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Mon 16/08/04 at 20:32
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I was rewatching Aliens today and for what must be the millionth time I told myself I must get around to watching Alien3 and Resurrection. I've always held back because I love the first two movies and I've been repeatedly told that the next 2 are, for want of a better word, crap.

But I'd like to know what happens in them. So could someone tell me the plot of Alien3 and Alien:Resurrection?

Ta
Tue 17/08/04 at 11:53
"Darth Vader 3442321"
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monkey_man wrote:

> Alien Resurrection - Not that bad actually, except for the final
> alien. I believe it earned the nickname on here of 'Suckor', because
> it sucked so much.

It did have expressive eyes though.

Oh and the fourth film has Brad "THE plan" Dourif in.
Tue 17/08/04 at 11:28
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A human/alien hybrid? A dog alien? How the what the? Sounds gay.

But Alien3 has Paul McGann in? Excellent. I shall now watch it and expect Withnail to lean over a spaceship wall while McGann is facing off against an Alien and instruct him to run at it and show no fear.
Tue 17/08/04 at 11:03
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The quality of the Alien films can always be told by the special effects:

Alien - Puppet alien, pretty good

Aliens - more puppet aliens, but done really pant-shittingly well

Alien3 - CGI and super-imposition. Baaa-a-aaaad.

Alien Resurrection - Not that bad actually, except for the final alien. I believe it earned the nickname on here of 'Suckor', because it sucked so much.
Tue 17/08/04 at 10:50
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Alien 3 was David Fincher's first film and he had massive battles with the producers etc as the film was already over budget and still not fully scripted. You should get the special edition Alien 3 DVD as it has the most open and frank series of documentaries, charting the trials and tribulations of getting the film made, even to the extent of openly critising the editing, the acting (even the actors are critical of themselves) and special effects.

The film itself is interesting and you should endeavour to watch the "producers cut" which is an extended version of Fincher's original. The only problem with the extended cut is that the actors were not available/willing to provide ADR (the additional voice recording that actors do to dub the film) so many of the extended scenes have a wierd hiss eminating as the actors speak. This is more noticeable in scenes where there is new footage spliced with the old. Also the producer's cut changes the host for the Alien from a Rottwieler to an Ox, which means that the "Dog" Alien who subsequently runs riot for the rest of the film seems out of place.

However I really enjoy watching Alien 3 and think that it is a great film that people dislike because it is very dark (literaly and metaphoricaly) throghout.

Alien 4 is virtually the same in either version. It's entertaining and the extras are good, if only to hear Winona Ryder state on camera that she readily helped herself to film set props, whenever she got the chance.

However she never stole one scene that she was in from the other actors...
Mon 16/08/04 at 23:29
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I agree Alien 3 and resurrection are badness.

Except maybe that bit in 3 where the guy loses half of his skull.
Mon 16/08/04 at 23:20
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Nothing beats the slack-jawed feeling of terror you feel when you first see the Alien on the wall of the escape pod in the first movie. And the same goes for the marine attack scene in Aliens. "They're coming outta the goddamn walls, man!"
Mon 16/08/04 at 23:08
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I thought Alien 3 was terrible.
Resurrection wasn't so bad though, but nowhere near as good as the first two.
Mon 16/08/04 at 22:59
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Alien 3 is shockingly bad. It just doesn't work.

Alien = John Hurt and Harry Dean Stanton
Aliens = Michael Biehn, Bill Paxton and weasely Paul Reiser
Alien 3 = Brian Glover, Paul McGann and Charles Dance

You can see the difference. It's like a Tetley advert with xenomorphs.

The DVD is very interesting though, particularly the documentaries that show what might have been had the studio not interfered. Among the many possibilities for the story was a manmade wooden planet populated by space monks, complete with its own atmosphere. It sounds mental, but the concept art looked ace. It would have been better than what they ended up with, which was a big CGI dog with space rabies.

Alien Resurrection is cool because it's got Ron Perlman and the dwarf from Delicatessen in it. And a totally unnecessary basketball scene.
Mon 16/08/04 at 22:39
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I like Alien 3.


My mate says it's crap, but he's wrong.
Mon 16/08/04 at 22:32
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Alien3 = good.

Alien Resurrection = bad.

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