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I hate PC world – for one reason and one reason only. The PC’s they sell are only built to last a year – or maybe 2 if you’re lucky. My and my older cousin went into PC world today to look at graphics cards. Why? Well, if the graphics card wouldn’t work then I’d be able to take it back – where as if I bought a card off the net I’d be stuck with it. Anyway, bare this in mind.
The cards were quite expensive – but I was prepared to spend around 60 – 80 pound because I had my spending pants on. Firstly they wouldn’t let me look at the actual cars in the boxes because they were sealed. Looking in the box is almost compulsory these days as none of them put minimum specs on the box. “We can’t open the box – its against our policy” idiots.
So, I found a card that I might have bought – it was a FX 5700 for 80 pound, not the best card but you need to bare in mind that this is a disposable card to last me less than a year. It said on the Box minimum power supply 250w – well that’s what I’ve got in my PC world computer- 250 bleeding watts.
I doubt a card that wants 250 watt minimum would work on my machine that only has 250 watt that feed 2 CD drives and a HDD amongst other things. They always get the last laugh, it’s their fault anyway, giving me a PC that only has 250 watts in, what goods that. No good.
Of course, I have a bit more PC knowledge now, and I could build me own – but back in the day I had non, PC world seemed like my only option. So where can I go from here?
At least we walked away with a round under our belts as me and my cousin questioned thier money grabbing ways - and PC health checks which violates some act. You should have seen there faces.
I don’t think I have the balls to fit a new PSU because I might blow my mobo, and all cards need the PSU I have in my PC as a minimum – but I need something higher than a MX to play a certain game that requires shaders. I haven’t got much money, so please, if you have any serious answers then I’d like to hear them, but don’t say “save 1000 pound and buy a good machine” because I don’t have much to spend. Ideally 60 quid would be nice.
Anybody?
The cards were quite expensive – but I was prepared to spend around 60 – 80 pound because I had my spending pants on. Firstly they wouldn’t let me look at the actual cars in the boxes because they were sealed. Looking in the box is almost compulsory these days as none of them put minimum specs on the box. “We can’t open the box – its against our policy” idiots.
So, I found a card that I might have bought – it was a FX 5700 for 80 pound, not the best card but you need to bare in mind that this is a disposable card to last me less than a year. It said on the Box minimum power supply 250w – well that’s what I’ve got in my PC world computer- 250 bleeding watts.
I doubt a card that wants 250 watt minimum would work on my machine that only has 250 watt that feed 2 CD drives and a HDD amongst other things. They always get the last laugh, it’s their fault anyway, giving me a PC that only has 250 watts in, what goods that. No good.
Of course, I have a bit more PC knowledge now, and I could build me own – but back in the day I had non, PC world seemed like my only option. So where can I go from here?
At least we walked away with a round under our belts as me and my cousin questioned thier money grabbing ways - and PC health checks which violates some act. You should have seen there faces.
I don’t think I have the balls to fit a new PSU because I might blow my mobo, and all cards need the PSU I have in my PC as a minimum – but I need something higher than a MX to play a certain game that requires shaders. I haven’t got much money, so please, if you have any serious answers then I’d like to hear them, but don’t say “save 1000 pound and buy a good machine” because I don’t have much to spend. Ideally 60 quid would be nice.
Anybody?
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lcarus wrote:
> Reeallly? What are the shops called?
It's more to do with creative definition of what a top-line gaming machine is, rather than some miracle of cheap electronics hardware. An Athlon 2.4Ghz with onboard-absolutely-everything, a £5 PSU and generic RAM does not make for a top gaming PC.
> Reeallly? What are the shops called?
It's more to do with creative definition of what a top-line gaming machine is, rather than some miracle of cheap electronics hardware. An Athlon 2.4Ghz with onboard-absolutely-everything, a £5 PSU and generic RAM does not make for a top gaming PC.
Miserableman wrote:
>
> Walk around any town and count the number of PC shops selling
> £299 TOP-LINE GAMING RIG!!!!
Reeallly? What are the shops called?
>
> Walk around any town and count the number of PC shops selling
> £299 TOP-LINE GAMING RIG!!!!
Reeallly? What are the shops called?
DiG wrote:
> You clearly have never worked in a decent Local pc shop, they do use
> case supplys, but nothing under 300w and nothing thats going to
> explode. And crap RAM? Learn what the hell your going on about you
> div. These arnt bloody gaming rigs are they?
Walk around any town and count the number of PC shops selling £299 TOP-LINE GAMING RIG!!!! What do you think they fill these with, magic pixies? You're right, I've never worked in a decent independent PC shop. Furthermore, I don't believe I've ever been into a decent independent PC shop, and I've been into lots. All of them have charged the Earth and stocked rubbish. And oh-my-golly-gosh yes, RAM quality can make a difference to the stability of your computer! Even if you're not thrashing it 24/7.
> You clearly have never worked in a decent Local pc shop, they do use
> case supplys, but nothing under 300w and nothing thats going to
> explode. And crap RAM? Learn what the hell your going on about you
> div. These arnt bloody gaming rigs are they?
Walk around any town and count the number of PC shops selling £299 TOP-LINE GAMING RIG!!!! What do you think they fill these with, magic pixies? You're right, I've never worked in a decent independent PC shop. Furthermore, I don't believe I've ever been into a decent independent PC shop, and I've been into lots. All of them have charged the Earth and stocked rubbish. And oh-my-golly-gosh yes, RAM quality can make a difference to the stability of your computer! Even if you're not thrashing it 24/7.
DiG wrote:
> You clearly have never worked in a decent Local pc shop
I have :D
> You clearly have never worked in a decent Local pc shop
I have :D
> local MUG-U-LIKE independent
> computer store. They all carry generic power supplies, they all have
> crappy RAM
You clearly have never worked in a decent Local pc shop, they do use case supplys, but nothing under 300w and nothing thats going to explode. And crap RAM? Learn what the hell your going on about you div. These arnt bloody gaming rigs are they?
> computer store. They all carry generic power supplies, they all have
> crappy RAM
You clearly have never worked in a decent Local pc shop, they do use case supplys, but nothing under 300w and nothing thats going to explode. And crap RAM? Learn what the hell your going on about you div. These arnt bloody gaming rigs are they?
All a higher powered PSU does is allow more power to be drawn if required. You could stick a 10kW PSU in place of the current 250W and all it would do is let you use loads of hard-drives and stuff - e.g. just gives the PC more power.
Miserableman wrote:
> Miserableman wrote:
> The box/sales assistant will be able to tell you if the card needs an
> extra molex connector. Also, I suspect this wouldn't help you anyway,
> as something like an FX5700 would a) not require an additional power
> connector but b) could overload a 250W PSU.
>
> If I were you I'd definitely look at getting a new power supply. Did
> you have £60 to spend on a PSU, or on a gfx card/PSU combo?
Some of the boxes were as useful as a chocolate fireguard, and the staff was even worse. I had 60 pound to send on everything, but i didn’t really want to wire a new PSU if i could have helped it.
I have a fancy case here, sitting, doing nothing. I bought it in haste - but i never had enough money to complete the build. So its an empty case with a 350w power supply - so i could actually take that out of there, but I’m worried that a 350w power may overload a PC world 250w computer.
The only thing i can do is build a new pc! If I bought a new mobo and ram and card could i get away with using the Pentium 1.9 i have in this machine? Could I be cheekier and get away with using this machines XP on the new machine with the same Pentium chip?
Questions Questions, i don't think there’s any cheap way out of this.
> Miserableman wrote:
> The box/sales assistant will be able to tell you if the card needs an
> extra molex connector. Also, I suspect this wouldn't help you anyway,
> as something like an FX5700 would a) not require an additional power
> connector but b) could overload a 250W PSU.
>
> If I were you I'd definitely look at getting a new power supply. Did
> you have £60 to spend on a PSU, or on a gfx card/PSU combo?
Some of the boxes were as useful as a chocolate fireguard, and the staff was even worse. I had 60 pound to send on everything, but i didn’t really want to wire a new PSU if i could have helped it.
I have a fancy case here, sitting, doing nothing. I bought it in haste - but i never had enough money to complete the build. So its an empty case with a 350w power supply - so i could actually take that out of there, but I’m worried that a 350w power may overload a PC world 250w computer.
The only thing i can do is build a new pc! If I bought a new mobo and ram and card could i get away with using the Pentium 1.9 i have in this machine? Could I be cheekier and get away with using this machines XP on the new machine with the same Pentium chip?
Questions Questions, i don't think there’s any cheap way out of this.
Tiny, you've never had to call their technical support then as when I was working in the shop we had a steady stream of Time and Tiny customers unable to get support from them.
PC world is such a rip-off for what u get. My dad was thinkin of getting a new computer again from there, and he always wants a packard bell one (which i think r crap) I bought one from Tiny and its the best PC ive used (even though the saleperson went on and on and on about insurance cover)
DiscoDexy wrote:
> Miserableman wrote:
> Also, why on earth did you want to look at the card itself?
>
> Because I wanted to see if it had a female power socket on it. If it
> did then that would be a card that requires more power - would it,
> would it not?
>
> Any help instead of abuse?
>
> If it just bang a card in the requires 250w power supply, what will
> happen? Will it work? Will it crash when you play games? Or might it
> be ok?
The box/sales assistant will be able to tell you if the card needs an extra molex connector. Also, I suspect this wouldn't help you anyway, as something like an FX5700 would a) not require an additional power connector but b) could overload a 250W PSU.
If I were you I'd definetly look at getting a new power supply. Did you have £60 to spend on a PSU, or on a gfx card/PSU combo?
> Miserableman wrote:
> Also, why on earth did you want to look at the card itself?
>
> Because I wanted to see if it had a female power socket on it. If it
> did then that would be a card that requires more power - would it,
> would it not?
>
> Any help instead of abuse?
>
> If it just bang a card in the requires 250w power supply, what will
> happen? Will it work? Will it crash when you play games? Or might it
> be ok?
The box/sales assistant will be able to tell you if the card needs an extra molex connector. Also, I suspect this wouldn't help you anyway, as something like an FX5700 would a) not require an additional power connector but b) could overload a 250W PSU.
If I were you I'd definetly look at getting a new power supply. Did you have £60 to spend on a PSU, or on a gfx card/PSU combo?
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