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Fri 04/05/01 at 20:11
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DVD is well on the way to becoming the dominant format in home cinema, but can it ever be the only format? Many more people have access to a video player than a DVD one, hence the, still very successful, home video market.

Given some time (and it probably wont be too long) the relationship between DVD and video will be similar to that between CDs and cassettes in the music industry. Most people seem to buy their music on CD but cassettes are still very much available for those that don't have a CD player.

With the massive installed user base of video players can pre-recorded videos ever be phased out completely, forcing people to make the change to DVD?

I have always said that the DVD format was not the best choice for the next generation of films storage and I've still to be proved wrong. It was the best that was available at the time the decision was made, even though there was a far superior format just around the corner (read up on FMDs, if you're interested - assuming they have actually survived the onslaught of interest in DVD), but suppose this format was unveiled and marketed as an eventual successor for DVD - would it survive? Not a chance.

Sony's Minidiscs and Phillips (was it Phillips?) Compact Cassettes were both originally marketed at the next stage in music media and, while the first enjoyed (and still enjoys, to some extent) minor success, the latter vanished without a trace. The user base for the previous two formats was so large that people resented the idea of having three different music formats on the go at once to cater for their existing and future collection.

The same would happen if a change was attempted in the home cinema market. People have all their old films on video and buy all of there new films on DVD while, at the same time, maybe buying some of their existing catalogue on the superior format as and when they see fit (especially if it's a much better product).

DVD video is a great leap forward and deserves the success it has had. However, given comparisons to the music market, it is unlikely to become the only format for a LONG time - if ever.
Sun 06/05/01 at 18:16
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I'm going to find the article. If Smokked Kipper is correct, I suggest perhaps MolineuxGuy should be banned, for trying to make someone out to be someone that they are not.

Sun 06/05/01 at 17:40
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MolineuxGuy wrote:
> Haha, he's right, that IS taken from "Film" magazine,
> don't lie or try to deceive us, it's been copied word for word.
> Page 45. Don't deny it.

I HAVE NOT COPIED ANYTHING!!!

Do you really think I'd be so spectacularly stupid as to copy an article from a magazine that half of the people on this forum probably buy regularly?

I'll deny it endlessly because I have done nothing wrong. This is starting to become offensive.

If this article mentions EVERYTHING I have said then it is THEM who have plagiarised MY opinions. Since the early days of the Filmaday competition and my posts on this forum I have championed the superiority of FMDs over DVDs.

SR will probably have their say on Monday. If they want to deny me the win then so be it, but I'm not going to turn it down because of a couple of false accusations.
Sun 06/05/01 at 12:16
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Haha, he's right, that IS taken from "Film" magazine, don't lie or try to deceive us, it's been copied word for word. Page 45. Don't deny it.
Sun 06/05/01 at 11:33
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Darkness_2K wrote:
> I did not read the magasine, so if it turns outto be false, I am
> sorry, but if it is plagiarised, my comments stand.

I would expect your comments to stand. You have my word as a dead fish it was not plagiarised (speaking in character).

However, if after reading it myself, I think there is a coincidental similarity between the two then I will reject the prize without any fuss.

If, in the meantime, SR feel I have cheated then I'll accept their decision - as long as it is made after reading the article and not just on an accusation.
Sun 06/05/01 at 11:15
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"Sanity is for loser"
Posts: 1,647
I did not read the magasine, so if it turns outto be false, I am sorry, but if it is plagiarised, my comments stand.
Sun 06/05/01 at 11:10
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What issue number is it and what's on the cover? I'm going to have a read of this article to see how justified your accusations are.
Sun 06/05/01 at 11:09
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bagnall wrote:
> Nice article taken from this months eddition of "Film"
> magazine.

I don't read any magazines (film or otherwise) so how could I have copied it? My opinions on DVDs being not the best format to have used are long-standing (check older topics by me for proof) so I see no reason for the win not to stand.

In case you haven't noticed, this is not my first filmaday win (it's actually my fifth) and I've never been accused of copying anything before. I've shown I can write good posts that people find interesting to read so why plagiarise when I don't need to?
Sat 05/05/01 at 15:14
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"Sanity is for loser"
Posts: 1,647
I wanted this filmaday win, and you win for a copied article? That is out of order, you didn't even say where it was from - shame on you!
Sat 05/05/01 at 14:49
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Nice article taken from this months eddition of "Film" magazine.
Fri 04/05/01 at 20:11
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"Looking for freedom"
Posts: 622
DVD is well on the way to becoming the dominant format in home cinema, but can it ever be the only format? Many more people have access to a video player than a DVD one, hence the, still very successful, home video market.

Given some time (and it probably wont be too long) the relationship between DVD and video will be similar to that between CDs and cassettes in the music industry. Most people seem to buy their music on CD but cassettes are still very much available for those that don't have a CD player.

With the massive installed user base of video players can pre-recorded videos ever be phased out completely, forcing people to make the change to DVD?

I have always said that the DVD format was not the best choice for the next generation of films storage and I've still to be proved wrong. It was the best that was available at the time the decision was made, even though there was a far superior format just around the corner (read up on FMDs, if you're interested - assuming they have actually survived the onslaught of interest in DVD), but suppose this format was unveiled and marketed as an eventual successor for DVD - would it survive? Not a chance.

Sony's Minidiscs and Phillips (was it Phillips?) Compact Cassettes were both originally marketed at the next stage in music media and, while the first enjoyed (and still enjoys, to some extent) minor success, the latter vanished without a trace. The user base for the previous two formats was so large that people resented the idea of having three different music formats on the go at once to cater for their existing and future collection.

The same would happen if a change was attempted in the home cinema market. People have all their old films on video and buy all of there new films on DVD while, at the same time, maybe buying some of their existing catalogue on the superior format as and when they see fit (especially if it's a much better product).

DVD video is a great leap forward and deserves the success it has had. However, given comparisons to the music market, it is unlikely to become the only format for a LONG time - if ever.

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