to smoke weed to be cool. The
> whole kiddie image the N64 has acquired has been due to people who
> don’t actually own the machine seeing screenshots and saying “ooh,
> that game stars a little green elf called Link. It can’t be good,
> theres no blood or realism.
First, I did not buy a PS because it was "cool". I only bought it because a) it was cheaper that a Saturn and b) it had a load of racing games, which I love.
AND I HAVE NEVER SAID "CHILDISH" OR "KIDDIE". I said for younger owners, IE 12-20. I agree, there are older games as well, and some quite good ones.
And, asamatteroffact, I actually swapped my PS1 for an N64 for a while. 2 months. Some games I liked, some I hate. Zelda (Ocarina) was quite good, but I'm not into puzzle/role playing games.
Lastly, the only games I own with blood and fighting are Quake and Timesplitters, and only because they got good reviews
Grix Thraves wrote:
> I'm sorry, I don't want to sink to your level, so I'm not going to
> argue agaisnt you. :0)
Joke.
It's not a good idea to say that
> Nintendo have got childish games. Firstly, they are enjoyable, just
> like any other game. People who have been bought up on games...
I
> think I've just figured it out.
This is probably going to come
> across as very biased, but here goes.
Old school gamers, those
> that have been following console "wars" since the
> Commodore days, don't find Nintendo childish... while the new age
> gamers, people who bought Playstations because it was the in thing,
> and then get into gaming, do. In other words, people bought up on
> Mario and Sonic don't find it childish...
(I'm expecting The Game
> to pop in *any* moment...)
I think it's time for another poll. To
> the PS2 forum!
Wrong!
I've been following games from the amiga. I loved Sonic, and all the rest, and I still see Nintendo as young. But not childish. I never said childish.
> I'm sorry, I don't want to sink to your level, so I'm not going to
> argue agaisnt you. :0)
Joke.
It's not a good idea to say that
> Nintendo have got childish games. Firstly, they are enjoyable, just
> like any other game. People who have been bought up on games...
I
> think I've just figured it out.
This is probably going to come
> across as very biased, but here goes.
Old school gamers, those
> that have been following console "wars" since the
> Commodore days, don't find Nintendo childish... while the new age
> gamers, people who bought Playstations because it was the in thing,
> and then get into gaming, do. In other words, people bought up on
> Mario and Sonic don't find it childish...
(I'm expecting The Game
> to pop in *any* moment...)
I think it's time for another poll. To
> the PS2 forum!
Wrong!
I've been following games from the amiga. I loved Sonic, and all the rest, and I still see Nintendo as young. But not childish. I never said childish.
You see the difference Shigsy and RARE besides RARE being able to create different genre of games?
NOTHING THEY ARE BOTH QUALITY!
NOTHING THEY ARE BOTH QUALITY!
If that one-line wonder wins for my excellent topic then he's in for a beating. Pinkpig and Gronti_v amongst others have felt my wrath....Muahahaha, Muahahahaha, Bwrahahahahaha!
Just Kidding Snipe.
But seriously, Nintendo know what they're doing...they have even signed Rare to work on the Dolphin and Super Game Boy. I think the Dolphin will use CD-s like the Mega Drive. Once I ate a worm......Then I tripped and felt and hit my head.....can't you tell?!
Heh...lol. ^_^
The Game: Being influenced by Pokémon since 14/6/2000
Just Kidding Snipe.
But seriously, Nintendo know what they're doing...they have even signed Rare to work on the Dolphin and Super Game Boy. I think the Dolphin will use CD-s like the Mega Drive. Once I ate a worm......Then I tripped and felt and hit my head.....can't you tell?!
Heh...lol. ^_^
The Game: Being influenced by Pokémon since 14/6/2000
I don't get too bothered by bad spelling (I still manage to muck up my own posts quite a lot, despite training in teaching and English) or even grammar, as long as the post is readable.
It's the content that counts and yours was a good post Sniper.
It's the content that counts and yours was a good post Sniper.
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