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Rather predictably this has been confirmed as the title for Star Wars Episode 3.. Sounds alot like Return of the Jedi, which was going to be Revenge of the Jedi to start off with, before Lucas decided Revenge was bad and Jedis wouldn't do it. Or something. Anyway, there you go. Still not out for about a year..
I have high hopes it will be better than Episode I/II. It better be.
I have high hopes it will be better than Episode I/II. It better be.
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Erm...I like both Phantom Menace and Clones. Sorry. I think their biggest crime is that we're not kids any more, and we were when we watched the originals. I've heard endless complaints that they just "don't have the same magic as the originals". Well, that's cos kids believe in magic. Adults don't (unless they're goths, or play D&D a little too much, or think they're Aleister Crowley).
On a side note, when last in Forbidden Planet, Mrs Light noticed the replica lightsabers in their display cases and asked;
"So are they real lightsbabers?"
Happily, no-one overheard.
On a side note, when last in Forbidden Planet, Mrs Light noticed the replica lightsabers in their display cases and asked;
"So are they real lightsbabers?"
Happily, no-one overheard.
That's pretty what went on, along with him saying "Use the Force, Puke!".
Timmargh wrote:
> Well said.
>
> Me and my dad had a light sabre fight the other day with cardboard
> tubes ... he won.
>
> :^(
I now have the mental (in both senses of the term) image of a father thrashing his wheelchair-bound son with a limp, half-broken cardboard tube, whilst making lightsabre noises...
> Well said.
>
> Me and my dad had a light sabre fight the other day with cardboard
> tubes ... he won.
>
> :^(
I now have the mental (in both senses of the term) image of a father thrashing his wheelchair-bound son with a limp, half-broken cardboard tube, whilst making lightsabre noises...
Well said.
Me and my dad had a light sabre fight the other day with cardboard tubes ... he won.
:^(
Me and my dad had a light sabre fight the other day with cardboard tubes ... he won.
:^(
Timmargh wrote:
> American Graffiti is excellent, but THX-1138 is, erm, weird.
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THX-1138 is weird and dull.
American Graffiti is excellent indeed.
But we're all forgetting the stunning "Howard The Duck"
*wince*
Lucas is good when he has assistance, but now he's too rich and powerful to need to ask, he just comes out with this turgid crap that are the new Star Wars movies.
Revenge of The Sith?
Revenge for what? They've killed Schindler-Jedi and outwitted the entire galactic federation thingy. Seems to me they've been kicking all flavours of ass since Phantom Menace. Whoops, my mistake, Darth Maul got dead in that one. What a waste of a villain.
"Should we have a rival to Darth Vader? Somebody to hiss at and make the kids scared?"
"Nah, let's have Maul killed after minimal screen time and offer nobody else to treat as the villain. Ooooh ooooh, Trade Federation Blockades!!!"
.....*chirruping crickets...in the distance a coyote howls*....
> American Graffiti is excellent, but THX-1138 is, erm, weird.
--------------
THX-1138 is weird and dull.
American Graffiti is excellent indeed.
But we're all forgetting the stunning "Howard The Duck"
*wince*
Lucas is good when he has assistance, but now he's too rich and powerful to need to ask, he just comes out with this turgid crap that are the new Star Wars movies.
Revenge of The Sith?
Revenge for what? They've killed Schindler-Jedi and outwitted the entire galactic federation thingy. Seems to me they've been kicking all flavours of ass since Phantom Menace. Whoops, my mistake, Darth Maul got dead in that one. What a waste of a villain.
"Should we have a rival to Darth Vader? Somebody to hiss at and make the kids scared?"
"Nah, let's have Maul killed after minimal screen time and offer nobody else to treat as the villain. Ooooh ooooh, Trade Federation Blockades!!!"
.....*chirruping crickets...in the distance a coyote howls*....
Lucas didn't even write Star Wars by himself.
Go read "Easy Riders & Raging Bulls" about the new-cinema of the 1970s with directors like Coppola, Lucas, Spielberg etc.
Lucas wrote the original draft of Star Wars by himself, but it made no sense and had huge holes in the plot.
Easy Riders highlights just how much help Lucas got with the story, after a year of solo writing, he basically had nonsense that:
"The first sentence informed the reader that this was the story of'Mace Windu, a revered Jedi-bendu of Opachi who was related to Usby C.J Thape, padawaan learner of the famed Jedi.
First there were too many characters, then too few. They combined then divided again. Princess Leia's role grew bigger then smaller. Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader, initially one character, became two. The Force got a good side (Ashla) and a bad side (Bogan). Annikin Starkiller became Luke Skywalker. Kenobi began life as a general, then became a hermit, then a general again. A Kiber Crysal appeared then disappeared"
He begged his friends Willard Huyck and Gloria Katz to do secret re-writes for him, and they knocked his script into shape.
He directed but when he showed his mates, Brian De Palma tore into him, telling him what was crap and what worked so he recut and re-edited until it was more sensible.
And after the success of Star Wars, he demanded unprecedented levels of profit and percentage from Fox to ensure financial independance so make Empire & Jedi with his own money and power.
But he got Lawrence Kasden to rewrite Empire & Jedi.
If you look at the first three movies, Lucas directed the 1st one after advice from De Palma. He didn't write any of them himself, had help.
And gets total financial independance. He's surrounded himself with yes-men that tell him he's fantastic and doesn't ask for help any more.
Which is why the new movies are awful.
I love Star Wars, but these new films are bloody terrible.
Midichlorians? Hello? Where did that storyline go?
Trade Federation? Eh?
It's too cutesy for adults - no Han Solo type, no cynicism, no wit, no sparkle in the dialogue. Come on, look at the scripts he's had help with:
"Aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?"
"What a wonderful smell you've discovered"
"Let the Wookie win"
"I love you" "I know"
And then look at Phantom & Attack of The Clones.
"Mesa so happy to see you Annie!"
Too boring and safe for adults, and too dull for kids.
Little kids don't care about trade blockades and political plots and senate discussions. They want landspeeders and Jawas and Wookies and droids and X-Wings, Millenium Falcons, Darth Vader, Stormtroopers, The Death Star.
There's no comparision between old and new films.
The Speederbike chase in Jedi was 100 times more exciting than the pod-race in Phantom.
The Phantom Menace?
The Phantom bloody Star Wars movies.
Go read "Easy Riders & Raging Bulls" about the new-cinema of the 1970s with directors like Coppola, Lucas, Spielberg etc.
Lucas wrote the original draft of Star Wars by himself, but it made no sense and had huge holes in the plot.
Easy Riders highlights just how much help Lucas got with the story, after a year of solo writing, he basically had nonsense that:
"The first sentence informed the reader that this was the story of'Mace Windu, a revered Jedi-bendu of Opachi who was related to Usby C.J Thape, padawaan learner of the famed Jedi.
First there were too many characters, then too few. They combined then divided again. Princess Leia's role grew bigger then smaller. Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader, initially one character, became two. The Force got a good side (Ashla) and a bad side (Bogan). Annikin Starkiller became Luke Skywalker. Kenobi began life as a general, then became a hermit, then a general again. A Kiber Crysal appeared then disappeared"
He begged his friends Willard Huyck and Gloria Katz to do secret re-writes for him, and they knocked his script into shape.
He directed but when he showed his mates, Brian De Palma tore into him, telling him what was crap and what worked so he recut and re-edited until it was more sensible.
And after the success of Star Wars, he demanded unprecedented levels of profit and percentage from Fox to ensure financial independance so make Empire & Jedi with his own money and power.
But he got Lawrence Kasden to rewrite Empire & Jedi.
If you look at the first three movies, Lucas directed the 1st one after advice from De Palma. He didn't write any of them himself, had help.
And gets total financial independance. He's surrounded himself with yes-men that tell him he's fantastic and doesn't ask for help any more.
Which is why the new movies are awful.
I love Star Wars, but these new films are bloody terrible.
Midichlorians? Hello? Where did that storyline go?
Trade Federation? Eh?
It's too cutesy for adults - no Han Solo type, no cynicism, no wit, no sparkle in the dialogue. Come on, look at the scripts he's had help with:
"Aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?"
"What a wonderful smell you've discovered"
"Let the Wookie win"
"I love you" "I know"
And then look at Phantom & Attack of The Clones.
"Mesa so happy to see you Annie!"
Too boring and safe for adults, and too dull for kids.
Little kids don't care about trade blockades and political plots and senate discussions. They want landspeeders and Jawas and Wookies and droids and X-Wings, Millenium Falcons, Darth Vader, Stormtroopers, The Death Star.
There's no comparision between old and new films.
The Speederbike chase in Jedi was 100 times more exciting than the pod-race in Phantom.
The Phantom Menace?
The Phantom bloody Star Wars movies.
monkey_man wrote:
> "Get the nice man his helmet, Barry"
> "I can't Paul, he's choking me with his mind"
The Funniest Thing I've Read TodayTM.
> "Get the nice man his helmet, Barry"
> "I can't Paul, he's choking me with his mind"
The Funniest Thing I've Read TodayTM.
Mr Snuggly wrote:
> ... THX-1138 and American Grafitti are supposedly quite good ...
American Graffiti is excellent, but THX-1138 is, erm, weird.
> ... THX-1138 and American Grafitti are supposedly quite good ...
American Graffiti is excellent, but THX-1138 is, erm, weird.
monkey_man wrote:
> "Get the nice man his helmet, Barry"
> "I can't Paul, he's choking me with his mind"
Heh, i actually LOL'd.
> "Get the nice man his helmet, Barry"
> "I can't Paul, he's choking me with his mind"
Heh, i actually LOL'd.
MoJoJoJo wrote:
> He made a lot of good films as a producer after Star Wars (Indiana
> Jones, Willow) but what did he actually direct himself after A New
> Hope?
Um... Episode I? Okay, scratch that, but THX-1138 and American Grafitti are supposedly quite good. And the original Star Wars was a bit special. All this time, I never actually knew who directed Return of the Jedi, some guy named Richard Marquand. And Irvin Kershner directed a Bond movie and then kind of disappeared.
> He made a lot of good films as a producer after Star Wars (Indiana
> Jones, Willow) but what did he actually direct himself after A New
> Hope?
Um... Episode I? Okay, scratch that, but THX-1138 and American Grafitti are supposedly quite good. And the original Star Wars was a bit special. All this time, I never actually knew who directed Return of the Jedi, some guy named Richard Marquand. And Irvin Kershner directed a Bond movie and then kind of disappeared.
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