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His beloved Jermaine Defoe is starting for England. Let's see if he does any better then he did against the Ukraine
Good to see Robinson starting too, the further away James is from an England goal the better. Still would prefer Carlo though :-D
Good to see Robinson starting too, the further away James is from an England goal the better. Still would prefer Carlo though :-D
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Ashman wrote:
> Colourless wrote:
> Carragher - "Versatile" played alright I thought, not as
> bad as usual.
>
> Cole - AWFUL today. He's one of our best players, and tonight her
> was
> dire.
>
> You sure you didn't get your flanks mixed up? Cole was average but
> Carragher was an absolute disgrace. Skinned...and again...and again.
Cole was shocking. He's usually genius, but tonight.... Every pass went astray, and he just couldn't cross. I've seen versatile play much worse than tonight. *cough* Highbury last season *cough*
Beckham is hopeless. I don't know what you see in him ashman.... =8 ?
> Colourless wrote:
> Carragher - "Versatile" played alright I thought, not as
> bad as usual.
>
> Cole - AWFUL today. He's one of our best players, and tonight her
> was
> dire.
>
> You sure you didn't get your flanks mixed up? Cole was average but
> Carragher was an absolute disgrace. Skinned...and again...and again.
Cole was shocking. He's usually genius, but tonight.... Every pass went astray, and he just couldn't cross. I've seen versatile play much worse than tonight. *cough* Highbury last season *cough*
Beckham is hopeless. I don't know what you see in him ashman.... =8 ?
Ashman wrote:
> Well it wasn't excellent. But it wasn't as bad as you were saying.
Me and Colour basically gave almost identical reviews of the players, (except the cole and carragher one, not sure what he was drinking there :-D) surely two people can't be wrong, obviously the team performed to such an extent two people formed the same opinion
> Well it wasn't excellent. But it wasn't as bad as you were saying.
Me and Colour basically gave almost identical reviews of the players, (except the cole and carragher one, not sure what he was drinking there :-D) surely two people can't be wrong, obviously the team performed to such an extent two people formed the same opinion
Quinty wrote:
> I'm literally shocked by this. Are you winding me up now? If it
> wasn't a great ball then why did the defender cr@p himself and put it
> past Dudek? Why didn't he hoof it away? You've clearly never played
> football in your life, the hardest ball to defend as a defender is
> one drilled into the six yard box. *Shakes head*
*sighs* do i need to say it slower? A....better.... .team....would....have... .easily....dealt.... .with....it. Understand now? Good good
> If one lapse in concentration during 90 minutes is shambolic
> defending then you should watch more football lad. Carragher was
> poor, i agree, but the defence as whole played well, not allowing the
> Poles more than a couple of half chances. Fact.
Well if it was such a 'excellent' display then surely there should be no defensive lapses yes?
> As for the excellent performance part, you say black i say white.
> Some of your comments are shocking though.
Could say the same of yours, different opinions and takes on things. It happens, obviously you're more easily appeased than me.
> I'm literally shocked by this. Are you winding me up now? If it
> wasn't a great ball then why did the defender cr@p himself and put it
> past Dudek? Why didn't he hoof it away? You've clearly never played
> football in your life, the hardest ball to defend as a defender is
> one drilled into the six yard box. *Shakes head*
*sighs* do i need to say it slower? A....better.... .team....would....have... .easily....dealt.... .with....it. Understand now? Good good
> If one lapse in concentration during 90 minutes is shambolic
> defending then you should watch more football lad. Carragher was
> poor, i agree, but the defence as whole played well, not allowing the
> Poles more than a couple of half chances. Fact.
Well if it was such a 'excellent' display then surely there should be no defensive lapses yes?
> As for the excellent performance part, you say black i say white.
> Some of your comments are shocking though.
Could say the same of yours, different opinions and takes on things. It happens, obviously you're more easily appeased than me.
lalakersrule wrote:
> Wasn't referring to you, was referring to Quinty who called it
> excellent. I for the life of me can't see how it is such
Well it wasn't excellent. But it wasn't as bad as you were saying.
It was practically the way we always play away from home in a qualifier; averagely, when we all know that when they care more the players can do better.
> Wasn't referring to you, was referring to Quinty who called it
> excellent. I for the life of me can't see how it is such
Well it wasn't excellent. But it wasn't as bad as you were saying.
It was practically the way we always play away from home in a qualifier; averagely, when we all know that when they care more the players can do better.
lalakersrule wrote:
> and the final pass wasn't exactly defence splitting, they got lucky with the poor defending, a better team would have hoofed that to safety.
I'm literally shocked by this. Are you winding me up now? If it wasn't a great ball then why did the defender cr@p himself and put it past Dudek? Why didn't he hoof it away? You've clearly never played football in your life, the hardest ball to defend as a defender is one drilled into the six yard box. *Shakes head*
> Go watch the Polish goal and find some highlights of Carragher
> tonight while you're looking around for your match stats
If one lapse in concentration during 90 minutes is shambolic defending then you should watch more football lad. Carragher was poor, i agree, but the defence as whole played well, not allowing the Poles more than a couple of half chances. Fact.
> Yes all over them, that's why it was only a one goal lead and we had
> to clear an effort off the line. My Gawd we were all over them
LOL. I've seen games where my team has drawn 0-0 and we've been all over the opposition. The scoreline doesn't always reflect the games, especially not how many chances are created!
As for the excellent performance part, you say black i say white. Some of your comments are shocking though.
> and the final pass wasn't exactly defence splitting, they got lucky with the poor defending, a better team would have hoofed that to safety.
I'm literally shocked by this. Are you winding me up now? If it wasn't a great ball then why did the defender cr@p himself and put it past Dudek? Why didn't he hoof it away? You've clearly never played football in your life, the hardest ball to defend as a defender is one drilled into the six yard box. *Shakes head*
> Go watch the Polish goal and find some highlights of Carragher
> tonight while you're looking around for your match stats
If one lapse in concentration during 90 minutes is shambolic defending then you should watch more football lad. Carragher was poor, i agree, but the defence as whole played well, not allowing the Poles more than a couple of half chances. Fact.
> Yes all over them, that's why it was only a one goal lead and we had
> to clear an effort off the line. My Gawd we were all over them
LOL. I've seen games where my team has drawn 0-0 and we've been all over the opposition. The scoreline doesn't always reflect the games, especially not how many chances are created!
As for the excellent performance part, you say black i say white. Some of your comments are shocking though.
Colourless wrote:
> Carragher - "Versatile" played alright I thought, not as
> bad as usual.
> Cole - AWFUL today. He's one of our best players, and tonight her was
> dire.
You sure you didn't get your flanks mixed up? Cole was average but Carragher was an absolute disgrace. Skinned...and again...and again.
Oh, and again.
Otherwise I can't fault your analysis in a major way, other than being a little harsh on Beckham - but that's your opinion and I'm not starting tha off again.
;^)
> Carragher - "Versatile" played alright I thought, not as
> bad as usual.
> Cole - AWFUL today. He's one of our best players, and tonight her was
> dire.
You sure you didn't get your flanks mixed up? Cole was average but Carragher was an absolute disgrace. Skinned...and again...and again.
Oh, and again.
Otherwise I can't fault your analysis in a major way, other than being a little harsh on Beckham - but that's your opinion and I'm not starting tha off again.
;^)
Ashman wrote:
> If you look back I never said it was excellent, I said it was
> satisfactory, whereas you said we were awful.
Wasn't referring to you, was referring to Quinty who called it excellent. I for the life of me can't see how it is such
> If you look back I never said it was excellent, I said it was
> satisfactory, whereas you said we were awful.
Wasn't referring to you, was referring to Quinty who called it excellent. I for the life of me can't see how it is such
lalakersrule wrote:
> Everyone mucked in, on the whole, and other than Carragher nobody
> was
> diabolical.
>
> Well then how was it an excellent display? That was the point i was
> making
If you look back I never said it was excellent, I said it was satisfactory, whereas you said we were awful.
> Everyone mucked in, on the whole, and other than Carragher nobody
> was
> diabolical.
>
> Well then how was it an excellent display? That was the point i was
> making
If you look back I never said it was excellent, I said it was satisfactory, whereas you said we were awful.
But hey let's agree to disagree, your rating of excellent = my rating of mediocre. but then this is England we're on about, should just be grateful they won
*sighs* fine lets answer your points, would have thought my rating did enough but meh, let's appease you
Quinty wrote:
> Er what? I'm talking about the build up you numpty not the finishing.
What build up? Beckham lumped it in for the first and Defoe had to do it all and the second was basic knocking it down the wing and the final pass wasn't exactly defence splitting, they got lucky with the poor defending, a better team would have hoofed that to safety.
> If the defence were such a 'shambles' then Robinson would have had
> more to do than just lump balls up the pitch now and again. Fact.
Go watch the Polish goal and find some highlights of Carragher tonight while you're looking around for your match stats
>What a joke, we were all over them! How many chances did we have >compared to them? Must be double figures! If anything it should have >been 4 or 5!! Gawd.
Yes all over them, that's why it was only a one goal lead and we had to clear an effort off the line. My Gawd we were all over them
Quinty wrote:
> Er what? I'm talking about the build up you numpty not the finishing.
What build up? Beckham lumped it in for the first and Defoe had to do it all and the second was basic knocking it down the wing and the final pass wasn't exactly defence splitting, they got lucky with the poor defending, a better team would have hoofed that to safety.
> If the defence were such a 'shambles' then Robinson would have had
> more to do than just lump balls up the pitch now and again. Fact.
Go watch the Polish goal and find some highlights of Carragher tonight while you're looking around for your match stats
>What a joke, we were all over them! How many chances did we have >compared to them? Must be double figures! If anything it should have >been 4 or 5!! Gawd.
Yes all over them, that's why it was only a one goal lead and we had to clear an effort off the line. My Gawd we were all over them
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