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I hate PC world – for one reason and one reason only. The PC’s they sell are only built to last a year – or maybe 2 if you’re lucky. My and my older cousin went into PC world today to look at graphics cards. Why? Well, if the graphics card wouldn’t work then I’d be able to take it back – where as if I bought a card off the net I’d be stuck with it. Anyway, bare this in mind.
The cards were quite expensive – but I was prepared to spend around 60 – 80 pound because I had my spending pants on. Firstly they wouldn’t let me look at the actual cars in the boxes because they were sealed. Looking in the box is almost compulsory these days as none of them put minimum specs on the box. “We can’t open the box – its against our policy” idiots.
So, I found a card that I might have bought – it was a FX 5700 for 80 pound, not the best card but you need to bare in mind that this is a disposable card to last me less than a year. It said on the Box minimum power supply 250w – well that’s what I’ve got in my PC world computer- 250 bleeding watts.
I doubt a card that wants 250 watt minimum would work on my machine that only has 250 watt that feed 2 CD drives and a HDD amongst other things. They always get the last laugh, it’s their fault anyway, giving me a PC that only has 250 watts in, what goods that. No good.
Of course, I have a bit more PC knowledge now, and I could build me own – but back in the day I had non, PC world seemed like my only option. So where can I go from here?
At least we walked away with a round under our belts as me and my cousin questioned thier money grabbing ways - and PC health checks which violates some act. You should have seen there faces.
I don’t think I have the balls to fit a new PSU because I might blow my mobo, and all cards need the PSU I have in my PC as a minimum – but I need something higher than a MX to play a certain game that requires shaders. I haven’t got much money, so please, if you have any serious answers then I’d like to hear them, but don’t say “save 1000 pound and buy a good machine” because I don’t have much to spend. Ideally 60 quid would be nice.
Anybody?
The cards were quite expensive – but I was prepared to spend around 60 – 80 pound because I had my spending pants on. Firstly they wouldn’t let me look at the actual cars in the boxes because they were sealed. Looking in the box is almost compulsory these days as none of them put minimum specs on the box. “We can’t open the box – its against our policy” idiots.
So, I found a card that I might have bought – it was a FX 5700 for 80 pound, not the best card but you need to bare in mind that this is a disposable card to last me less than a year. It said on the Box minimum power supply 250w – well that’s what I’ve got in my PC world computer- 250 bleeding watts.
I doubt a card that wants 250 watt minimum would work on my machine that only has 250 watt that feed 2 CD drives and a HDD amongst other things. They always get the last laugh, it’s their fault anyway, giving me a PC that only has 250 watts in, what goods that. No good.
Of course, I have a bit more PC knowledge now, and I could build me own – but back in the day I had non, PC world seemed like my only option. So where can I go from here?
At least we walked away with a round under our belts as me and my cousin questioned thier money grabbing ways - and PC health checks which violates some act. You should have seen there faces.
I don’t think I have the balls to fit a new PSU because I might blow my mobo, and all cards need the PSU I have in my PC as a minimum – but I need something higher than a MX to play a certain game that requires shaders. I haven’t got much money, so please, if you have any serious answers then I’d like to hear them, but don’t say “save 1000 pound and buy a good machine” because I don’t have much to spend. Ideally 60 quid would be nice.
Anybody?
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Afternoon wrote:
> You tell that to people that, then your parents go and embarass you
> by going there and purchasing one.
My parents did that before I knew anything about computers, we were naive and vunerable cusomters, purchasing the "best machine available, with the best software and the most effective operating system".
Now I own my own machine up here in my room, which I built myself, and I am soon planning to build a machine for my parents downstairs, so we can rid of that crappy PC World/Packard Bell machine.
> You tell that to people that, then your parents go and embarass you
> by going there and purchasing one.
My parents did that before I knew anything about computers, we were naive and vunerable cusomters, purchasing the "best machine available, with the best software and the most effective operating system".
Now I own my own machine up here in my room, which I built myself, and I am soon planning to build a machine for my parents downstairs, so we can rid of that crappy PC World/Packard Bell machine.
Miserableman wrote:
> Also, why on earth did you want to look at the card itself?
Because I wanted to see if it had a female power socket on it. If it did then that would be a card that requires more power - would it, would it not?
Any help instead of abuse?
If it just bang a card in the requires 250w power supply, what will happen? Will it work? Will it crash when you play games? Or might it be ok?
> Also, why on earth did you want to look at the card itself?
Because I wanted to see if it had a female power socket on it. If it did then that would be a card that requires more power - would it, would it not?
Any help instead of abuse?
If it just bang a card in the requires 250w power supply, what will happen? Will it work? Will it crash when you play games? Or might it be ok?
He also replaced the motherboard.
Coin wrote:
> I had the same problem.
>
> Bought a DELL computer, but then wanted to update it.
>
> PSU is very easy to replace though - really.
>
> Just buy one... :D
I heard that DELL pull a nasty trick of reversing a couple of the pins on their PSUs/motherboard power connectors, so that buying a standard replacement PSU without a new motherboard (or vice-versa) caused a nasty burning smell and an ex-computer. This would lock you into buying replacement PSUs/motherboards from DELL, but you're saying an off-the-shelf PSU worked in your DELL?
> I had the same problem.
>
> Bought a DELL computer, but then wanted to update it.
>
> PSU is very easy to replace though - really.
>
> Just buy one... :D
I heard that DELL pull a nasty trick of reversing a couple of the pins on their PSUs/motherboard power connectors, so that buying a standard replacement PSU without a new motherboard (or vice-versa) caused a nasty burning smell and an ex-computer. This would lock you into buying replacement PSUs/motherboards from DELL, but you're saying an off-the-shelf PSU worked in your DELL?
I had the same problem.
Bought a DELL computer, but then wanted to update it.
PSU is very easy to replace though - really.
Just buy one... :D
Bought a DELL computer, but then wanted to update it.
PSU is very easy to replace though - really.
Just buy one... :D
DiscoDexy wrote:
> The cards were quite expensive – but I was prepared to spend around
> 60 – 80 pound because I had my spending pants on. Firstly they
> wouldn’t let me look at the actual cars in the boxes because they
> were sealed. Looking in the box is almost compulsory these days as
> none of them put minimum specs on the box. “We can’t open the box –
> its against our policy” idiots.
Also, why on earth did you want to look at the card itself? Graphics cards are fragile, expensive, and pointless to look at - all the relevant details can be gathered by looking at the box. The salesperson knew this and would've been an idiot to risk you breaking an expensive piece of electronic equipment for no reason whatsoever. I don't demand to view the insides of an Xbox before I buy it.
> The cards were quite expensive – but I was prepared to spend around
> 60 – 80 pound because I had my spending pants on. Firstly they
> wouldn’t let me look at the actual cars in the boxes because they
> were sealed. Looking in the box is almost compulsory these days as
> none of them put minimum specs on the box. “We can’t open the box –
> its against our policy” idiots.
Also, why on earth did you want to look at the card itself? Graphics cards are fragile, expensive, and pointless to look at - all the relevant details can be gathered by looking at the box. The salesperson knew this and would've been an idiot to risk you breaking an expensive piece of electronic equipment for no reason whatsoever. I don't demand to view the insides of an Xbox before I buy it.
You act like this is something that seperates the evil PC World from everywhere else that sells computers. Look at the PCs sold in Dixons, Comet, ASDA, www.dell.co.uk or your local MUG-U-LIKE independent computer store. They all carry generic power supplies, they all have crappy RAM, onboard soundcards, Lexmark printers and all the other guff that traditionally breaks or causes intermittent failures. And guess what? NO-ONE CARES! If I were a washing machine expert for example, I could wax lyrical all night long about how your Hotpoint has an inferior motor/dampeners/water jet system to my Zanussi, but because you (or your Mum/Dad) don't have the time or inclination to research this stuff you just go out and choose the cheapest one at Currys. Cheap, shovel-ware PC's sell, and if PC World fitted all of their E-machines and HP's with 400W Antec PSUs no-one would buy them, as they'd be priced out of the market. 19 out of 20 people buying a computer at PC World are never going to need excess power supply capacity, so they're not going to pay for it - they'd rather save their money, just like you did when you bought your PC, or when your parents bought their hypothetical Hotpoint. Additionally the 1 out of 20 that will eventually upgrade their graphics card can buy a new power supply to go with it.
gamesfreak wrote:
> Moral of story - Don't purchase anything from PC World.
> Unless you are naive.
You tell that to people that, then your parents go and embarass you by going there and purchasing one.
> Moral of story - Don't purchase anything from PC World.
> Unless you are naive.
You tell that to people that, then your parents go and embarass you by going there and purchasing one.
Nimco wrote:
> Are you looking for a PSU or a graphics card?
graphics card matey, something that will run with my powerless supply.
> Are you looking for a PSU or a graphics card?
graphics card matey, something that will run with my powerless supply.
Invest in a high quality, high powered PSU. They're easy to fit.
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